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General Jac Indeed the Norwegian colours aren’t really very nice, but still just knowing that they represent Norway in this game gives me a good feeling when I watch that picture.
Yes, when/if we reach it fighting will be mainly over, but it takes forever travelling through all those Soviet provinces, still one gets to learn a lot of “interesting” place names atleast ;)
The mountains forces have come this far so I am sure they will be able to take Siberia also…


Murmurandus Thanks, it went well in the end :)



All Time for a another update I think. This time we leave the frontlines behind and see the Allies meet for yet another grand conference.
I will have it ready very soon….
 

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The Potsdam Conference




After the Allied victory in Finland, the Allied advances slowed down. With the main strength of the Allied armies still standing in the Western-Soviet Union or in Finland there were few forces in direct position to continue advancing east. And those armies that were advancing across the Ural Mountains and eastwards into Siberia all were hampered by the horrible infrastructure and the cold winter. The only positive thing General Patton could report to General Ruge at the Allied HQ in late February 1948 was the complete lack of resistance or Soviet forces, the only enemies Patton’s forces had encountered during the two first months of 1948 was one division of militia that were quickly destroyed by the Allied forces.



Although the Allied forces were still at war with the Soviet Union the frontline were no so far away from most people that there were few in the Allied countries who felt the strain of warfare, for most civilians and most people at home things were going great. The economy had entered a post-war boom and several new inventions were making their way into people’s households, for the common man it felt like the world was at peace.




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For most people in the Allied countries the war in the Soviet Union was not something that affect their daily life, instead the economy was booming after the wars and most commoners had much better living conditions now than they had ten years earlier.





It was with this background that Winston Churchill, soon entering his 8 years as British Prime Minister decided that it was necessary to address the German-issue, or as the French Prime Minister Daladier liked to call it, the German-problem . Germany had attacked France three times during the last 70 years and there were a lot of people in France that wanted to see Germany crush once and for all. The leading proponent of this strategy was General de Gaulle, but due to the fact that de Gaulle was currently trying to get his armoured forces across the Ural Mountains there were few in France who got to hear the General’s thoughts daily. Churchill and Nygaardsvold both agreed that something had to be done to Germany, also the situation in Eastern-Europe needed to be solved. The Poles in London were present at Foreign Secretary Anthony Eden’s office every day trying to get to meet Eden and tell him that they wanted their land back, although both Churchill and Eden was sick and tired of the Polish screaming it was a fact that Britain and France had gone into the war to try to save Poland from the Germans and that therefore it was seen as about time that the Polish government was handed full sovereignty over their country. There was also the question of the eastern-Slovakian provinces, after the defeat of Germany Norway had handed back their Czechoslovakian provinces to the government, but as the eastern provinces had been annexed into the Soviet Union it had always been a goal for the government of Benes to liberate the eastern-provinces, as these provinces had been liberated by British forces during the opening weeks of the Soviet campaign it was not felt by the Benes government that the land should be returned to Czechoslovakia. There were also the issues of the Baltic countries, Finland and possibly also several groups and areas inside of the Soviet Union who wanted to get their freedom and their own sovereignty.






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Cecilienhof Palace in Potsdam where the conference between the Allied powers were held






Due to the increase lobbying by several groups of people in all the Allied controlled eastern -Europe it was necessary for the Allied leaders to meet and decide upon these issues, at first Churchill was reluctant to inform Daladier about the conference that was planned to be held in Potsdam outside of Berlin in early May, originally American president Harry S. Truman had agreed to Churchill’s reluctance, but Truman’s Foreign Secretary Dean Acheson had presented a clear case to the President that it would be impossible to conduct the negotiations about the future of Europe without having France present, the president had altered his opinions and insisted that France be included. Also in the Norwegian government there were several people that were reluctant to include France, especially the Prime Minister Johan Nygaardsvold and the Minister of Defence, Jens Christian Hauge, but due to strong pressure from the upcoming new star of the Labour Party, the mayor of Oslo, Einar Gerhardsen and his people inside the party Nygaardsvold also folded and agreed to invite Daladier to the conference as long as the French promised not to bring General de Gaulle. General Ruge hearing about the Prime Minister’s fear of de Gaulle stated it clear in a telegram sent to the Ministry of Defence:
As for the French threat of bringing de Gaulle that won’t happen, the general is currently freezing his balls off somewhere in the Ural mountains trying to get his tanks moving. Inform the PM that he can conduct his conference without any danger of de Gaulle being there…”





