England and its colonies...

unmerged(6603) · Mar 5, 2002

AoN: Great Britain

This thread will be dedicated to England... and its colonies... the biggest concern of mine at this point is that in order for a good number of my events to work, I need someone to script Canada... and create them...

in any case... post ideas, events, leaders, etc. here....

Thanks!

unmerged(6603) · Mar 5, 2002

Posted by Johnny Canuck

Here are a list of British Prime Ministers from 1820 to 1914:

Earl of Liverpool (Tory) - June 1812 to Mar. 1827
George Canning (Tory) - Apr. 1827 to July 1827
Viscount Goderich (Tory) - Aug. 1827 to Dec. 1827
Duke of Wellington (Tory) - Jan. 1828 to Oct. 1830
Earl Grey (Whig) - Nov. 1830 to June 1834
Viscount Melbourne (Whig) - July 1834 to Oct. 1834
Duke of Wellington (Tory) - Nov. 1834
Sir Robert Peel (Tory) - Dec. 1834 to Mar. 1835
Viscount Melbourne (Whig) - Apr. 1835 to Aug. 1841
Sir Robert Peel (Tory) - Sept. 1841 to June 1846
Lord John Russell (Whig) - July 1846 to Jan. 1852
Earl of Derby (Tory) - Feb. 1852 to Nov. 1852
Earl of Aberdeen (Whig/Peelite) - Dec. 1852 to Jan. 1855
Viscount Palmerston (Whig) - Feb. 1855 to Jan. 1858
Earl of Derby (Tory/Conservative) - Feb. 1858 to May 1859
Viscount Palmerston (Whig/Liberal) - June 1859 to Sept. 1865
Earl Russell [formerly Lord John Russell] (Whig/Liberal) - Oct. 1865 to May 1866
Earl of Derby (Tory/Conservative) - June 1866 to Jan. 1868
Benjamin Disraeli (Conservative) - Feb. 1868 to Nov. 1868
William Ewart Gladstone (Liberal) - Dec. 1868 to Jan. 1874
Benjamin Disraeli (Conservative) - Feb. 1874 to Mar. 1880
William Ewart Gladstone (Liberal) - Apr. 1880 to May 1885
Marquis of Salisbury (Conservative) - June 1885 to Jan. 1886
William Ewart Gladstone (Liberal) - Feb. 1886 to July 1886
Marquis of Salisbury (Conservative) - Aug. 1886 to July 1892
William Ewart Gladstone (Liberal) - Aug. 1892 to Feb. 1894
Earl of Rosebery (Liberal) - Mar. 1894 to May 1895
Marquis of Salisbury (Unionist) - June 1895 to June 1902
Arthur J. Balfour (Unionist) - July 1902 to Nov. 1905
Sir Henry Campbell-Bannerman (Liberal) - Dec. 1905 to Mar. 1908
Henry Herbert Asquith (Liberal) - Apr. 1908 to Apr. 1915

unmerged(6603) · Mar 5, 2002

Code:

########English Additional Events####### 
#####By Joe 'Lord Joseph' Hower##### 
################################### 


#The Peterloo Massacre#
event = {
	id = 10001
	trigger = {
		NOT = {
			domestic = { type = innovative value = 9 }
	}

	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME10001"
	desc = "EVENTHIST10001"
	style = 5

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1819 }
	offset = 360
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1820 }

	action_a ={					#What a tragedy!#
		name = "ACTIONNAME3706A"
		command = { type = stability value = -2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = -2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = 1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM value = -2 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 10002 }

	}
}

#Passage of the Six Acts#
event = {
	id = 10002
	trigger = {
		   event = 10001
	}

	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME10002"
	desc = "EVENTHIST10002"
	style = 5

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1819 }
	offset = 360
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1821

	action_a ={				#Pass Them!#
		name = "ACTIONNAME10002A"
		command = { type = stability = 1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY = 1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 24 value = 3 }
	}

	action_b ={				#Don't Pass Them#
		name = "ACTION10002B"
		command = { type = stability = 1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE = 1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY = -2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM = 1 }
	}
}

