Enhancing colonies, their management and development

[in heaven]

Hello,

I always thought that colonies could be improved, and so i will point out couple of ideas for colonies for developers to think about and maybe even add them to the game.

• With new development system, colonies should start at minimal base tax + taxes by natives (just like in current version, where natives add up to base tax).
• Currently, i feel that liege doesn't have enough of control over colonies. Yes, they were quite independent, but i still feel that liege should be able to:
  • stop colony from suicide attacking other colonies (they could reject your order if they are unloyal)
  • Develop their provinces
  • Build buildings.
• In my opinion, its more of an bug, but colonial ports should be considered mine, so i should be able to upgrade my ships in their ports. Right now if i protect trade in caribbeans and i get new light ships by teching up, i have to sail back to mainland and upgrade them.
• Cultural conversions should not be only limited to thirteen colonies and more cultures could be added like:
  • Argentinian
  • Colombian
  • Mexican
  • Canadian
  • Others, at least major countries should get alternative cultures for regions.
• Investing or developing provinces for colony should decrease liberty desire.
• Colonies could have autonomy just like provinces do. Autonomy would control:
  • Liege's ability to control colony, maybe with 0 autonomy liege could be able to even control colonial troops, disband them, and stuff like that, while with high autonomy liege could not even tell colony not to fight against other colonies.
  • Tariffs
  • Outgoing gold (more autonomy means less gold going to liege)
  • Trade power transfering (more autonomy equals more trade power for colony)
  • Liberty desire
• Renaming colonies after their creation. Specially when you get foreign colony which is named New Granada when you are Japan, doesn't make much sense.
• This one might be impossible, but randomly generated country color after getting independence
• Custom flag after getting independence.

Of course not everything from this list could be used and for me at least, asian region is in bigger demand for custom mechanics.

 

[Dorevai]

• Currently, i feel that liege doesn't have enough of control over colonies. Yes, they were quite independent, but i still feel that liege should be able to:
  • stop colony from suicide attacking other colonies (they could reject your order if they are unloyal)
  • Develop their provinces
  • Build buildings.
• In my opinion, its more of an bug, but colonial ports should be considered mine, so i should be able to upgrade my ships in their ports. Right now if i protect trade in caribbeans and i get new light ships by teching up, i have to sail back to mainland and upgrade them.

Bolded - oh god, yes pls.

And yea, I would really like to be able to stop my colonies from attacking other colonies. I hate when I'm in world war 8 because the governor of Trinidad wanted the Orinoco Delta AGAIN. Like, dude, chill. Half of America and Europe both go to war because you wanted some jungle river.

I'd also like to be able to build plantations and the such at the very least. I know the development system is scrapping some buildings, but in the current system it's difficult to improve the output of new world resources. I often see colonies focus on the temple line of buidings nearly to the exclusion of anything else unless there is a gold province.

 

[magnusvejby]

I liked everything agreed! +1

 

[Mr_Hobo]

I'd like to have a system for letting players decide if they want to establish colonial nations. With establishing them being something that needs to be done long-term, although in the short-term direct control might be better.

 

[johnleeyx]

Totally agree but I thought colonies could already be renamed once formed. Maybe in next week's dd, new mechanics such as more detailed subject orders could be given such as build up military, morr stability...

 

[LRDK]

I agree with everything
Also, I want to give my colonies adjectives. The Papal Guyana conquest of new Granada doesn't cut it

 

[magnusvejby]

I agree with everything
Also, I want to give my colonies adjectives. The Papal Guyana conquest of new Granada doesn't cut it

Adjectives YES PLEASE!

 

[3ishop]

I agree, focusing on set production of colonies should be done, I tend to use console commands to get them to manually build up grain and tropical wood production, I find the force limit boost and MP cost reduction rather useful

 

[ShTiCkY]

Good points.
I agree this would add depth & quality to the colonial aspect of the game.

It would greatly increase gameplay, and it would add a rational sense of historical accuracy I feel like.
Cheers

 

[LRDK]

Also, If not a major nation or default name, the new culture could be the adjective of the colonial nation.

 

[AmbroStoics]

I think what would be great is the old cultures becoming new ones. So if a colony is sufficiently old, it'd start developing it's own culture which would belong to the original culture group. So there could be Irish American, Russian Australian, etc. Without limitations to what cultures appeared historically.

Another possibility would be having historical cultures (American, Canadian, Argentinian, etc) but them becoming members of the culture most prominent in the region. So if I colonized mexico as France, the Mexican culture that appears would be in the French culture group.

 

[LRDK]

I think what would be great is the old cultures becoming new ones. So if a colony is sufficiently old, it'd start developing it's own culture which would belong to the original culture group. So there could be Irish American, Russian Australian, etc. Without limitations to what cultures appeared historically.

Another possibility would be having historical cultures (American, Canadian, Argentinian, etc) but them becoming members of the culture most prominent in the region. So if I colonized mexico as France, the Mexican culture that appears would be in the French culture group.

And the culture Name could be the adjective of the CN (if they give us the option for adjectives)