Epidemics infecting my council are annoying.

[Mnemnosyne]

Ok, in general, I like most of the Reapers Due stuff and I'm not really annoyed at the overall level of diseases... But, epidemics infecting my council members when they're off doing stuff - especially my Spymaster in Constantinople - is really annoying. I watch my home provinces for any sign of disease, and whenever diseases come into my realm the 'shut the gates' appears to remind me to doublecheck and see where in my realm it is, then keep an eye on it.

But I have no warnings, no information about the diseases happening in other places on the map. Is there a disease ravaging Constantinople? Usually the first news I have of it is when my awesome spymaster dies of whatever the goddamn hell it is this time. Or an epidemic in the place my chancellor is fabricating claims on? Yep, again, first news I get is when they keel over.

If I could set a message to pop up whenever a disease strikes a province one of my councillors is working in, it would give me the option to recall them, at least, although to be honest, I feel like I'd just rather have them not subject to diseases where they're working. The whole idea of where they are is...kind of wonky anyway, considering they can be in Constantinople, as well as in my court, basically at the same time.

At least, I think at least more message settings to do with these diseases would be useful. I tried setting 'disease outbreak' in message settings to give me a popup, but I haven't noticed it doing so, so it must mean something different than what I think it means. I'd like to be able to set whether to get a popup anytime there's an epidemic in various places: in realm, in my or my vassals' territory, in my demesne, in my capital, in a province my army is in, in a province my councilor is in. Also in provinces my close relatives are landed in, if I have landed relatives (including wife).

 

[aono]

But I have no warnings, no information about the diseases happening in other places on the map.

Actually it is. You get that scary scull-and-bones flag beneath you character.

 

[Shebaloso]

Well, you can maybe NOT SEND your spymaster to spy on a province ravaged by black death, you know? Why should your councillors be unkillable by disease if the only issue is that you're misusing them?

And yes, there's a new mapmode that shows you exactly where the diseases are.

 

[Sirrobert1]

Well, you can maybe NOT SEND your spymaster to spy on a province ravaged by black death, you know? Why should your councillors be unkillable by disease if the only issue is that you're misusing them?

And yes, there's a new mapmode that shows you exactly where the diseases are.

If you'd bothered to read, you knew that the problem was the black death popping up after the spymaster is already there.

 

[aono]

If you'd bothered to read, you knew that the problem was the black death popping up after the spymaster is already there.

And what can be done? You believe player should get info about epidemics BEFORE they happens at all?

 

[Sirrobert1]

And what can be done? You believe player should get info about epidemics BEFORE they happens at all?

Again, if you'd have bothered to read...
He wants a popup warning you that there is an epidemic in a location where your council member is.
You know, like the kind of popup you get when an epidemic arives in your own realm.

 

[thevmag]

Hold the phone. Now give the phone to me. You're telling me that high-trade and highly economic coastal regions like Constantinople ever DON'T have epidemics?

 

[aono]

He wants a popup warning you that there is an epidemic in a location where your council member is.

And I answered you have general epidemic message for every epidemy in the world.
Also nothing really prevents you to turn on "Disease outbreak" for special intrest and other characters, and put your spymaster... host into a special intrest. I'm not sure will it work just for councilor now.

 

[Mnemnosyne]

Yeah, at least if I got a popup when there was a disease outbreak, I could immediately recall my councillors so they don't get the disease (or perhaps appoint people I want dead and send them there, mwhahaha). But as it is, unless I'm looking at the area pretty regularly, I don't know what's happening until after my people are dying from it.

The flag doesn't seem to show up for me unless I'm in the epidemics mapmode, and it kind of sucks to have to spend all my time in the epidemics mapmode just so I can keep an eye on this stuff. Most things that can affect you in this game you can set up alerts for to know when they happen by properly configuring message options and making use of starring the right characters, but diseases are missing a lot of options there.

 

[Shebaloso]

Again, if you'd have bothered to read...
He wants a popup warning you that there is an epidemic in a location where your council member is.
You know, like the kind of popup you get when an epidemic arives in your own realm.

If you've bothered to read, the last line of my post addresses that.

"And yes, there's a new mapmode that shows you exactly where the diseases are"

There, you can read that again if you must.

 

[Shebaloso]

Yeah, at least if I got a popup when there was a disease outbreak, I could immediately recall my councillors so they don't get the disease (or perhaps appoint people I want dead and send them there, mwhahaha). But as it is, unless I'm looking at the area pretty regularly, I don't know what's happening until after my people are dying from it.

The flag doesn't seem to show up for me unless I'm in the epidemics mapmode, and it kind of sucks to have to spend all my time in the epidemics mapmode just so I can keep an eye on this stuff. Most things that can affect you in this game you can set up alerts for to know when they happen by properly configuring message options and making use of starring the right characters, but diseases are missing a lot of options there.

