Anything which makes it harder for OE to convert hungary is good, IMO.
I wholly support removing slavonic from OE.
I wholly support removing slavonic from OE.
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Slavonic is already removed from OE in PE's 1520 setup.
I just doubt I'll ever get to siege Vienna without some advantage on the balkans.
I just doubt I'll ever get to siege Vienna without some advantage on the balkans.
Oh, and the reason why I think both OE and Austria should have slavonic and magyar, for the sole reason that I think they should really WANT to fight for Hungary and the Balcans. If *I* as OE had neither slavonic nor magyar culture, I would leave Europe as is and go deep into the arab cultured world instead...
And really, with a human Persia - do we need to weaken OE further? I'm asking, I have no experience with a human Persia... Dukie?
But yes, the conversion spree is problematic.. although historically, OE did convert a large part of the slavonic balcans. And why should it be easier for them to convert greeks - which they did not do historically? Something here just doesn't make sense to me...
And really, with a human Persia - do we need to weaken OE further? I'm asking, I have no experience with a human Persia... Dukie?
But yes, the conversion spree is problematic.. although historically, OE did convert a large part of the slavonic balcans. And why should it be easier for them to convert greeks - which they did not do historically? Something here just doesn't make sense to me...
If it makes sense for gamebalance, Slavonic should be restored. Maybe greek can be lost in return.
I personally feel that it makes sense for gamebalance, but I wish more people would comment things in this thread... I mean, I don't want to decide it all!
Originally posted by Flatus
Does this mean i am russia now?
Since you did not like Venice, and would prefer Russia, I have decided to take Venice instead - and you can therefore have Russia. I was Venice in Unleashed 1 too... but I really like them, So it's not that bad for me.
Originally posted by Hive
I personally feel that it makes sense for gamebalance, but I wish more people would comment things in this thread... I mean, I don't want to decide it all!
Well, about the OE cultures, I am not sure. They already got a lot of cultures, but since it seems needed for balance, well slavonic could make sense.
From the point of view of Persia, what cultures get the OE are not importante. We will fight those evil sunnies nevertheless
That would be like jumping from a lake of sharks that are so small they cant do much more than bite your toes, into a land of molten lava and quicksand and the moment you take a breath, you will be absorbed by the flames and burned to oblivion in a millisecond.
Meh, you oldies are all for simplifyingOriginally posted by Slargos
So you're saying greek is more important than slavic, then?
.What i mean is that you are suggesting to remove the culture of the absolute core provinces of the OE, in order to give her some that are not so important for her. Theres been a great and interesting trend to cut down OE to size, mostly trying to halt her conversion effort. If her conversion effort is halted though, shouldnt Austrias be too? I mean, those Hungarian and Czech provinces which were so hard to control and were one of the factors for the 30YW!, are just being converted with the blink of an eye. Thats something for the Austrias-too-powerful gang (a gang that isnt too big, im not even in it
).So all in all. Of course, greek provinces always become converted, areas that were always orthodox, but so are other important areas in Europe too, like Bohemia, Hungary, Southern France, Lithuania etc. etc....
Were I a smartass, I would remark that Southern France was never orthodox.. but eh.. I'll let that one slip.
Were it up to me alone, I would be all for giving Slavonic back to OE.
Let's vote. Who's up for making it up to me alone? It will make decisions go a lot smoother around here.
*whacks his ridingboots with his whip and marches off*
Originally posted by Slargos
Were I a smartass, I would remark that Southern France was never orthodox.. but eh.. I'll let that one slip.
Let's vote. Who's up for making it up to me alone? It will make decisions go a lot smoother around here.
*whacks his ridingboots with his whip and marches off*
Well, I vote for all the power to Slargos
We will start in two days, and voting for every decision will be long. We can trust Slargos to make sensible decisions, I am right? *hoping that Persia will receive a lot of cores and cultures
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I support giving OE back Slavonic culture, even though it would benefit me to be the only nation with taht culture...
But I also think Austria should have it, really... but I guess it's fair enough that they don't, since OE don't have magyar... I'm not extremely happy giving all power to Slargos though, as he is too weak to handle it - he will get corrupted by the power!
But I also think Austria should have it, really... but I guess it's fair enough that they don't, since OE don't have magyar... I'm not extremely happy giving all power to Slargos though, as he is too weak to handle it - he will get corrupted by the power!
to get ganja drive up all the way to catholic vienna i strongly support the "give-back-slavonic-culture-to-oe" campaign. otherwise he might really just let the balkans be with it´s many religions.
and with all my national genes: hail thee, slargos! may you lead our way through dark times and rid us of confusing and uneffective democracy, which takes too long and may lead to nothing but unforseen conclusions and confusion.
and with all my national genes: hail thee, slargos! may you lead our way through dark times and rid us of confusing and uneffective democracy, which takes too long and may lead to nothing but unforseen conclusions and confusion.
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Originally posted by arcorelli
*hoping that Persia will receive a lot of cores and cultures
Uhm... they kinda already have...
I bow before the master. Hail the King Slargos I
(in other words, yes. all power to him)
(in other words, yes. all power to him)
