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I agree with the 'Evil Capitalist' that surely the whole point of the game is to see what might happen. I can see that history must have a part but there must be an alternative otherwise you might just as well pick up a history book.
 

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There are alternatives.

The US can either push for annexation of the historical area of Oregon, push for annexation of a greater area, or not push at all. England can either accept or reject the US' demand.

I believe in historically plausible alternatives. EC is advocating a historically implausible alternative.
 

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wondered if theres an event for ` Report on the Affairs of British North America ´ in 1839 by Lord John Durham , Canada's governor - general. This report recommended that responsible government (the acceptance by governors of the advice of local ministers) should be granted to Upper Canada (Ontario) and Lower Canada (Quebec), which should be merged into one.

This should boost stability in the region for a certain time like 12 months+ or put rebels % down for a time. i posted this here cos Canada isnt independant at this time.

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Tried to make a code, needs a good luck at lol, just leave it if rubbish

Code:
event = { 
id = xxxx 
trigger = {} 
random = no 
country = ENG 
name = "` Report on the Affairs of  British  North America ´" 
desc = "Lord Durham arrived in Canada in 1838 in an atmosphere
 tainted by political unrest. With both Upper and Lower Canada 
in a state of turmoil, Britain had sent Durham to investigate the 
grievances held by the citizens in each of the colonies. Durham's 
mandate was to determine the cause of their discontent and 
report back to the Imperial parliament in London. This report
 among with other goals recommended that responsible 
government (the acceptance by governors of the advice of local 
ministers) should be granted to Upper Canada (Ontario) and 
Lower Canada (Quebec), which should be merged into one.  The 
merge took place immediately" 
style = 1 
date = { day = 1 month = july year = 1839 } 
offset = 150 deathdate = { day = 2 month = may year = 1849 } 
action_a ={ name = "Good Job" 
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = x value = y }
 } 
}
 
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ahhh while goin throu lookin and writtin down events in the thread so i can find new ones its already in soz, though mine has a little bit of history in. ill fined something else to put in, and make sure its not already in. sorry for the inconveniance.
 
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Ahh ok some new events which arnt on i checked, but if they are just tell me. Ive code them they just need checkin and given IDs,
wudbe good to hav the Eng events file to see what is actually there, so i dont repeat any events.

may need to hav a quick look through~

Code:
###################################
########More English Additional Events######## 
############By Kevyn Taylor############# 
################################### 

event = { 
id = XxXxXx 
random = no 
country = ENG 
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1834 } 
offset = 0 
name = "Grand National Consolidated Trades Union" 
desc = "First large scale British trade union  founded 1834 by
Robert Owen as a broad - based coalition of working people. Its
aim of a general strike to force an eight - hour working day
provoked harsh government reaction, including the sentencing of
the Tolpuddle Martyrs to transportation, it quickly gained
800,000 people but the movement collapsed by October." 
style = 5 
action_a = { 
name = "Unions eh.." 
command = { type = stability   value = -1 }
} 
} 




event = { 
id = XxXxXx 
random = no 
country = ENG 
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1839 } 
offset = 0 
name = "Rebecca Riots" 
desc = "They were primarily a protest against toll charges on
public roads, but were also a symptom of general unrest 
following the  Poor Law  Amendment Act of 1834, which made
obtaining poor relief much harder. The rioters, many disguised as
women, destroyed the tollhouses and gates. Each leader was
known as `Rebecca´ and followers were `her daughters´."
style = 5 
action_a = { 
name = "Revolts....revolts....." 
command = { type = stability   value = -1 }
command = { type = revolt   which = 243 }
command = { type = population   which = 243 value = -200 }
} 
} 




event = { 
id = XxXxXx 
random = no 
country = ENG 
date = { day = 1 month = june year = 1844 } 
offset = 0 
name = "Co-Operative Movement" 
desc = "The banding together of groups of people for mutual 
assistance in trade, manufacture, the supply of credit, housing, or
other services. The original principles of the cooperative  
movement  were laid down 1844 by the Rochdale Pioneers in
Rochdale, Lancashire, under the influence of Robert Owen, and
by Charles Fourier in France."
style = 5 
action_a = { 
name = "The more the merrier"
command = { type = stability   value = 1 }
command = { type = trade   value = 250 }
} 
} 


