Espionage!

[SaydaNeen]

I know there isnt any espionage but maybe a DLC, hopefully one of the DLC included in the expansion pass would be awesome. Its WWII how do you NOT have espionage!!!

 

[Number 7]

espionage will 100% be a focus of a future expansion. But after so many delays i'm very sure the team had to say "these are the features we are releasing with" and call it to make sure HOI IV actually gets released sometime

 

[DiegoVaz]

i'd like to add a point here

i am NOT COMPLAINING about anything
i am more than happy for what i got to see and really like the game.
BUT there's a small problem
which needs to be clarified
so I CAN SEE WHAT NATIONAL FOCUS THE OTHER NATIONS ARE FOCUSING ON ?
isn't that a bit un-realistic ?
i mean sure if you have high level of decryption & you're able to see it then i'm okay with that
@podcat can you please look into it ? PLEASE
it would make the game much more interesting if we are not able to see what they're focusing on.
THANK YOU !!!

 

[SaydaNeen]

well that is how it is now, but maybe it will be changed in the future when espionage is implemented. Espionage will be a big update

 

[elessar90]

i'd like to add a point here

i am NOT COMPLAINING about anything
i am more than happy for what i got to see and really like the game.
BUT there's a small problem
which needs to be clarified
so I CAN SEE WHAT NATIONAL FOCUS THE OTHER NATIONS ARE FOCUSING ON ?
isn't that a bit un-realistic ?
i mean sure if you have high level of decryption & you're able to see it then i'm okay with that
@podcat can you please look into it ? PLEASE
it would make the game much more interesting if we are not able to see what they're focusing on.
THANK YOU !!!

National focuses simulate major efforts of the state. They could not be unnoticed.
You're able to hide some battleplan but how do you want to hide, say, that you're working on huge military alliance in the middle of Europe?

 

[DiegoVaz]

National focuses simulate major efforts of the state. They could not be unnoticed.
You're able to hide some battleplan but how do you want to hide, say, that you're working on huge military alliance in the middle of Europe?

Let's say as USA I'm trying to turn towards fascism
And an experienced uk player for instance by looking at my national focus knows what I'm doing and prepares himself for the inevitable
But if he doesn't know what I'm doing and only learns about the thing when I completely turn fascist and the event pops up
Then I can use the element of surprise

 

[SaydaNeen]

Let's say as USA I'm trying to turn towards fascism
And an experienced uk player for instance by looking at my national focus knows what I'm doing and prepares himself for the inevitable
But if he doesn't know what I'm doing and only learns about the thing when I completely turn fascist and the event pops up
Then I can use the element of surprise

I agree, and that is why espionage is a must. If the britain player wants to keep tabs on the US player it is a strategic choice to distribute spies, it shouldnt be just a click away. bottom line, it needs espionage like HOI III or EU IV, roughly, like Stealing tech, sabatoging, supporting own party or ruling etc. now Im sure that PDX will eventually bring it out but i personally would like to see it in one of the first two DLC's.

 

[elessar90]

Let's say as USA I'm trying to turn towards fascism
And an experienced uk player for instance by looking at my national focus knows what I'm doing and prepares himself for the inevitable
But if he doesn't know what I'm doing and only learns about the thing when I completely turn fascist and the event pops up
Then I can use the element of surprise

If you want to switch ideology of the entire nation how it is possible to hide that? You need a lot of public speeches and meeting, laws and some special governors.
You just can't hide that.

And I also agree that espionage is a great idea and it must be in the game now or later. But it should work slightly different than hiding entire nation course from everybody.

 

[elessar90]

now Im sure that PDX will eventually bring it out but i personally would like to see it in one of the first two DLC's

I completely agree with you. It will be there in the first two expansions I think, cuz of:

1. They already mentioned they were trying to implement such thing and just delayed it because it's not ready now.
2. How do you imagine any Fieldmarshal without espionage?