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Soldiers from General De Gaulle’s army somewhere in the Ural Mountains March 1948, having travelled more than doubled the distance of Napoleon’s men in 1812 several of the soldiers were afraid that they would never get to see France again. Although their general wasn’t to be present at the conference, he still managed to be one of the most demanding subjects in the pre-conference negotiations






Even though de Gaulle was not to be present at the conference there were still several in the French delegation that were disliked, especially by the British, mainly due to the French insistence that Germany never should get to see self-government and the French insistence that the Germans should pay enormous war-debts to France. Churchill stated it clearly to Dean Acheson in a meeting on the 27th of February: These bloody frogs never learn do they? Give them what they want and in 30 years we shall have a new Hitler trying to get revenge.



Two days later Truman addressed the same issue in a radio broadcast, the President was a little more diplomatic than Churchill had been in private:



This is the time for a new dawn for Europe, and not just for Europe, this will be a new dawn for the world. We have a chance to create a new world where hatred and revenge will be removed from the though of man. We shall do our outmost to create such a new dawn for Europe and the World, a new dawn where the United States of America will no longer sit still and watch while the world sinks into war and horror, but a world where the United States will play and active part.

To insure the peaceful development of nations, free from coercion, The United States will take a leading step in establishing the United Nations. The United Nations is designed to make possible lasting freedom and independence for all its members. We shall not realize our objectives, however, unless we are willing to help free people to maintain their free institutions and their national and their national integrity against aggressive movements that seeks to impose upon them totalitarian regimes. This is no more than a frank recognition that totalitarian regimes imposed on free people, by direct of indirect aggression, undermine the foundations of international peace and hence the security of the United States.





Stating not just his intentions that the United States would play a more active part in the world than it had done in the years before the war, Truman in his speech also for the first time talk about the new organization that the Allies had been discussion for several months already, a new world organization that would be called the United Nations. The creation of the United Nations was also to become one of the most important issues that were to be addressed at the Potsdam conference.




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American President Harry S. Truman. In a speech on the 1st of March 1948 he stated his plans for the United Nations and the policy that would later be called the Truman Doctrine






The conference would be hosted by the Norwegian governor of Berlin, General Laake in co-operation with the German mayor of Berlin Konrad Adenauer. Adenauer was an old man already in 1948, and he had retired from politics in the early 30s when he had been forced to take the choice between joining the Nazi party or being sent to prison and removed from politics. Having a record as a man critical of Hitler and one that never had co-operated with the Nazis Adenauer had been just the man the Norwegians wanted when they gave the Germans self-government in Berlin in early 1947. The fact that the Norwegians in an understanding with the Americans also wanted to have Adenauer present at the conference did give some hints to the other Allies that something was going to happen to Germany and self-government no matter how much the French disliked the idea.




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The Allied Big three in Berlin March 1948*



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The Norwegian appointed German mayor of Berlin, Konrad Adenauer





It was against this background that the Allied leaders from the four leading countries as well as delegations from all other countries in the alliance and several delegations from countries and governments that wanted to campaign for increased self-government, sovereignty and freedom for their countries, all who had been under Soviet occupation, met in Potsdam in early March 1948. The conference was to begin on the 2nd of March 1948, but already on the 1st of March the big three, Truman, Churchill and Nygaardsvold were having secret talks in Berlin to create a plan for the conference. When the conference began it soon became clear what would be the main issue, the future of Germany was to be the first theme that the Allies would discuss.





*Yes, I know it is not a very good photo edit, but you get the picture ;)
 

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So Germany is getting it's freedom then, this will do wonders for the budget the military of France is getting Im sure. :D
 

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Presuming France maintains this harsh attitude post-war, it would seem any future European community might exist on a British-German axis rather than a French-German one.
 

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Huzzah! I finally get caught up after a lengthy time away (shame on me! :eek:o ), and find so many exciting things that have not only occurred (Die you Red Commie Scum! ;) ) but are about to occur (Hello Bundesrepublik Deutschland, suck it up Frenchie!) that I'm glad I caught up before the ride came to an end.

