Guys, who's MHSA? So I can apply for an advisary function for Heritage or even can propose a Commision to explore Archaeological and cultural needs and idea's for better management of them?
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Archeolooginspe, you can be the advisor for EUtopian Heritage and History, if you want. 
I'll make the first priority of the MHSA same sex rights, I think. Unless anyone wants to go down a different path?
I'll make the first priority of the MHSA same sex rights, I think. Unless anyone wants to go down a different path?
I would like to ask the ESRP what their position is on the building of a federal prison in New Lancaster??
The Moderate Party has conducted a feasability study, and concluded that the projext would create 450 new jobs over a period of three years during construction, as well as create 500 permanent jobs after construction has been completed. The cost of the prison will be deferred by grants and bonds, so that the cost will not be 100% out of the taxpayers pocket. I think that this project is one that is favorable to both of our parties, and I believe that our combined votes can get this approved by parliament.
Thank You,
D. Yuber Harding
Moderate Party
The Moderate Party has conducted a feasability study, and concluded that the projext would create 450 new jobs over a period of three years during construction, as well as create 500 permanent jobs after construction has been completed. The cost of the prison will be deferred by grants and bonds, so that the cost will not be 100% out of the taxpayers pocket. I think that this project is one that is favorable to both of our parties, and I believe that our combined votes can get this approved by parliament.
Thank You,
D. Yuber Harding
Moderate Party
Frankly, if there is need for a new prison; then I can't see any objection to this.
I don't think is necessary to put it in the parliament!! if you want to talk about it, go to the MHA ( me )
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Originally posted by Melanchthon
Agreed. The Eutopian Pensions Plan (EPP), financed through mandatory payments by employers/employees, plus a state-financed Supplementary Pensions Programme (SPP) for those whose income from the EPP is too low should suffice. Of course, people would be free to sign up for additional old age insurance with Omnicare.
Just wanted to drop a note of appreciation for all of the discussion on these programs and on the Langley bill.
Though it can no longer conduct any business without a chairman, the old MHSA Commission on Worker Benefits, which was funded to exist past the last administration, would be a great place to discuss some of these programs.
Not everyone drops by the ESRP communication office
but these are important programs and something more Eutopians should know about. (OOC: It might be nice to centralize open debate (not internal debate over party positions) in one place).
You're right. It was initially discussed here as an RD/ESRP coalition issue. Since we are in agreement politically, moving it to the Commission thread would be a good idea.
ESRP-comrades:
these are the RD's legislative priorities for this term (in no particular order, except for the first one).
- welfare reform
- environmental reform
- workers' rights
- same sex rights
- minority rights
- abolition of death penalty
The RD would also like to pass a bill concerning the preservation of and access to Eutopia's national heritage sites.
I hope this list is compatible with the ESRP's own priorities, so we can decide on a legislative agenda as quickly as possible. Given the timeframe involved, I'd suggest to focus on three or four major projects, and deal with the rest if and when we have the time.
these are the RD's legislative priorities for this term (in no particular order, except for the first one).
- welfare reform
- environmental reform
- workers' rights
- same sex rights
- minority rights
- abolition of death penalty
The RD would also like to pass a bill concerning the preservation of and access to Eutopia's national heritage sites.
I hope this list is compatible with the ESRP's own priorities, so we can decide on a legislative agenda as quickly as possible. Given the timeframe involved, I'd suggest to focus on three or four major projects, and deal with the rest if and when we have the time.
Mel,
Speaking for the rest of the ESRP; I support your priorities and the issues you mentioned. Let's move on as soon as we can on these before other parties usurp our agenda
Speaking for the rest of the ESRP; I support your priorities and the issues you mentioned. Let's move on as soon as we can on these before other parties usurp our agenda
Sounds good.Originally posted by Josephus I
Mel,
Speaking for the rest of the ESRP; I support your priorities and the issues you mentioned. Let's move on as soon as we can on these before other parties usurp our agenda
As to the process, I'd suggest to go about it in the following order:(1) IIRC, the national heritage sites bill was originally Archeolooginspee's idea, so maybe he could put together a draft bill that we can discuss here and then propose in Parliament. As SE pointed out elsewhere, a bill of that nature would be relatively non-controversial, so we should be able to find a parliamentary consensus on it.
(2) Abolition of the death penalty. I have it at #2 since it doesn't require a whole lot of preparation. A very simple, short bill will do; basically, we only need two sentences: "The death penalty is hereby abolished. It shall be replaced in all instances by imprisonment for XYZ years/life" (we'll have to discuss the duration).
