EU2 vs. HOI

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What does everyone think about hoi if you compare it to eu2 ?
personally i think hoi has a lot of potential, but it needs some improvement, so im still playing eu2 till hoi gets patched better

 

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HoI has alot of potential, certainly, but imagining it was at the same level as EU2 is right now... hmmm, its a close one to call. They really are different games. I love EU2 for its diplomacy -alliances moving back and forth - and huge timeline. However, HoI clearly has a more detailed combat system and it is WW2 (I love the Napoleonic period too though, so EU2 gets a vote there). I am somewhat concerned as to how HoI will work in multiplayer though. EU2 is fine, but the huge number of things you have to do in HoI, gives me the impression that MP will be virtually impossible to play.

 

[C.N.]

It is more in quality with EU1. I guess that we have to wait for HoI2 to get a game with the same quality as EU2.

 

[Razgovory]

When EU2 was released it was buggy as all hell. I did not really find it playable untill 1.3.

 

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I think EU2 is better than HoI. HoI=EU1 and HoI<EU2.
Yet, it's a very good game like EU1 is, but not like EU2.
Maybe HoI2=EU2

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[Owl]

I'm enjoying it, but I'm still at the "baffled" stage with HOI. We're still a bit short of guidance despite the huge efforts of the FAQ team.

I bought EU2 early, on import, as well, but other countries had had it for several weeks and there was a lot of good stuff on the forum by the time I started. Plus of course I'd been playing EU1...

One of the problems with HOI is that it feels like EU2 but isn't - so it's a bit like the first time you try to drive on the right hand side of the road

 

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Originally posted by Razgovory
When EU2 was released it was buggy as all hell. I did not really find it playable untill 1.3.

This is the same impression I have about HOI. It is much like EU II was a year ago and EU II got better with each patch (o.k. there was one that didn't help). I hope that with more patches and me learning the mechanics of the game better the game will be more enjoyable for me. However (you knew that was coming), the amount of micromanaging is quite high (if you play a major country). Perhaps I have been playing it on too fast a speed?

 

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How is the AI in HOI vs. EUII

I have EUII and enjoy that game immensely. The AI on normal usually give me a pretty good challenge. Depending on which country I play, it gives me a very good game. I don't know how to exploit the computer, nor do I care to find out things that will always guarantee my victory. Anyway, is HOI easier than EUII or is the AI on the same level? I am getting scared that HOI is WAYYYY too easy. Please respond if you have both games and can make an AI comparison. Thanks.

 

[Jon Shafer]

The reason HOI seems easier is because it's more like one of the later campaigns in EU2, where the AI doesn't build enough units, and you have some kind of unit that can destroy the morale of the enemy before even going into combat.

That having been said, I think HOI has a lot of potential hidden within it. Right now I hold HOI and EU2 about even, especially after a HOI MP spree yesterday for about 8 hours... I was Germany, and boy did the sparks fly against a human USSR (you just have to jump up and down when you manage to encircle and destroy that 20 division army... ). I think the MP fun factor for HOI is a lot greater than for EU2, but that's just my opinion. The ability to have so many things you can do in combat is just too fun. It does become a bit hard to manage (that CCB just becomes a bother in MP), and you can't exactly plan out your offensives hour by hour...

That having been said, the back and forth offensives, followed by the lull where no one does anything, trying to gain a strategic advantage, then you see the forces on both sides moving, trying to counter each other...

 

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Although HoI is a good game, EU2 wins out in the end since there's far less micromanaging to do. Playing a major in HoI is so much work, that I find it hard to do play more than 1 or 2 game years at a time w/o stopping for a break for awhile.

 

[Lord Hammer]

So which one is more complicated? E2 or HOI? I found the micromanagement in E2 when first playing it too much to bear. I have managed to hang in there with HOI for almost a week without throwing my hands up and saying...now what? Now i do have thourough knowledge of WW2 and have played every board and pc game out there so maybe that helps.

 

[BiB]

Re: How is the AI in HOI vs. EUII

Originally posted by fist of rage
I have EUII and enjoy that game immensely. The AI on normal usually give me a pretty good challenge. Depending on which country I play, it gives me a very good game. I don't know how to exploit the computer, nor do I care to find out things that will always guarantee my victory. Anyway, is HOI easier than EUII or is the AI on the same level? I am getting scared that HOI is WAYYYY too easy. Please respond if you have both games and can make an AI comparison. Thanks.

If u get a challenge from normal in EU, u will get one in HOI.

 

[BiB]

Originally posted by Camerus
Although HoI is a good game, EU2 wins out in the end since there's far less micromanaging to do. Playing a major in HoI is so much work, that I find it hard to do play more than 1 or 2 game years at a time w/o stopping for a break for awhile.

1 year in HOI corresponds to various decades in EU2, I tend to not play that long either, u know