Now, I know I've been away for awhile, Lord E, but can we have an update? :D
 

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General Jac Oh yes I thought it was about time to let the Germans go. As for the French military budget I am thinking it will become even higher than ever… but as you will see when I manage to get the next update finished they French aren’t that happy about all this ;)



stnylan I think you are pointing to something very important here. I also feel that the French might become more hostile to the Germans, but on the other side I am guessing they will also want to get the Germans as closely linked to Paris as possible. I am pretty sure there are some in Paris that would want to see Germany ruled not from Berlin, but from Paris… time will show!
But one thing is for sure, this time Norway won’t be allowed to vote no even once…. :)


Draco RexusGreat to have you back sir, and good to hear that you are still enjoying the story. Yes, thee is still something happening although this AAR is closing in on its third year now, it has been quit a long way :)
At the moment my days are very busy with exams, but the next update is currently half-written so I hope to be able to finish it this weekend! So if you can wait a couple of more days you will see that the French are not willing to let the Germans go;)
 

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The Potsdam Conference part II




The meeting of the Allied powers outside Berlin in the spring of 1948 would prove to be the decisive moment for post-war Europe. With the war against the Soviet Union no longer being a grand conflict, but instead it had turned into small skirmishes and a question of removing the last few pockets of resistance, the Allies now had the time and possibility to look forward to a new world and a new Europe.




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Cecilienhof Palace in Potsdam where the conference between the Allied powers were held



The German mayor of Berlin and de facto leader of the German “government” Konrad Adenauer was not willing to wait any longer. Having insisted upon a solution to the “German Problem” as it had been dubbed by the French, Adenauer had managed to get the Norwegian PM to agree to summon a closed conference of the Big Three and Adenauer where the German would be allowed to explain his plans for a self-govern, post-war Germany. President Truman had been a strong supporter of increased German self-government and during the last months of 1947 it became clear to the world that Washington was leaning towards Adenauer’s position, a free, sovereign Germany.


Also from Oslo the signals had become more and more clear, Nygaardsvold and his government were determined upon getting a solution to the German issues, also the fact that Norway now had the responsibility for an enormous occupation zone in the Soviet Union drained much resources from the German zone, and facing economic troubles if the country was to continue to support both zones it had become more and more necessary for the Norwegians to get a solution to the German issues. For Winston Churchill hearing the thoughts about a free Germany was something the he didn’t fully agree to. Having fought Germany two times during the last 30 years Churchill had great fears about what a could happen if the Germans were allowed to govern themselves once again. Therefore it was the British position that needed to be altered by Adenauer when he meet the Allied three in a secret meeting late the first day of the Potsdam conference.


Adenauer made many valid points about the German situation and he managed to convince Churchill that Adenauer was something new; he was a democratic statesman in Germany. Still Churchill upheld his doubts. Having no interest in a new war also Nygaardsvold was a little feared by the thoughts of a new, strong Germany, but having already insisted that the new German state would get a new constitution and would be very different from the Germany created from Versailles Nygaardsvold although sceptical, thought that something could be arranged. Even Truman feared a new militaristic Germany, but the American president didn’t see the fear as a problem, but instead as a challenge. Insisting that Germany be given a new federal constitution, where the central government wouldn’t be able to become as powerful as it had been under Hitler, Truman also wanted to make sure that referendums were made illegal, a strong federal supreme court would be created to defend the constitution and all right and left wing extremist parties should be banned. Also to make sure that both Germany and Europe would be strong in the future Truman pledged to Churchill and Nygaardsvold that this time the USA wouldn’t withdraw into “splendid isolation” instead Truman would create permanent American bases and garrisons in Germany. But in the end it was the last thing Truman promised the Europeans that made Churchill agree to make sure that the US would keep its promises and to bring Europe and America closer together Truman proposed to keep the alliance together and create a permanent, new alliance. The alliance would be open to membership from all members of the Allies, it would have its headquarters in Europe, but it would be a world organization that would defend Europe and continue the strong links between the USA and Europe, considering the fact that most of the Allied members shared a common link to the Atlantic Ocean, Truman proposed calling the new security organization, the Atlantic Treaty Organization. Considering that facts that the new Germany would be very different from the one of the inter-war period and listening to the American promises in the end Churchill agreed, now it was just a question of convincing the rest of the conference.


The next morning the Germany issue was the main issue of the day. The French horrified by the rumours that Europe might once again see a sovereign and free German state had been trying all morning to get someone in the American delegation to talk and confirm that it was only rumours. But as the morning hours passed by and no one had stated that the rumours were only rumours the French were beginning to walk around fearing the worst. Some were even talking about withdrawing all French support for the war if it turned out that Germany would be given self-government. Churchill hearing about the threats from the French delegation decided that enough was enough and marched straight into the offices of the French PM Daladier and made it very clear what he thought about the French position:


"This is totally unacceptable. You bloody frogs always try to create trouble for the rest of the world. It is bloody well about time you get your garlic ridden noses up and start understanding the realities of the world… The German question will be solved today one way or the other, and you can decided if you want to be a part of the new world, or if you just want to linger in your fantasies about the old!”