(3) Same sex rights: This will be a very controversial issue; nonetheless, I think we could keep the bill itself very simple, along the lines of "1. For purposes of Eutopian law, all references to the concept of marriage shall be replaced by references to registered domestic partnerships. 2. Any two adults may register a domestic partnership with the state; all such partnerships shall carry equal rights, benefits, duties and obligations." This leaves the door open for non-sexual partnerships as well.
(4) Environmental reform: This issue will likely need some study, so I'd suggest that the President establish a Commission for Environmental Reform whose task it will be to propose a comprehensive set of environmental laws (including penalties).
(5) Welfare reform (and workers rights): This is our top priority. I have it at #5 on the agenda because this is a complex issue that will likely need a good deal of study before we can move on it in Parliament. For starters, I'd suggest that the MHSA establish a Commission on Welfare Reform (to replace the old Commission on Social Welfare Benefits and Workers Rights). Its task will be to produce a comprehensive set of laws in this area.
As the term ends in mid-April, time is of the essence - so I would suggest that the Commissions alluded to in (4) and (5) be struck immediately, and that they be relatively small (CER: President, government rep, opposition rep; CWR: MHSA, government rep., opposition rep, labour rep, business rep) in order to facilitate quick decision-making. Needless to say, both Commissions would be able to hold public hearings, to invite expert statements etc., so their size wouldn't be detrimental to expertise or input.
Silent Eagle had asked me for a worked out version of the National Anitiquities bill, I've send it hem (occ: pm'ed hem) and gave him some names for co-supporters.
Would "Any two adults" not cover Incest?
Morality isn't even a roadblock to you guys anymore.
I would invite all members of parliament to comment on my proposal firmly based on Dr. De Vlaminck's bill on archaeological research. I have added a few small things of my own hand, and changed the wording here and there for clarity, but nothing drastic. Dr. De Vlaminck, I have asked the speaker Mr. Lundgren to extend an invitation to you to comment on your bill, if there is a need for your clarifications.
With friendly regards,
Sebastian Fitzpatrick
Rally for Democracy
With friendly regards,
Sebastian Fitzpatrick
Rally for Democracy
Only if you assume sex to be the basis of state recognition for marriages/ domestic partnerships (DmPs). To my mind, as far as the state is concerned, marriages and DmPs are simply contracts between two adults which have certain legal consequences regarding taxation, visitation rights, inheritance rights, adoption etc.
To the best of my knowledge, the formulation I suggested would not abrogate other, existing laws; presumably, Eutopia has laws against incest - in my understanding, they would not be abolished by adopting the bill in its suggested form. However, any future Bill on this topic can, of course, be made more explicit in this respect (and others, such as stipulations that an individual may belong to only one DmP at a time).
Maybe not your sense of morality, no. It seems you've fallen victim to the common conservative misconception that your own sense of morality is the only kind there is, though.
You've edited the bill very well
I can agree on your additions and it gives a base for later legislation that also should be implied but could be more controversial, like who's the proprietor of archaeological finds, the finder of the owner of the land or the state or if it isn't long ago the descendants of the former owner of the land from who the objects found originally were The only point for discussion that I can found is the punishment for illicit excavating.
Originally posted by Archeolooginspe
You've edited the bill very well
I agree, I wanted to leave the door as wide open as possible for future bills to add to this one. I sincerely hope you will be there to provide an expert's voice on them, when the time comes to pass them. If you have any ideas now or in the future, do not hesitate to contact me about them. I'm sure you know my number by now!
What exactly is your own opinion on illicit excavating?
Sebastian Fitzpatrick
My opinion about illicit excavating. Well it's an archaeologist worst nightmare. Because the illicit excavators will destroy the context of the site and the stratigraphy which give is many information about the chronology and so on. Further if those objects of illicit excavations come on to the market we don't know from where they are and are of little use for science how big their real value however is.
What about amateur-archeologists with this new law?
Well if they follow an evening-course archeological methods to get a lifetime licence or are controlled regulary by a real archeologue or other licence-holder they can go on.
What about amateur-archeologists with this new law?
Well if they follow an evening-course archeological methods to get a lifetime licence or are controlled regulary by a real archeologue or other licence-holder they can go on.
What do you think of the gambling taking place at one La Vela Hotel and Casino? It seems that the gambling taking place at the casino could end up on a much larger scale than the gambling at the racetrack which you so fervently opposed.