Estimated Effectiveness in trading???

[unmerged(111475)]

First post here but I've read alot of the threads and its been a huge help...

I was wondering the reasons for (and if anything can be done to correct it) the extremely low effectiveness of trades with my allies...Im playing the armag. scenario as USNA and some of my trades come through as low was 5% with Bourbon for example...Is this because of full scale world war or what? Is there anything I can do about it? Thanks for the help...

 

[Red Jacket]

Welcome to the forums, friend.

Generally your trade efficiency will be low if you don't have an effective supply connection to the countries you trade with. For example, if Switzerland were surrounded by Axis territory, its trade efficiency with any Allied nation would be zero. Trades across ocean often depend on enemy naval presence, etc. So my guess is that is what is going on. But I must admit I've never bothered to play the armag. scenario.

Since you are asking about DD-Armageddon, consider posting in that forum as an alternative to this one. You will get more responses there, because more people frequent it compared to this one. Also this forum tends to be more specific to questions related to the original HOI2. Not a problem to post here though, just thought you might want to know about the different sub forums that are available.

 

[unmerged(111475)]

thanx for the heads up...I looked for an armag forum but just saw the doomsday one...Im pretty new here, is it on a diff site or something? (the armag forum)...thanx for the help...

 

[kryhavoc]

What kind of trading are you trying to do? The two most common trades I perform is blueprint trading and resource trading.

If what you are requesting from your trading partner is considered more valuable, you may have to "pay" more for it.

Example: You want to research Basic Medium Tank and you see that Bourbon already has it and ask for the blueprints. After you select it, you see the effectiveness rating is at 23%. You can raise that percent to 100 by offering something back until Bourbon feels it is justly compensated for all the hard research they did on their own and you can take a few shortcuts with the blueprint.

Looking at your resources you see that you have an abundance of supplies and oil. Selecting Resources on your trade negotiation screen you move your slider over a little bit on both supplies and oil and the trade effectiveness increases until your reach 100% (or less if you feel lucky with the odds).

 

[sbr]

The Doomsday forum is for Armageddon as well.

You trade effectiveness is based n your enemies navy, and their ability to disrupt your trade convoys(this is all asbtracted for the most part, the mere existence of an enemy Navy is enough).

 

[unmerged(110255)]

After you select it, you see the effectiveness rating is at 23%. You can raise that percent to 100 by offering something back until Bourbon feels it is justly compensated for all the hard research they did on their own and you can take a few shortcuts with the blueprint.

That's not effectiveness, that's chance of success. What the OP is asking is about how much of the resources you are trading gets lost due to enemy aircraft or ships disrupting your trade at sea.

 

[unmerged(81060)]

As I understand It is in connection to your access to the country you deal with. If you dont have a Land connection, or the country in between you and them is hostile then you get difficulties as you have to use sea, (longer land routes maybe)

 

[unmerged(110255)]

As I understand It is in connection to your access to the country you deal with. If you dont have a Land connection, or the country in between you and them is hostile then you get difficulties as you have to use sea, (longer land routes maybe)

Yeah, and on sea there's the added problem of hostile navies disrupting your trade. And this doesn't mean that you'll have a decreased trade capacity. A 5% efficiency means that when you send your partner 100 metal for 150 energy, the two of you only receive 5 and 7,5 of each resource, respectively. The rest ends up on the bottom of the sea, as the transports are being sunk by the enemy.


And don't get mad at me for explaining the obvious, as this can be misunderstood, especially when one doesn't take the term "efficiency" literally.

 

[kryhavoc]

That's not effectiveness, that's chance of success. What the OP is asking is about how much of the resources you are trading gets lost due to enemy aircraft or ships disrupting your trade at sea.

D'OH!

Misunderstood OP, my bad!