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Winston Churchill made strong and angry remarks towards the French and their negotiation position. Although Churchill’s words were not very diplomatic there were many who thought they were correct






Daladier shocked by the outburst from the British PM couldn’t get himself to say anything, he just stood there looking shocked at Churchill, until Churchill turned around and marched out. The news about the British outburst was quickly the main subject all around the conference area, fearing that this could mean the end to the conference without anything having been done, President Truman was quick to visit the French delegation and try to get the French back into the conference. What was said by the American during the meeting with the French was never made public, but it soon became clear that it had worked. Three hours later the French were back around the conference table and when the question of German self-government was debated Daladier, although he objected to it, didn’t work against it and in the end even the French agreed seeing as there was nothing else they could. Adenauer had won; Germany would once again become a free, sovereign, self-govern state.






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The new German State was moved west, and would become the centre of the Post-War European continent.





The rumours about what was said between the American and French leader in private were many, and as time developed they became more and more imaginative. Still the best clue was probably given by Truman himself many years later when he commented upon the decision to test the Manhattan Project on real targets.


Enough was enough. It had to be done to save the lives of many good American servicemen. It was either them or a question of creating a new lake in the Seine…”


The truth about what was said was however many told to the public as the two leaders had promised never to tell.







After the difficult issue about Germany had been addressed and solved, it was much easier to get the Allies to agree on the next matters on the agenda, the question of the war against the Soviet Union. It was made very clear that all the states would pledge themselves to continue the war until victory had been secured, and in a rare showing of common understanding the French even offered to send 5 new divisions to the east front to aid in the operations currently ongoing in the Far East and east of the Ural mountains.



Then the conference move on to Eastern-European matters. It had already been reached an understanding that Czechoslovakia would get her eastern provinces back, also it was talks about liberating Poland, something Churchill found very satisfying seeing as Poland was the reason the Allies had gone to war with Germany in the first case. Nygaardsvold had recently held talks with his Swedish college, and the Swedes had managed to convince the PM that something needed to be done also with the Baltic States. Addressing the matter at the conference, it was quickly picked up by the Belgian delegation, always one to favour smaller, sovereign states.


When Nygaardsvold then also linked the Finnish question to the Baltic States he got the full backing from the Finnish leader Mannerheim and all the delegations from the smaller members of the Allies agreed. As the Turkish delegate would state, the gallant small northern countries deserved their freedom. Wanting to brand himself as defender of the free world, Truman was also convinced and it was agreed in the afternoon of the 5th day of the conference that a new Eastern-Europe would be the goal, a new Eastern-Europe filled with free, sovereign states. However as Churchill was quick to state, there was little that could be done about Eastern-Europe until the Soviet Union had surrendered and the people were fully free from the communist threat once and for all. Because of this it was decided that the freedom of the Eastern-European nations was to be one of the main goals after the Soviet Union had surrendered and the Allies could take full control of the areas without having to fear communist uprising, riots or disturbance planned by the Soviet authorities. A new Eastern-Europe couldn’t be created until one was 100% certain that the countries would be able to survive for themselves, still true some last minute intervening from Truman it was agreed to liberate Finland, Hungary, Albania and Austria as all these nations were self-sufficient nations that had been under Allied control long enough to establish democratic governments and bright futures as free nations.





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The last issues on the conference agenda were Truman’s proposals for the new world organization and the new alliance. Addressing the organization first, all the countries present and several more neutral and friendly countries from all around the world agreed to set up the new world organization. It was agreed that its headquarters should be situated in the USA and the negotiations about the treaty of the organization would begin one month later, Truman would managed to do with his United Nations what Wilson had been unable to do with the League of Nations, create a world organization where the USA would be a full, committed member and one that would help increase security and peace in the world.





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The US delegate signing the UN charter with President Harry S. Truman watching




As the conference came to an end after long days and nights in Potsdam, much had been achieved. The most difficult matter had been the German problem, but after hard negotiations and much bad feelings and words, and agreement had been reached. The East-European issues had been talked about, and a new Europe would be created after the war. Also the fact that agreement had been reach on the creation of the United Nations made President Truman especially proud, and as he stated to his Secretary of State Dean Acheson:


”It has been though and hard, but by god we have done it. We have managed to get the world to agree and unite. Let us pray this will show the world that peace and not war is the best way to secure common understanding, friendship and peace!”
 

