Engulfers continue being OP

[Satonir]

So we get engulfers, psy-buffs, transfer pain on heroes, heritor mods, devotion ability. And win anything.

 

[Zaskow]

This is not issue of engulfers, but OPness of certain abilities and operations.
Guiding Presence should be just deleted from Kirko heroes. No one other race has ability from T4 unit.
Some abilities should lose 'Psionic buff' tag. Shadow Step for sure. I don't know that Fury of the Swarm and Echo of the Hivemind count as 'Psionic buff'.

 

[Sinsling]

Shadow step is kirko's only repeatable psionic buff though. I'd prefer it simply lost its aoe application, so that psionic buffs only apply to the hidden/hero itself.

 

[Satonir]

Shadow step is kirko's only repeatable psionic buff though. I'd prefer it simply lost its aoe application, so that psionic buffs only apply to the hidden/hero itself.

Guiding presence is also repeatable. And it is absolutely broken as a hero skill

 

[Sinsling]

Guiding presence is also repeatable. And it is absolutely broken as a hero skill

I consider that skill horribly broken and shouldn't be on a hero at all. If it becomes a t4 unit only ability, it would hardly count as a repeatable buff source for most games imo.

 

[Satonir]

Consider topic name as a partial click bait. Although to be honest Engulfers are not as imbalanced themselves as either heroes mounting Engulfers or heroes-mounting-engulfers-and-transferring-pain-from-real-engulfers. You just see that your t3 unit with 20 basic repeating attack does 4-5 damage, with a tiny chance, and become as sad as you can imagine.

Kirko+engulfers is the most cost effective combo in this game ever thought of. And it has no staright counters. Even Ramjet spam does not counter it unless you have double the number of Ramjets, because Ramjets are very easy to kill