event = { 
id = XxXxXx 
random = no 
country = ENG 
date = { day = 1 month = july year = 1850 } 
offset = 0 
name = "New Model Unions" 
desc = "Formed by skilled workers: members pay a weekly
subscription and in return are paied sickness and old age 
benifits. These skilled workers are well paid. These unions aim to
work with and not against the employers."
style = 5 
action_a = { 
name = "Respect at last"
command = { type = inflation   value = -2 }
command = { type = trade   value = 100 }
} 
} 


event = { 
id = XxXxXx 
random = no 
country = ENG 
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1863 } 
offset = 0 
name = "London Underground" 
desc = "The first  underground  line in the world was in  London ,
opened in 1863; it was essentially a roofed - in trench. The
London  Underground is still the longest, with over 400 km / 250
miles of routes."
style = 5 
action_a = { 
name = "An underground Railwayline?"
command = { type = cash   value = 100 }
} 
} 


event = { 
id = XxXxXx 
random = no 
country = ENG 
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1877 } 
offset = 0 
name = "Emperess of India" 
desc = "In 1877, Benjamin Disraeli, then prime minister, made
Queen Victoria Empress of India. Her new empire  included 
present - day India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, and most of
Burma. In the nearby Maldive Islands were annexed soon later."
style = 5 
action_a = { 
name = "Queen Victorea of Great Britain, Emperess of India"
command = { type = stability   value = 2 }
} 
} 



event = { 
id = XxXxXx 
random = no 
country = ENG 
date = { day = 1 month = may year = 1889 } 
offset = 0 
name = "Dockers Strike" 
desc = "Following the Matchmakers Strike of 1888 London 
dockers staged a strike on the working conditions at the docks. 
The strike itself parylised the docks. But the dockers thenselfs 
suffered great hardship. But many were on their side like major 
newspapers such as "The Times" After 4 weeks obitter struggle 
the employers agreed to almost all of the dockers demands."
style = 5 
action_a = { 
name = "Dont risk it"
command = { type = trade   value = 100 }
command = { type = inflation   value = 1 }
command = { type = cash   value = -300 }

}
action_b ={ 
name = "Let them Strike"
command = { type = revoltrisk   which = 1 value = 4 }
command = { type = inflation   value = -5 }
command = { type = cash   value = 150 }
} 
} 


event = { 
id = XxXxXx 
random = no 
country = ENG 
date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1900 } 
offset = 0 
name = "Co-Op over 1,500,000 members" 
desc = ""
style = 5 
action_a = { 
name = "So many!!"
command = { type = cash   value = 200 }
command = { type = trade   value = 200 }
} 
} 


event = { 
id = XxXxXx 
random = no 
country = ENG 
date = { day = 1 month = august year = 1900 } 
offset = 0 
name = "The Imperial Capital" 
desc = "In 1900 London was regarded as the greatest city in the
world. It was certainly the largest. In 1801 1 million people lived
their by 1901 7 million lived their. London was also the heart of
the British Empire, the largest Empire ever. Many people thought
London represented the pinacle of human achievement and 
everything was best about life.  It was said at the time, if your 
bored of London then your bored of life."
style = 5 
action_a = { 
name = "So you bored of life then?"
command = { type = cash   value = 200 }
command = { type = trade   value = 200 }
} 
} 


event = { 
id = XxXxXx 
random = no 
country = ENG 
date = { day = 1 month = may year = 1905 } 
offset = 0 
name = "Militant Suffragette Campaign" 
desc = "The women's suffrage bills were repeatedly introduced
and defeated in Parliament between 1886 and 1911, and a 
militant campaign was launched in 1906 by Emmeline  Pankhurst 
and her daughters. 

Suffragettes  (the term was coined by a  Daily Mail  reporter) 
chained themselves to railings, heckled political meetings, refused
to pay taxes, and in 1913 bombed the home of Lloyd George,
then Chancellor of the Exchequer. One woman, Emily  Davison , 
threw herself under the King's horse at the Derby horse race in
1913 and was killed. Many  suffragettes  were imprisoned and 
were force - fed when they went on hunger strike ;  under the 
notorious ` Cat and Mouse Act ´ of 1913 "
style = 5 
action_a = { 
name = "Silly Women"
command = { type = cash   value = -400 }
command = { type = stability   value = -2 }
} 
} 



event = { 
id = XxXxXx 
random = no 
country = ENG 
date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1911 } 
offset = 0 
name = "Parliament Act 1911" 
desc = "A statute severely curtailing the power of the House of 
Lords and asserting the primacy of the House of Commons. The
act was fiercely resisted and only received the Lords' assent 
when King George V agreed to create sufficient Liberal peers to 
force it through. "
style = 5 
action_a = { 
name = "Agree with the King, pass the Act!"
command = { type = stability   value = 2 }
command = { type = cash   value = -500 }
command = { type = domestic   which = aristocracy value = -2 } 