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A most spiffing update, excellent work at allied co-operation (well allied intimidation ;) ).

While the more committed US seems promising I worry about President Truman;

Lord E said:
Let us pray this will show the world that peace and not war is the best way to secure common understanding, friendship and peace!”

Isn't peace the only way to ensure peace? I mean if your at war then your not at peace, it's what the word means. :confused: :D
 

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Good to see that the allies have managed to create a true cooperation between themselves, as usual Churchill had to make the reality clear for some of the attendants though. :D
 

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A most entertaining and good AAR. Good to see that Norway holds her own in the alliance, and that the french still are french. Might i suggest that for future AAR you create a dedicated comment tread, so that the story is not broke up by random comments (like this one)
 

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Gotta love Churchill and his method of cutting corners :)
 

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Outstanding!

I agree with stnylan, no matter what you think about Churchill, you gotta admit the man knows how to make an issue black and white, eh?

And Truman? I have the feeling his words with Daladier might just have been a tad bit... ah, harsher than Churchill's. A lake on the Seine, indeed. :)

Now that we have an idea on how Europe is going to look once the Soviets realize that they're fighting an already lost war, when will the Soviets figure that out?
 

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Lord E: The Potsdam Conference part II

most excellent results ! ! :)

magnificent updates ! !
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I have followed this thread for a long time, and it has given me a lot of fun reading it. I am not accustomed to post at forums, actually this is my first ever!

But, as I fear this might be drawing to an end, I felt I had to sign up, before the action ends, to thank you heartily, for a story well written, and above all very entertaining.

I have enjoyed how you have mixed Norwegian WW2 history into the story, and I was certainly saddened when Jens Christian Hauge had not secured himself a Norwegian tank or ten to race in the forefront on Montgomerys final stage into Moscow, although come to think of it, both Molotov and probably Stalin as well would have fled the city long before, had they known that there was an avengeful Norwegian tank or two amidst the allied forces attacking Moscow.

I sure hope he will make up for it by coming back as the Norwegian ruler of a puppeted SU. It seems that releasing puppets are the politically correct thing to do, but as Norway still have a border (although extremely short) towards SU, they must not let the bear roam unchecked again.

Hoping updates will continue,
Enig og tro! -MesterK
 

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El Pip Thanks the Allies are doing their best although there are always some troubles….
As for President Truman you need to remember that he has been working a lot and because of that sometimes even presidents do mistakes;) also I think he wants to make it very clear to our French friends what he means, monsieur de Gaulle and company sometimes needs to get thing very well explained….


General Jack What would the world do without Winston, one always need one that can speak the truth and teach people a lesson;)


Frostbeard Hello and welcome onboard. Glad you have enjoyed the story so far. there are still some updates left before Norway can rule the world


stnylan As I said to Jac the world needs Winston to tell it the truth


Draco RexusThanks :)

Winston sure knows what to say and how to say it that is for sure…
But as you say Truman also knows how to make ones point clear, as for the Soviets I think they will soon learn the lesson. As you will see in the next update they haven’t got much territory left, so I think it is safe to say that the world WILL be over the Christmas

Murmurandus Thank you :)


GhostWriter Thanks

MesterK Welcome onboard, glad you have enjoyed the story.
Yes, I think it makes it feel more authentic when one can mix real persons into the story and as for Hauge he has played an important role and I can promise you that he will play an important role also in the future…



All A new update is coming very soon. As you will see the war is soon coming to an end and the Soviet Union will soon be defeated. But Zhukov and his friends have not surrendered yet, so there will still be some war update before this game ends:)
 

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Warfare in the Far East and victory in the West


While the Allied politicians celebrated their peaceful intentions and drew the post-war world for the frontline soldiers in the Allied armies life was very different. The life they had on the frontline in Siberia was not peaceful, but it was not very warlike either. Many of the soldiers had fought their way through the Soviet Union and some had even seen combat in Germany and France in the early years of the wars, so they were veterans of many battles, but few had seen such easy time as they had in Siberia. After the Allied armies had broken and destroyed the Red Army during the fighting in the European parts of the Soviet Union they life on the eastern side of the Ural Mountains were quiet. There were few Red Army divisions left to defend the enormous area from the Ural Mountains to the Pacific Ocean and most of these divisions were tied up fighting against the Allied forces attacking from China and Manchuria. In the Far East Lord Slim, Viceroy of China and Supreme Allied Commander in the Far East had secured several victories against the Red Army and in February 1948 Slim had secured once more in breaking the Soviet defensive lines, this had left a giant hole in the Soviet defences and made it possible for the Allied armies to split the Soviet forces and move into Siberia also from the east. Still the fighting in the mountains of Northern-China, Manchuria and Mongolia were hard and it seemed more and more likely that the forces moving in from the west would have to do most of the job occupying Siberia.