What do you mean it doesn't appear to you? DO you remember where the Active Crusade flag was? It's exactly there, a brown flag with a skull. It should appear regardless of the map mode. If you're not getting it, perhaps you should file a bug report

 

[aono]

The flag doesn't seem to show up for me unless I'm in the epidemics mapmode, and it kind of sucks to have to spend all my time in the epidemics mapmode just so I can keep an eye on this stuff.

That's strange. Flag should appear any time there is epidemic somewhere in the world, and click on flag opens epidemic mapmode (also it's tooltip shows you where epidemic started; I haven't outbreaks on my current game, but I'll take a screenshot when it will happen). So when flag happens, you click on it and look into "where it happens".
Also you can setup messages to notify you about outbreak in starred character land. Message Settings -> Other -> Disease Outbreak.

UPD: Hell, you are right. Somehow it stops to shows up when outbreaks happens not in your lands, and it's strange, that wasn't before. I used to have a problem "damn, can I remove that flag? it's bothering me!"

 

[Shebaloso]

That's strange. Flag should appear any time there is epidemic somewhere in the world, and click on flag opens epidemic mapmode (also it's tooltip shows you where epidemic started; I haven't outbreaks on my current game, but I'll take a screenshot when it will happen). So when flag happens, you click on it and look into "where it happens".
Also you can setup messages to notify you about outbreak in starred character land. Message Settings -> Other -> Disease Outbreak.

UPD: Hell, you are right. Somehow it stops to shows up when outbreaks happens not in your lands, and it's strange, that wasn't before. I used to have a problem "damn, can I remove that flag? it's bothering me!"

It should show even when your realm is not being ravaged by any outbreaks. At least for me it is.

 

[Mnemnosyne]

It appears only when I'm already in epidemic mapmode, like this:


And as for setting the option and it not seeming to do anything, I went into message settings, found 'disease outbreak' under Other, set it at priority 1 + pause, but whenever an outbreak happens in my counties, the only warning I get is the Shut the Gates icon at the top (unless I'm paranoid and always have that up).

Perhaps the options already exist and they're just bugged and not working for me? How should it be working? I simply assumed they meant something different than what I thought they meant, cause that's happened to me with a number of settings before - they were working fine, I just thought they meant something different than what they actually did.

 

[Shebaloso]

It appears only when I'm already in epidemic mapmode, like this:
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And as for setting the option and it not seeming to do anything, I went into message settings, found 'disease outbreak' under Other, set it at priority 1 + pause, but whenever an outbreak happens in my counties, the only warning I get is the Shut the Gates icon at the top (unless I'm paranoid and always have that up).

Perhaps the options already exist and they're just bugged and not working for me? How should it be working? I simply assumed they meant something different than what I thought they meant, cause that's happened to me with a number of settings before - they were working fine, I just thought they meant something different than what they actually did.

Strange. Are you using mods? Try starting vanilla ck2 to see if this problem with the flag continues.

 

[aono]

And as for setting the option and it not seeming to do anything, I went into message settings, found 'disease outbreak' under Other, set it at priority 1 + pause, but whenever an outbreak happens in my counties, the only warning I get is the Shut the Gates icon at the top (unless I'm paranoid and always have that up).

Did you checked for starred chars? You see, you realm != your character lands, so to have info about disease for another character you need to star him. Star is persist through succession though, so you can star byzantine emperor and have a good chance you'll have owner of Constaniopole starred.
You know you should select "star" message regime, not own, right (because I found it randomly myself, to say truth)? You need to click white star highlighted on screen below, not yellow.

 

[Mnemnosyne]

Anime faces is the only one at the moment, got tired of most of my rulers having three chins. Before I installed it it was the same though, no flag unless I was in epidemic mapmode.

Even if it were working fine, the flag still wouldn't help that much. There's almost always an epidemic somewhere in the world, it seems. It would basically mean having to constantly switch to epidemics mapmode and check to see if the place I've sent my councillors is infected or if it's off someplace completely different. If the message setting thing would work, I could make the ruler of wherever I send them an interest, at least, and get some updates that way, but I've never gotten a popup from it.

 

[aono]

It should show even when your realm is not being ravaged by any outbreaks. At least for me it is.

Yes, it should, and it was so for a time. But I checked just now, and yes, I also haven't a banner in political mapmode, and had - in epidemics one.

 

[Rags17]

I survived the Black Death by building hospital in my capital, recruiting a good physician, having a lot of luck, then waiting to shut the gates until the disease was right on my doorstep. Risky, since I only had one unmarried character left I figured that the campaign was nearly over any way.

I really liked the fact that as my Councillors kept dying and being replaced I stopped being able to do anything as more and more of them went into seclusion and all their actions greyed out. Best of all was the fact that by going in late and coming out early (the Plague was still flowing around my realm as it retreated out of Italy) I never suffered any food shortage, cannibalism or anything else that a lot of people complained about. I did feel like going into hiding at one stage but I shrugged that off.

Again - best DLC ever !

 

[Vokasak]

Buy a better hospital.