England into Netherlands?

[dav77-b]

is it possible to form the netherlands as england ?
I need to change my primary culture to dutch. How can I do this?

 

[Hexmage]

I believe changing culture can be done by moving your capital to an area with that culture.

From the wiki

All countries have one primary culture. This is normally fixed, although the "Accept Cultural Shift" decision can change it, as can certain national decisions.

For the cultural shift decision to be available, your capital must be situated in a province that does not have your primary culture. To then enact the decision, the culture in your capital province must be the dominant culture in your nation. The culture with the most provinces in your nation defines which is the dominant culture, for the decision, this can be greater than or equal to any other culture type.

 

[Incompetent]

is it possible to form the netherlands as england ?
I need to change my primary culture to dutch. How can I do this?

Yes, you should be able to culture-shift. You need to put your capital in a Dutch-culture province and make Dutch the 'dominant' culture. I think you will need to get rid of most of your English provinces to do this, as England starts with more English provinces than the total number of Dutch provinces in existence.

 

[Sandmann]

is it possible to form the netherlands as england ?
I need to change my primary culture to dutch. How can I do this?

You need dutch to be the dominant culture base tax wise to be able to shift culture at first. Which means you would need to sell alot of english provinces or something, not sure it would be worth it at all. Of course, perhaps the english provinces could be sold to a Northumbrian vassal or something which you later can diploannex. The idea is interesting. Doggerland 2.0?

 

[dav77-b]

In my england game iI usally own most dutch provinces. If it is only about base tax it should be possible as england doesnt hase high base tax. I can sell provinces to northumberland and scotland ( if they are my vassal) and release cornwale/wales too and sell them provinces.
Why do I want to do that? The dutch ideas are nice 50% more navy forcelimit ftw

 

[Incompetent]

In my england game iI usally own most dutch provinces. If it is only about base tax it should be possible as england doesnt hase high base tax. I can sell provinces to northumberland and scotland ( if they are my vassal) and release cornwale/wales too and sell them provinces.
Why do I want to do that? The dutch ideas are nice 50% more navy forcelimit ftw

It's about number of provinces.

If you want to play as Netherlands, why start as England? I'd have thought Burgundy -> Netherlands is more straightforward.

 

[Huneymunster]

It's about number of provinces.

If you want to play as Netherlands, why start as England? I'd have thought Burgundy -> Netherlands is more straightforward.

Maybe he wants to control all trade provinces in the English channel without having to take on England to do so. Also I would think England provides a safer option against France.

 

[RobRoy3]

Yes, you should be able to culture-shift. You need to put your capital in a Dutch-culture province and make Dutch the 'dominant' culture. I think you will need to get rid of most of your English provinces to do this, as England starts with more English provinces than the total number of Dutch provinces in existence.

Dutch may not be an option, they are all in the Empire. And, IIRC, you can't move your capital to the HRE, if you're an outsider.

Flemish might be an option, I think there are almost as many Flemish provinces as Dutch, and Flemish should work for forming Netherlands.

Still think it's not worth it.

 

[IIWW]

Dutch may not be an option, they are all in the Empire. And, IIRC, you can't move your capital to the HRE, if you're an outsider.

Flemish might be an option, I think there are almost as many Flemish provinces as Dutch, and Flemish should work for forming Netherlands.

Still think it's not worth it.

You can remove a province from HRE.

 

[AllezFlex]

Speaking of Flemish. Does anything change if you form the Netherlands with Flemish as primary culture?

 

[RobRoy3]

You can remove a province from HRE.

Oh, right. Guess Dutch works fine, then, if you REALLY want those ideas. Granted England's are underwhelming, but I can't imagine this switch being worth the considerable cost and hassle.

Speaking of Flemish. Does anything change if you form the Netherlands with Flemish as primary culture?

Not really. Just have five provinces rather than six sharing your primary.

<EDIT> Actually, I think there's the Calvinist event sequence that depends on being dutch (or french). Not sure that's good or bad, though.

 

[dav77-b]

I did it with founding a client stat!. he got enough english provinces so I could switch to dutch -> founded netherland

This works ofc only after you unlocked them. But this allows you to have 50% more navy forcelimits + 2 more merchants

 

[AllezFlex]

Alright thanks. Will look into it if events and decisions remain the same. There is a certain charm to paint the world flemish instead of dutch.