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The situation in Siberia and the Far East, May 1948




The frontline soldiers coming from the west saw few Soviet defenders, and those that were spotted were mainly militia forces and they stood no chance against battle hardened Allied troops supported by armoured tanks, artillery and air support. It was mainly a case of brushing them aside and then following so close behind them as to make as many men as possible desert and surrender. Even though they fighting was very easy General Patton, commanding the Allied attack from the Ural Mountains into Siberia, complained to his superior commander Montgomery several times about the Soviets: These bloody commies, they show no fighting spirit. When we arrive somewhere where they have created defences they try to hold us back, but the moment we break through they start retreating and moving back. Why can’t they just stand still and allow for me to destroy them once and for all! I tell you these bastards have no spirit…”



Patton complained, while the Allied soldiers enjoyed the situation. Now they could sit in their trucks and move forward for mile after mile without seeing any enemies, and when they faced the enemy the enemies were so quickly defeated that the normal infantry didn’t get to do much of the job. For soldiers who understood that they hard part of the war was over and had started thinking that they might get through the wars alive and healthy the less danger and combat situations they had to face the better. The soldiers had started dreaming about what they would do after the war was over, and although Patton didn’t like to admit it, even the American warrior was looking forward to seeing the USA again. Although many Americans were still fighting in Siberia there were already some who had got a ticket back home, and although the Allies had no plans of leaving in the Soviet Union for several years the first trains started to leave Eastern-Europe heading for the harbours of Western-Europe with soldiers going home from June 1948.






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Soldiers leaving the frontline, early June 1948. The train is heading for Wilhelmshaven where they would transfer to a transport ship heading for the USA







For many Norwegian soldiers they spring of 1948 did mean that they would also soon be heading back home. Having fought in Finland and the Baltic States many Norwegian divisions were located in Finland or north-western parts of the Soviet Union during the spring of 1948. Seeing as President and Filed Marshal Mannerheim was pushing hard on the Allies to increase Finnish self-government and control in Finland plans were made to withdraw several Allied divisions from Finland during the summer, this was of course dependent upon the fact that the Finnish forces and the Finnish government proved that they could keep the country under control, and that the Allied High Command were confident and satisfied that all Soviet forces had been removed from Finland and taken prisoner. The Norwegian General Fleischer, acting in capacity of his role as Allied military governor in Helsinki was given the task and responsibility from the Allied High Command of making sure there were no Red Army forces left in Finland, and begin the transfer of control over Finland back to Finnish authorities. Even though this would mean a reduction in the number of Allied forces from Finland it didn’t mean a complete withdrawal. Both Churchill and Nygaardsvold had made it very clear to Mannerheim that if he was to be given increase self-government it would be depended upon him allowing the Allies to keep forces and bases in Finland both to control the peaceful development of Finland, but even more important to control the north-western Soviet Union as well as the Baltic area. But keeping some forces didn’t mean keeping all and for the Norwegian forces in Finland the rumours that some might be going home were good news and the men started counting their points seeing who would be lucky and be able to return to Norway.





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Norwegian soldiers in Finland early 1948. Although some of the Norwegian forces were withdrawn back to Norway during the summer of 1948 most of the Norwegian forces would stay in Finland for many years.
 

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Lord E: ...Patton complained, while the Allied soldiers enjoyed the situation.

let Patton complain all he wants to. the solders in the 'trenches' deserve the break ! ! :D

Lord E:
...keeping some forces didn’t mean keeping all and for the Norwegian forces in Finland the rumours that some might be going home were good news.

aye, good news that is ! ! :)

the sooner the Norwegian forces go home, the better it is for morale ! ! ;)

wonderful update ! !
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Excellent news from the East, and glad to see people are keeping an eye on the Finns even as they gain independence. They are shifty breed and need watching! :D