Estates interface broken?

[ep1c_fail]

I recently downloaded an ironman compatible mod which expands the estate privileges interface. It enables me to pick more privileges than the base game, which only allows 4. Did Paradox intend for us to only be allowed to use 4 estate privileges or is the interface just broken?

 

[Guibou]

you can have more than 4 in the normal game... you just cant see them. If you already got 4 you cant add more, but let say you are at 3, as long as you dont close the privileges window you can add more.

 

[ep1c_fail]

So it's an interface bug then?

 

[deathbypie]

I think it is likely that the intention was 4 privileges max. Mostly because it would have been extremely easy to add more slots if they intended it, and they would have noticed immediately that there are only 4 boxes.

Being able to pick extras by keeping the window open seems to be the bug - so a bit more than just a ui bug.

 

[EarlKonrad]

So it's an interface bug then?

That's what I want to know as well. It certainly looks like a bug.

 

[LukasYork]

On the other hand there are some events that enable privileges (like the one that fires when you're at 0 crownland), so it can't be hard capped at 4. Otherwise you could prevent getting the privilege while still getting 30% crownland for free if you had 4 nobility privileges already (yeah, I tried to be smart, it was painful to first revoke another privilege to even be able to remove that one)

 

[Groogy]

I recently downloaded an ironman compatible mod which expands the estate privileges interface. It enables me to pick more privileges than the base game, which only allows 4. Did Paradox intend for us to only be allowed to use 4 estate privileges or is the interface just broken?

The interface is as intended but it is the logic to block you which is broken, it was only intended for you to be able to do 4 privileges.

 

[grotaclas]

The interface is as intended but it is the logic to block you which is broken, it was only intended for you to be able to do 4 privileges.

What about privileges that you get from events(e.g. Estates Statutory Rights)? Are the events not supposed to happen when you already have 4 privileges? Or can you change the GUI so that these additional privileges are visible and can be revoked without revoking other privileges first?

 

[Groogy]

What about privileges that you get from events(e.g. Estates Statutory Rights)? Are the events not supposed to happen when you already have 4 privileges? Or can you change the GUI so that these additional privileges are visible and can be revoked without revoking other privileges first?

I'm not putting an automatic block on events in case some modder have some crazy idea there. But the events will have to be limited as well yes.

 

[AFKaiser]

I'm not putting an automatic block on events in case some modder have some crazy idea there. But the events will have to be limited as well yes.

So what can happen if certain privileges are intended to be granted always? For example Pacta Conventa (Poland) or the Great Privilege (Burgundy)

 

[LukasYork]

What is the reasoning behind hard capping privileges at 4? wouldn't estate influence and following disaster, and reduced absolutism be enough of a cap?

 

[Groogy]

So what can happen if certain privileges are intended to be granted always? For example Pacta Conventa (Poland) or the Great Privilege (Burgundy)

They will simply not happen

What is the reasoning behind hard capping privileges at 4? wouldn't estate influence and following disaster, and reduced absolutism be enough of a cap?

Balance and making you have to weigh things against each other and make a choice, if you want more than four you can always mod the game.

 

[newtlord]

They will simply not happen

That seems like a much greater potential exploit than getting five or more privileges- some of those auto-assigned privileges are (intentionally) pretty crippling, and assigning four privileges before getting the event is trivial.

EDIT: Also, isn't the Burgundy event chain broken enough without another way to trip it up?

 

[LukasYork]

Especially that most players won't have any idea that they should keep the slot open in case an event with privileges could happen...

 

[ep1c_fail]

The interface is as intended but it is the logic to block you which is broken, it was only intended for you to be able to do 4 privileges.

Thank you for this reply. As others have mentioned, it will be interesting to see how event spawned privileges interact with this cap.

 

[Ivoalex]

The interface is as intended but it is the logic to block you which is broken, it was only intended for you to be able to do 4 privileges.

When this problem will be fixed?

 

[Tavald]

When this problem will be fixed?

Acording to the developers on other threads:
There is a beta version being tested.
Most of them are quite busy with other stuff, mainly a new office and vacances.