England isn't looking too good....

[Galleblære]

England isn't doing very well.....

I wonder why....

 

[Chaingun]

Actually I see at least a couple of those in every game. Unfortunately they of course are the ones to increase the rate of disintegration of kingdoms, but even without them the general trend of decline continues.

 

[SonofWinter]

Apparently, the CK developers believe that you can live with pneumonia for more than 6 months. Because the ultra superior medicine that was available at the time.

 

[Havard]

England isn't doing very well.....

In my current game England is down to three provinces I think. First the King Alphonse de Normandie was toppled by the usurping Geraud de Nesle. Alphonse retained his duchies, however, and was able to strike back to regain the throne to the Normandy dynasty.

 

[tombom]

Who has sieged Dublin?

But in my current game at 1094, no kingdom has disintergrated yet.

 

[Deaghaidh]

Apparently, the CK developers believe that you can live with pneumonia for more than 6 months. Because the ultra superior medicine that was available at the time.

You can have lingering infections with periodic worsening of symptoms and lessening. This can go on for years. You get 'better' without really recovering, then get sick again after a while, if that makes sense.

But it does happen too often for the CK period.

 

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In my current game England is down to three provinces I think. First the King Alphonse de Normandie was toppled by the usurping Geraud de Nesle. Alphonse retained his duchies, however, and was able to strike back to regain the throne to the Normandy dynasty.

This is what I love about CK. Weird stuff happening

 

[unmerged(27913)]

Who has sieged Dublin?

Croatia did.

 

[Brownbeard]

in my games croats always siege dublin. right after they subjagate scotland.

 

[GreenMarine]

In my current game the main British Isle is completely owned by the Kingdom of Zirid and the King of England long dead.

 

[Galleblære]

Well, do you think the AI should be better at picking suitable offspring for inheritance? I seriously don't think a King would let his lazy, sick idiot son inherit all of england if he could somehow avoid it.

 

[unmerged(1057)]

Kingdom of the Complete Moron?..

 

[unmerged(27913)]

KCM rules the world

 

[Duuk]

Kingdoms should really all get a loyalty bonus, much like the Empire bonus.

This would help hold them together through the frequent poor stat sick, insane kings.

 

[Barkdreg]

the real problem is that kingdoms that disintigrate don't get united again

when a king is bad/weak his vassals should revolt and elect a new king instead of declaring independence one after another

 

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when a king is bad/weak his vassals should revolt and elect a new king instead of declaring independence one after another

Nice idea. I'd sure like to see it in the game, but I doubt it will ever be implemented. . Hopefully atleast something is done, to try to preserve the kingdoms.

 

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I usually play as Duke of Norfolk. Last time, I instigated a war between England and the Fatmid Muslims. I made peace and England was invaded. at which point, I took it back
Ofcourse, I controled half of France and all the Baltic states and 100,000 troops. I got the Engliush throne I wanted.
Question...is it bad when you enjoy destroying the Muslim provinces? I also enjoy destroying the French, but thats not a problem :rofl:

 

[Beauclerc]

Well, do you think the AI should be better at picking suitable offspring for inheritance? I seriously don't think a King would let his lazy, sick idiot son inherit all of england if he could somehow avoid it.

There are plenty of examples in history, in England alone, with heirs not being in the same league as their fathers, but the order of succession was never overruled.

I totally agree with Barkdreg's idea though. Bad kings like John, Edward II and Richard II all suffered revolts at the hands of the barons. Although this was rarely in order to re-elect a new King in England's case - it was usually to rein in the King (as in John's case). If the King was to be deposed, he was usually replaced by someone with a strong legitimate claim (such as the current legitimate successor).

 

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Actaully this is the one real issue I have with CK... kingdom disintigration is far too common.... so far in one game I've seen. all of these kingdoms disintigrate.... in order..

Denmark - although a german invasion has something to do with that.
Poland - no reason for this one.
England - again German agression partly to blame but since I've seen part of east england occupied by, Germany, Papal States, Fatmids, other Islamic nations,... at the point were I had English counties comming under my control by way of inheiritances I took steps and now Scotland/Lithuania now controls much of england.
Scotland - but that was by evil plots and design... my fault hehehehehehehe...
All the Spanish states- moors only took advantage of crumbling kingdoms.
France - Spectacular spontaneous combustion for no apperant reason. still a kingdom of france but it's isolated to the kings counties only.
Croatia - again can't see an apperent reason for this.
Germany - really wierd on this one.. one minute germany was united and strong.. the next it splits into 3 or 4 smaller kingdoms/duchies.

now in 1223 there are basicly only 2 contiguous contries.. Me.. Scotland/Lithuania/Russia and the Byzantine Empire... everyone else if fragmented chaos of duchies and counties... although there are some Italian duchies that are close to claiming the title King of Italy and Hungary had remained remarkable stable. and there is are two new ahistorical kingdoms of Bohemia and Burgandy that show promise.

I think the likelyhood of counties/Duchies to declare independace is too high in CK for most countries... England, France, in particular... I think the game would be much more realistic if counties did other disloyal acts other than declare independance... i.e. withhold crown contributions or taxes or such, rather than automaticly delcaring independance when loyaltly drops below 20%...

Particularly for individual counties... I've never seen so many counties going it alone... swiching alliegences I can see... but outright declaring independace should be quite unusual. like once a game occurance... rather than counties declaring independace. a more realistic senario would be for them to swich alliegance to another duke in the same country or to the crown directly. Duchies I can see declaring independance but even then only if thier vassels have alot of support for the duke rather than the king...

 

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Bad kings like John, Edward II and Richard II all suffered revolts at the hands of the barons. Although this was rarely in order to re-elect a new King in England's case - it was usually to rein in the King (as in John's case). If the King was to be deposed, he was usually replaced by someone with a strong legitimate claim (such as the current legitimate successor).

Geez, its a bit too harsh to judge these Kings (John, EdwardII and Richard II) as Bad kings without fully considering their circumstances?

If the King was to be deposed, he was usually replaced by someone with a strong legitimate claim (such as the current legitimate successor).

I assume by that you mean Henry Tudor had a stronger claim to the English throne than Richard III? :wacko: