Epidemics intensity, isn't this too much? Morality rate discussion

[Castios]

I recorded all epidemics I had in province Thebes in Greece under Byzantine Empire on Default setting. I also included cause of death of each of my rulers. Black Death frequency was set on more.

My playstyle was careful. I never led in battle, always stayed in seclusion, however sometimes epidemics started so soon after previous one that seclusion gates were still on cooldown I also never participated in dangerous activities that could get me killed and RUSHED tech required to get hospital upgrades, so I had level 5 hospital really really early (somewhere in late 9xx), however it didn't seem to help that much. I also always had really good court physican.

Camp Fever 772 - 774
Camp Fever 775 - 777 - time since last outbreak 1
Measles 796 - 798- time since last outbreak 19
Camp Fever 806 - 808- time since last outbreak 8
Consumption 839 - 842- time since last outbreak 31
Measles 842 - 844- time since last outbreak 0
Black Death 860 - 862- time since last outbreak 16
Slow Fever 875 - 878- time since last outbreak 13
Slow Fever 890 - 892- time since last outbreak 12
Black Death 899 - 901- time since last outbreak 7
Measles 907 - 909- time since last outbreak 6
Smallpox 912 - 914- time since last outbreak 3
Black Death 920 - 922 - time since last outbreak 6
Consumption 942 - 945- time since last outbreak 20
Cosnumption 964 - 967- time since last outbreak 19
Black Death 984 - 986- time since last outbreak 17

I stopped recording after this because frequency started to drop quickly, perhaps because of level 5 hospital but I also rarely had outbreak even reach Thebes borders so I don't know. In conclusion, is this even realistic? Frequency of those outbreaks is insane. They last roughly 2 years, and average time between outbreaks is only about 12 years. May not seem much, but that means I spent 30 years or 14% of total game time (up to last recorded outbreak) in seclusion, which is not fun.

This is my rulers age and cause of death.

43 - Great Pox
48 - Stress
55 - Stressed/Depressed
59 - Suicide
73 - Stressed
65 - Mangled mess
77 - Stress
60 - Great Pox
70 - Natural death
55 - Suspicious circumstances
50 - Comatose in bed
67 - Natural death
58 - Depression

Which gives us average lifespan of 60 years and the most common cause of death to be stress.

So, do you play on "minor epidemics - Fewer" setting?

 

[prismaticmarcus]

i play it on default. black death on 'more' certainly doesn't help, one would think...

 

[treb]

On fewer epidemics, it makes it far more bearable to play in the Mediterranean in general because there isn't near constant raging god damned epidemic disease everywhere along every damn coastline

 

[Castios]

On fewer epidemics, it makes it far more bearable to play in the Mediterranean in general because there isn't near constant raging god damned epidemic disease everywhere along every damn coastline

I noticed that too. Epidemics seem to be most frequent along coastlines. Why is that?

 

[Brucesim2003]

I noticed that too. Epidemics seem to be most frequent along coastlines. Why is that?

Trade helps spread the diseases, and the easiest place to trade is in ports. You will also notice they tend to start in the wealthy (i.e. densely populated) provinces.

 

[Frozen Yakman]

From what I have read, until we had real advances in medicine and water treatment, city's death rates to disease exceeded their birth rate. They required migration from the country side to grow. Your table doesn't make me think this is unrealistic.

 

[Yxklyx]

Seclusion isn't always necessary - just take the chance.

 

[Zoomun]

When a character dies of stress at a certain age I don't even think of as having come from stressed. I think it said stressed because it was the only negative health modifier the character had.

 

[Zoomun]

I only ever go into seclusion for the plague and sometimes camp fever. It's really excessive to go into seclusion for every epidemic. Despite this I still have virtually no rulers die of an epidemic disease.

 

[Hopit]

I always play on fewer

 

[Evangeline]

Yeah, no need for seclusion if it's just a minor epidemic. Why did you have two great pox deaths but no great pox epidemic, by the way? And yes, disease rises with trade income (and seems to spare tribals currently?), so as a Meditarrenean nation it's useful to set minor epidemics to "fewer". You can do so while still getting achievements.

 

[FifthMonarchy]

Reaper's Due does seem to suffer from that tendency to push any new features added that bit too hard but as has been said, if you set for fewer epidemics and just ride most out it's not so bad. I actually get more irritated by bouts of flu that last over a year, wish they could set some of those chains o resolve obe way or the other a bit quicker.

 

[Castios]

When a character dies of stress at a certain age I don't even think of as having come from stressed. I think it said stressed because it was the only negative health modifier the character had.

Low health speeds increases chance that character dies, and traits like stressed reduce health. Old characters usually start with good base health and the ones that die young of "poor health" start with really bad health.

Yeah, no need for seclusion if it's just a minor epidemic. Why did you have two great pox deaths but no great pox epidemic, by the way? And yes, disease rises with trade income (and seems to spare tribals currently?), so as a Meditarrenean nation it's useful to set minor epidemics to "fewer". You can do so while still getting achievements.

Sometimes you get great pox out of nowhere.