England in 1941 with 17k-26k fighters

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They had 500k in their airforce. Also the German ai is not using its arirplanes against russia might have something to do with lack of fuel and russia had 500 planes. I was greater Hungary and I was basicially helping out the axis on all fronts. I had to guard italy for Italy normandy greece and balkan coastline, because the italians and the rest where to dumb to guard anything. Also ai is invading in illogical places like montenegro. I wasnt fighting on the eastern front until 1944. The german ai had not even conquered Kiev. I then took 3 armies 20 wth 7 2 and crushed the russian center (russia till that point had lost 8-10 (dont recall). By the end in 1946 we had killed 18 million. I mean cmon the german ai did not even manage to take the balticum. And thats with me taking greece for them and guarding the coast and russia with 0 planes.
Italy lost a million man in ehtopia, dont know how they get any supply there but apparantley they do... North africa was lost first month of the war.
The best part was Japan loosing in china and then attacking allies and sunddenly winning easily, took all the islands there and malaysia. But yunnan took indochina(messy). The allied lost over 10million but did still continue with naval invasions. (you should make the slower for ai I mean we wait 70 days the insta spawn also make the ai not attack the same point twice in like 2 months).
And pls for the love of good limit the ai fro, building more than 10000 planes ( I had 1500 fully fighter 3s with all upgrades and I wasnt shure that I killed them)because in 46 they had over 26k.
 

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Did you buff the AI or play on high difficulty? I've never seen the AI build 25k planes that early, ever. Maybe in '45, but never '41. Usually in 1941, AI England has maybe 5-10k fighters on regular difficulty, depending on how many they lost in the battle for France or if a Battle of Britain happened.
 
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Did you buff the AI or play on high difficulty? I've never seen the AI build 25k planes that early, ever. Maybe in '45, but never '41. Usually in 1941, AI England has maybe 5-10k fighters on regular difficulty, depending on how many they lost in the battle for France or if a Battle of Britain happened.
I did not on regular I wantet to observe how the axis does without me doing much. But they lost also a lot against Italy in Africa (well not the north ^^). So I was kind of amazed to see that. Germany had a max of 6k-8k planes also did not buy any aluminium from me so I was dissapointed as well ^^ ai is great at buyying from randoms. In the peace deal I somehow got all of Caucasus are and everything behind the Ural and North sea coastline with 20 percent conrtibution. Was a weird but normal game super weak Germany.
 

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Haven´t fought against UK. Only against the Navy in the first Steps of 2WW. So I can´t say anything about the level of fighters they have. But in the next Patch / Patches (1.10 / 1.11) and DLC / DLC´s ???? we will get a second Refit for the Airforce and a first big for the Army.
 

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I've never seen the AI build 25k planes that early, ever. Maybe in '45, but never '41.
The number i see in the initial posting is 26k planes (not fighters) in 1946.
If you don't contest them and let them import any Rubber the need, I'd say that is possible. They put a big part of their MILs on planes. With high efficiency you can produce a lot...

So maybe the title is misleading...
@Vin55 : Which number is correct? 26k Fighters in 1941 or 26k Planes in 1946?
 

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The number i see in the initial posting is 26k planes (not fighters) in 1946.
If you don't contest them and let them import any Rubber the need, I'd say that is possible. They put a big part of their MILs on planes. With high efficiency you can produce a lot...

So maybe the title is misleading...
@Vin55 : Which number is correct? 26k Fighters in 1941 or 26k Planes in 1946?
In my most recent run, I was doing the achievements for Austria Hungary. From my full Intel on the British, in 1944 they had 105 factories on planes, but still only had about 7000 fighters before I started grinding them down.
 

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100 Factories with 80% efficiency and concentrated 4 can do 15k Fighter 3s in 2 years. (If you let them...)

(4.5 * 1.6 * 0.8 * 100 * 365 * 2 = 420.480 / 28 =~ 15017)

And there are several more modifiers like free trade, stability, concentrated 5 is a 1943 tech, efficiency can go higher...
 
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Yep atm that can happen. And UK have to help her Colonys, that´s why it has so a such high Production Potential. It´s making a big Lend-Lease to them to reduce their Autonimy-Status.
 

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They had over 17k in 41 never saw such a number. Tbf as Germany I Sea-Lion because allied ai is just super annoying with invasions. So they dont live past 1940. But this just shows that you really need an officier pool for airplanes and armies andif you dont have enough (aka Russia in 1941) your efficency goes down aka organisation and fighting strenght or defence. (Germany should start with an advantage in that area compared to its army size but if you losse units u should also losse them) and over time it should adjust.