English/Welsh Longbow retinue too weak now?

[NWCtim]

I get why it was nerfed, but when comparing them to other retinues, I think they were nerfed a bit too hard.

Here's some comparative stats with other archer heavy retinues:

English Longbow - 250 Archers - 500 cap usage - 70 Base cost - +20/10% archer o/d

Nubian Archers - 300 Archers - 300 cap usage - 42 Base cost - +20/20% archer o/d

Steel Bow Infantry - 200 Arch 20 W.Eles - 600 cap - 84 base cost - +10/30% archer o/d

Generic Skirmish - 200 Arch 50 H. Inf - 550 cap - 77 Base cost - +20/10% archer o/d, +10% H. inf d


The Longbows seem to be nothing special compared to the generic skirmish retinue, and are by all accounts worse than the Nubian Archers, while providing nothing unique, like war elephants.

 

[PAnZuRiEL]

Nubian Archers - 300 Archers - 300 cap usage - 42 Base cost - +20/20% archer o/d

There's no way Nubian Archers only use 300 cap. Archers, all archers, have a maintenance of 2, and that is independent of what retinue they happen to be in. The Nubian retinue uses 600 cap.

Also the real strength in longbows isn't the retinue. It's the cultural tactic.

 

[NWCtim]

There's no way Nubian Archers only use 300 cap. Archers, all archers, have a maintenance of 2, and that is independent of what retinue they happen to be in. The Nubian retinue uses 600 cap.

Also the real strength in longbows isn't the retinue. It's the cultural tactic.

I got the numbers from the wiki, didn't verify in game.