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Has anyone determined if Estates will be able to be granted provinces in territories?
 
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I would imagine not.

I asked if anyone knew and not what anyone thought, friend. :oops:

That said, I think it would be a very poor choice to not allow estates at least in territories adjacent to states.
 
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I asked if anyone knew and not what anyone thought, friend. :oops:

That said, I think it would be a very poor choice to not allow estates at least in territories adjacent to states.

but hes rights its 99% clear ... its not possible in oversee and territories are like oversee so why should it be possible ...
his guess is as good as a proof cause its clear
 

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Johan could you please release the states/territories map of the world. We armchair generals like to plan our empires on paper too :)

please please please
Look at the regions map. That's it.
 

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but hes rights its 99% clear ... its not possible in oversee and territories are like oversee so why should it be possible ...
his guess is as good as a proof cause its clear

Holy circular reasoning batman.
 
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But will the estates include teritories in calculation of the developement or only states? If they calculate developement in both teritories and states and we can only put them in states.. Well, it wouldn't be nice.
 
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Why? That would be an excellent integration of mechanics.

Territories are probably replacing what now function as overseas cores. The intention of blocking estates there is likely to prevent cheap coring --> bypassing LA floor by handing it to estates to still milk a ton of value out of it.

But will the estates include teritories in calculation of the developement or only states? If they calculate developement in both teritories and states and we can only put them in states.. Well, it wouldn't be nice.

Agreed, it would be inane if they want land you can't give them, hopefully it doesn't go that route and territory is functionally similar to what we have with overseas provinces right now, rather than an arbitrary gate that further screws over nations like Dahomey randomly :p.
 
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Territories are probably replacing what now function as overseas cores. The intention of blocking estates there is likely to prevent cheap coring --> bypassing LA floor by handing it to estates to still milk a ton of value out of it.

I think that is precisely what would be great for estates. At least letting burghers have territory in... territories, that would be great.
 

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It makes sense in some ways, but it damages the supposed tradeoff between the province types.

Not so much.

I was thinking it could be limited to territory adjacent to states.
 

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Not so much.

I was thinking it could be limited to territory adjacent to states.

In which case it would always be better to have states that border multiple territories, that way you can assign estates to multiple territories without issue instead of just having a fixed number of states that increases with tech/ideas etc.
 

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In which case it would always be better to have states that border multiple territories, that way you can assign estates to multiple territories without issue instead of just having a fixed number of states that increases with tech/ideas etc.

Well, assigning too many provinces to estates would raise their influence too high.

The limitation is already built into it.