}
action_b ={ 
name = "Why change something which isnt broken eh, Act fails"
command = { type = domestic   which = aristocracy value = 1 } 
command = { type = inflation   value = -5 }
command = { type = cash   value = 150 }
} 
}
 
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I excluded the first union event, it's already there.
About the Empress of India events, I find that one really interesting, not in its current form, but as an idea. I edited it a bit so you actually need to own all of India before that event triggers, and when it does trigger, I think we should add some nice benefits (CB shields, reduced province revoltrisk or whatever). Any ideas?
 

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Originally posted by Styrbiorn
I excluded the first union event, it's already there.
About the Empress of India events, I find that one really interesting, not in its current form, but as an idea. I edited it a bit so you actually need to own all of India before that event triggers, and when it does trigger, I think we should add some nice benefits (CB shields, reduced province revoltrisk or whatever). Any ideas?

I thought it could be a good point to use, but i didnt know what happeneds around their. You could do that which u did and make her emperess when the whole of india is capured and then hav CB against the rest of the territory she is suposed to be emperess over, or u could make her emperess anyway and hav a CB against all the parts of she is suposed to own, even if they include european powers. but definatly put revolt risk down you do say from time to time GB is pelted with revolts. also maybe if u havnt given the indian/hindu religion to GB then maybe u could then because she is emperess.


just wondered if the Poor Law Amendment Act of 1834 is in, and it could hav a choice to pass it and if u dont things like the Rebbecca Riots dont happen. Also is their anythin about Dr Livingstone in Africa?
 
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Just the amendment if their is a poor law ammendment to hav the clause if u say no to it the rebecca riots dont occur, need to put the reb. riots id in also as u know.

Code:
event = { 
id = XxXxXx 
random = no 
country = ENG 
date = { day = 1 month = march year = 1834 } 
offset = 0 
name = "Poor Law Ammendment Act" 
desc = "Poor law was reformed in the 19th century. After the
Royal Commission on the Poor Law of 1834 , `outdoor´ relief for
able - bodied paupers was abolished and replaced by  
workhouses run by unions of parishes. Conditions in such
workhouses were designed to act as a deterrent for all but the
genuinely destitute"
style = 5 
action_a = { 
name = "Pass the Law"
command = { type = revoltrisk   which = 24 value = 2 }
command = { type = cash   value = 250}

}
action_b ={ 
name = "Lets not bother"
command = { type = cash   value = -121}
command = { type = revoltrisk   which = 24 value = -2 }
command = { type = sleepevent   which = xXxXxXx } 
} 
}
 
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hmmmm...never got bak to me, anyway below is the Livingstone
event if you dont have one.

About the 'Emp. of India event' I do think it wud be a good
opertunity to giv the uk a rite to india culture if it hasnt already
done. i dont think it should only be done if you control all of india
cos britain never controlled the whole of india especially not in
1877. maybe CBz like i sed above to all the land within the
Emperess of India Realm ~ present day India, Pakistan, Sri
Lanka, Bangladesh, and most of Burma ( & the Maldive Islands if
in game). Oh and one more thing n the Opium Wars event, does
it hav the anexing of Hong Kong? just wondered.

anyway the doc code

Code:
event = { 
id = XxXxXx 
random = no 
country = ENG 
date = { day = 1 month = october year = 1841 }
offset = 0 
deathdate = { day = 1 month = october year = 1871 }  
name = "Dr David Livingstone" 
desc = "Scottish missionary explorer. In 1841 he went to Africa,
reaching Lake Ngami in 1849. He followed the Zambezi to its
mouth, saw and named the Victoria Falls in 1855, and went to 
East and Central Africa 1858-64, reaching Lakes Shirwa and 
Nyasa. From 1866, he tried to find the source of the River Nile, 
and reached Ujiji in Tanganyika in November 1871.

