England, historically, divided by religion, map?

[Pellaken]

Finding one of these is easy

Finding one of these is a bit harder

but finding one for England seems near impossible. I'm wondering if anyone can help.

 

[Pellaken]

The best I can find is stuff like this

or this

neither of which shows a "dividing line" like the above two.

This does

but given their horrible half-effort attempts in the rest of europe, I don't know how seriously I can take it.





The best I can do is apply another dividing like, often called the "real" divide of England

and

 

[Gordy]

You won't find any such map because England went from being Catholic to Anglican pretty quickly and there were no regions that "held out" as Catholic. As the maps above show, you get a minor Catholic stronghold in Lancashire but even there they were a distinct minority.

There was a minor Protestant revolution later on when industrial areas (generally the north) moved strongly towards the non-conformist churches (Protestant but not Anglican) which were tolerated but again I don't think any area of England had a non-conformist majority.

The diagonal line running from about Bristol to Grimsby in the piccy above is a nonsense in any sense other than economic. It essentially defines the North as "all the poor bits minus Cornwall" which is just silly as it ignores accent, way of life, identity etc.

 

[JCan]

The diagonal line running from about Bristol to Grimsby in the piccy above is a nonsense in any sense other than economic. It essentially defines the North as "all the poor bits minus Cornwall" which is just silly as it ignores accent, way of life, identity etc.

I think it is simply intended as a generic, all factors encompassed North/South divide.

I motion, that a 2nd line be drawn from the mouth of the River Welland going south down to Spalding, Cambridge and finally moving east along the Suffolk/Essex border to create a North/South/East divide.
I will not be considered 'Northern' or 'Southern'. Eastern is what I am.

 

[Gordy]

I think it is simply intended as a generic, all factors encompassed North/South divide.

It might be but it's terrible. Actually it is far beyond terrible. It's simply based on terrain type and nothing else.

 

[JCan]

It might be but it's terrible. Actually it is far beyond terrible. It's simply based on terrain type and nothing else.

It's not great. I don't think it's simply based on 'terrain type though'. It's just an attempt at a generic divide - for when people refer to Northern / Southern in general. Similar to when people say "anything North of Watford Gap is 'Northern' " or the like.

 

[Gordy]

It's not great. I don't think it's simply based on 'terrain type though'. It's just an attempt at a generic divide - for when people refer to Northern / Southern in general. Similar to when people say "anything North of Watford Gap is 'Northern' " or the like.

It is. The argument is that the soil north of the line is inferior to that south of the line and this has characterised the development of the two halves of England ever since. That bit isn't too shabby.

The nonsense is that economics is just one aspect of the north / south divide. The north isn't just "the poor bit"; there are linguistic and cultural aspects as well.

 

[JCan]

It is. The argument is that the soil north of the line is inferior to that south of the line and this has characterised the development of the two halves of England ever since. That bit isn't too shabby.

The nonsense is that economics is just one aspect of the north / south divide. The north isn't just "the poor bit"; there are linguistic and cultural aspects as well.

Fair enough. So you're saying (I'm not disagreeing with you by the way) essentially it comes down to the contrast in historic arable/livestock areas of the country as a starting point, and then any varying factors tacked onto that foundation?

 

[Gordy]

Fair enough. So you're saying (I'm not disagreeing with you by the way) essentially it comes down to the contrast in historic arable/livestock areas of the country as a starting point, and then any varying factors tacked onto that foundation?

Pretty much. The south (bar Cornwall) had better agricultural lands and was thus richer. The north was more hilly which generally made it poorer but was suddenly an advantage during the industrial revolution. Much of the north-south divide is a consequence of that.

However differences in accents, climate and preferences for flat versus creamy beer has little or nothing to do with the above and that's why that map should be taken away and burnt.

 

[JCan]

Just saw this:
http://www.theguardian.com/cities/d...ps-uk-godless-cities-religion-census-data-viz

Where do atheists live? Maps show the 'godless' cities of England and Wales

So I've resurrected this thread.

 

[Teutonic_Thrash]

If I'm reading it right, only 21.2% of people in my area are non-religious.

 

[JCan]

If I'm reading it right, only 21.2% of people in my area are non-religious.

18.1% for me.

 

[Teutonic_Thrash]

18.1% for me.

You poor sod
Excellent find by the way. I've just found out that there are people who speak Swedish in my town.

 

[JCan]

You poor sod
Excellent find by the way. I've just found out that there are people who speak Swedish in my town.

I know, I know.
Oh? I haven't looked into the other data sets. Interesting.

 

[Wagonlitz]

You poor sod
Excellent find by the way. I've just found out that there are people who speak Swedish in my town.

Interesting. Damn Swedes for being better represented in London than Danes; at least we beat the Norwegians.

 

[The Super Pope]

Fun fact, on the birminghm map if you alternate Muslim and non-religion, you get a very neat colour flip

 

[Teutonic_Thrash]

:rofl: I'm seeing people who identify as "Jedi Knight" in my town. A strange thing I've noticed though is that hardly anyone identifies as atheist or agnostic but rather as "No religion".

 

[JCan]

Seven questions that will tell you how well you know your local area

http://www.theguardian.com/news/dat...ll-tell-you-how-well-you-know-your-local-area

Apparently I am 41% familiar with the demographics of where I live. Is that worrying? I don't know.

 

[Teutonic_Thrash]

http://www.theguardian.com/news/dat...ll-tell-you-how-well-you-know-your-local-area

Apparently I am 41% familiar with the demographics of where I live. Is that worrying? I don't know.

My local knowledge of Bucklow-St Martins is 57%.

 

[cacra]

:rofl: I'm seeing people who identify as "Jedi Knight" in my town. A strange thing I've noticed though is that hardly anyone identifies as atheist or agnostic but rather as "No religion".

Also, a lot of people will say they don't believe in God but describe themselves as 'Christian.'