Livingstone not only mapped a great deal of the African continent
but also helped to end the Arab slave trade."
style = 5 
action_a = { 
name = "Send me a postcard"
command = { type = missionaries   value = 4 }
command = { type = conversion   which = -1 }
command = { type = conversion   which = -1 }

}
}
 
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im sure its uposed to be in...then again no "abolished slavery" event came up, so this must either be an old events file, or we seriouslt need more event, im guna check the events file see wat we've got
 

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All British Events

Code:
[COLOR=blue]
Flavor_eng

Isambard Kingdom Brunel		19280	1845	

Major_eng

Lord Bentnick			15181	1828	
Doctrine of Lapse		15182	1848	
The Indian Mutiny		15183	1857	
The Indian Mutiny Worsens	15184	1857/09	
The Indian Mutiny is broken	15185	1858/60	
The Indian Mutiny Ends		15186	1860	
The Indian Mutiny Ends		15187	1860	
Admittance of Labour Unions	15188	1824/30	
Founding of Army of Salvation	15189	1878/80	
National Congress in India	15191	1885/90	
Abolition of Corn Laws		15192	1846/48	
World Exposition of 1851	15193	1851	
Founding of Labour Re. Committe	15194	1900/01	
3rd Reform Bill			15195	1867/68	
Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels	15196	1848/49	
Karl Marx writes Das Kapital	15197	1867/68	
Penny Black			15198	1840	
The Great Trek			15190	1835/70	
The Great Trek			15199	1835/70	
The Great Trek			15200	1835/70	
The Great Trek			19276	1835/70	
Spanish-French Marriage		19277	1846/55	
Smuggled Rubber			19278	1836/??	
Fisher's Naval Reforms		19281	1904	
Fisher's Naval Reforms		19282	1904	
The War Office Reforms		19283	1903/13	
Northcote-Trevelyan reforms	19285	1854/90	
Singapore			19286	1870/00	
Welsh Industry			19287	1845/00	
Pahang				19290	N/A	
#The Dominion of Canada#	19288	1867/14	
#The Dominion of Australia# 	19289	1901	
Oudh				19404	N/A	
Report of British North America	19405	1839/49	
Poor Law Ammendment Act		19415	1834	
Rebecca Riots 			19406	1839/49	
Co-Operative Movement		19407	1844	
New Model Unions		19408	1850	
London Underground		19409	1863	
Emperess of India		19410	1870/??	
Dockers Strike			19411	1889	
The Imperial Capital		19412	1900	
Militant Suffragette Campaign	19413	1905	
Parliament Act 1911		19414	1911	[/color]

These are all the events for Great Britain in the flavor_eng and major_eng files. I kno theirs others in other files, but its called lazyness e.g. the corfu event.

Anywayz, any other new event ideas then the ones above will be welcomed, i dont mind scrpting and testing them. Also im changing a few of the descriptions in the major_eng file so ill compile the lot and test them b4 sending them to Styrbiorn.

oh yea Styrbiorn/anyone who knows which ID tags for Britain are free? I have about 10+ events im scripting and more on its way, and want to test them out. ill post the events here when ive scripted them.
 
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These are the current events I am scripting which i need ID's to test them ;):

Michael Faraday #some famous person i remember*
Darwin #his adventrues on HMS Beegle
Darwin #published "Origin of Species"
Charles Dickens #writes Oliver, becomes well known writer*
Edward Bransfield #first to sight antartic mainland*
Robert Falcon scott #Scotts Expadition
Sir Alexander Flemming #Discovered antibiotics
Florence Nightingale #the perfect nurse
Dr Livingstone (event is above) #missionary explorer*
The Irish Famine #a reason the irish hate us english
The Peoples petition #chartism
Reform Bill 1932 #err...reform*
RMS Titanic #sinking
Treaty of London #Belgium Neutrality*
Defend and Protect young Queen Maria of Portugal #1826
Abolition of Slavery throughout the British Empire Act #1834
Annexation of the Falklands Islands #Expeling and resettleing
Others I cant remember to place here #lazyness :p***

*complete

Possible#

Dominion of Newfoundland event
Dominion of New Zealand event
Union of South Africa event

Correcting:
My game event discriptions looked distorted, undistorted,
Emperess of India event need more outcomes, like discussed above. If Newfoundland to be created Dominion of Canada event editing.
 
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Does anyone know any British event ID's which are free?, or any in general which i can use to test these events out I have made so far. I need around 10-15 ID's
 

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Check the Grand ID thread and the ENG file for free ID's.

As for testing ID's, there are no constraints on the ID values (as long as it's not unreasonably large), AFAIK. So pick something way out of the range of everything else like 80000.
 

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Extra events

I am a bit of a newbie ;) but having read the thread I have a couple of extra suggestions for events:

Ilberts Bill: February 1883
At the request of the Indian Viceroy the Marquess of Ripon, a bill was drawn up which gave equal rights in the legislature to Indians, this would have allowed Indian Judges and Magistrates to try whites.

No. We cannot suffer to be ruled by savages.
Revolt risk +2 in India
bad relations with any independant Indian states

Yes we must pass it, the educated Indian's are our equals.

All hindu Indian provinces become British Core provinces and Britain gains Indian culture

Rather than have the Emperess of India event give Britain Indian culture it could be given as a result of Ilberts Bill.

If the Bill is passed you could have:

The Traders Mutiny: October 1883.
Led by J.J.J. 'King' Keswick of Jardine Skinner & Co the British traders rebel and try to kidnap the Viceroy.
Revolts in Bombay and Calcutta

failing to pass Ilberts Bill you get:

The Indian National Congress 1887.
Failure to give Indians equality with their white overlords caused great resentment by 1887 it was clear that the Indian National Congress was not acting as a safety valve for nationalist sentiment but was in fact encouraging it across the whole of India.
Nationalism +2 if thats possible?

Other non Indian events:

Stock markets:

Growing power of the Stock markets
During the 1820s the London Stock Exchange became the rival to Paris as the largest Bourse in the World, with the help of the powerful merchant banking families Britain was able to borrow more money at lower rates of interest to finance it's wars and expansion.

Loans set to 1000 ducats
Tax value +1 in Anglia

Financial might of London

In the 1870s London finally overtook then dwarfed
Paris as the international financial capital. Close ties between the Government and the Stock market allowed for lower interest rates and inflation whilst the powerful and rich banking family the Rothschilds gave the Government access to vast new sources of revenue, allowing massive spending deficits to be run during war time.

Inflation -15
Loans upto 5000 ducats
Tax value +2 in Anglia

The Suez Purchase: Novemeber 1875
With the Egyptian Khedive now bankrupt we can purchase a 49% stake in the Suez canal guaranteeing British interests in the region.

Gives tax value +1 in Anglia to represent the continuing growth in value of the shares and dividends and CB shields across all of Egypt, to represent the reasons for future British adventures in Egypt.
 

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Re: Extra events

Originally posted by valisk
I am a bit of a newbie ;) but having read the thread I have a couple of extra suggestions for events:

Ilberts Bill: February 1883
At the request of the Indian Viceroy the Marquess of Ripon, a bill was drawn up which gave equal rights in the legislature to Indians, this would have allowed Indian Judges and Magistrates to try whites.

No. We cannot suffer to be ruled by savages.
Revolt risk +2 in India
bad relations with any independant Indian states

Yes we must pass it, the educated Indian's are our equals.

All hindu Indian provinces become British Core provinces and Britain gains Indian culture

Rather than have the Emperess of India event give Britain Indian culture it could be given as a result of Ilberts Bill.

If the Bill is passed you could have:

The Traders Mutiny: October 1883.
Led by J.J.J. 'King' Keswick of Jardine Skinner & Co the British traders rebel and try to kidnap the Viceroy.
Revolts in Bombay and Calcutta

failing to pass Ilberts Bill you get:

The Indian National Congress 1887.
Failure to give Indians equality with their white overlords caused great resentment by 1887 it was clear that the Indian National Congress was not acting as a safety valve for nationalist sentiment but was in fact encouraging it across the whole of India.
Nationalism +2 if thats possible?

Other non Indian events:

Stock markets:

Growing power of the Stock markets
During the 1820s the London Stock Exchange became the rival to Paris as the largest Bourse in the World, with the help of the powerful merchant banking families Britain was able to borrow more money at lower rates of interest to finance it's wars and expansion.

Loans set to 1000 ducats
Tax value +1 in Anglia

Financial might of London

In the 1870s London finally overtook then dwarfed
Paris as the international financial capital. Close ties between the Government and the Stock market allowed for lower interest rates and inflation whilst the powerful and rich banking family the Rothschilds gave the Government access to vast new sources of revenue, allowing massive spending deficits to be run during war time.

Inflation -15
Loans upto 5000 ducats
Tax value +2 in Anglia

The Suez Purchase: Novemeber 1875
With the Egyptian Khedive now bankrupt we can purchase a 49% stake in the Suez canal guaranteeing British interests in the region.

Gives tax value +1 in Anglia to represent the continuing growth in value of the shares and dividends and CB shields across all of Egypt, to represent the reasons for future British adventures in Egypt.

could u re-post these in the AoN: Britain thread so i can add them2 the rest :) (the list of possible events are at the top of that thread) This thread is the old thread ;)

Edit: It would be good if a MOD could close this thread, and ammend St, Jaba's post with links. Changing the link to this thread to the link of AoN: Britain :) thanks.