#Adam Smith Publishes "Wealth of Nations"#
event = {
	id = 10003
	trigger = {
		NOT = { exists = SCO }
	}

	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME10003"
	desc = "EVENTHIST10003"
	style = 4

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1776 }
	offset = 360
	deathdate = { day = a month = january year = 1777 }

	action_a ={				#Yay#
		name = ACTION10003A"
		command = { type = domestic which = MERCANTILISM = -2 }
		command = { type = merchants value = 5 }
		command = { type = trade value = 1000 }
	}
}

#John Stuart Mill publishes "Principles of Political Economy"#
event = {
	id = 10004
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME10004"
	desc = "EVENTHIST10004"
	stlye = 5

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1848 }
	offset = 360
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1849 }

	action_a ={				#Swell!#
		name = "ACTION10004A"
		command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE = 1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM = -1 }
	}
}

unmerged(6603) · Mar 5, 2002

Code:

#Canadian Uprising#
event = {
	id = 10005
	trigger = {
	      AND = {
		exists = USA
			OR = {
				owned = { province = 092 value = -1 }
				owned = { province = 096 value = -1 }
				owned = { province = 097 value = -1 }
				owned = { province = 098 value = -1 }
				owned = { province = 105 value = -1 }
				owned = { province = 106 value = -1 }
				owned = { province = 107 value = -1 }
				owned = { province = 108 value = -1 }
				owned = { province = 109 value = -1 }
				owned = { province = 110 value = -1 }
				owned = { province = 111 value = -1 }
				owned = { province = 113 value = -1 }
				owned = { province = 114 value = -1 }
				owned = { province = 115 value = -1 }
				owned = { province = 116 value = -1 }
				owned = { province = 117 value = -1 }
				owned = { province = 118 value = -1 }
				owned = { province = 119 value = -1 }
				owned = { province = 120 value = -1 }
				}
			}
		}

	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME10005"
	desc = "EVENTHIST10005"
	style = 5

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1837 }
	offset = 360
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1838 }

	action_a ={				#Fight Them!#
		name = "ACTION10005A"
		command = { type = revolt   which = 092 }	
		command = { type = revolt   which = 096 }	
		command = { type = revolt   which = 097 }	
		command = { type = revolt   which = 098 }
		command = { type = revolt   which = 105 }	
		command = { type = revolt   which = 106 }	
		command = { type = revolt   which = 107 }
		command = { type = revolt   which = 108 }	
		command = { type = revolt   which = 109 }	
		command = { type = revolt   which = 110 }	
		command = { type = revolt   which = 111 }	
		command = { type = revolt   which = 113 }	
		command = { type = revolt   which = 114 }	
		command = { type = revolt   which = 115 }	
		command = { type = revolt   which = 116 }	
		command = { type = revolt   which = 117 }	
		command = { type = revolt   which = 118 }	
		command = { type = revolt   which = 119 }	
		command = { type = revolt   which = 120 }		
		}

	action_b ={				#Grant their demands#
		name = "ACTION10005B"		
		command = { type = stability = -2
		}
}
		
#Lord Durham's Report#
event = {
	id = 10006
	trigger = {
		    event = 10005
	}

	ranodm = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME10006"
	desc = "EVENTHIST10006"
	style = 5

	action_a ={				#Grant Self-government#
		name = "ACTION10006A"
		command = { type = independence  which = CANADA } 
	}

	action_b ={				#No, they will Obey the Crown!#
		name = "ACTION10006B"
		command = { type = revoltrisk   which = 60 value = 5 }
	}

}	

##Some issues with this one, CANADA needs a tag and status as a revolter##

as I noted... issues with these events... We would need canada as a revolter, and then we could give them some events with regards to Quebec, which i can't speak for, so ideas would be appreciated...

CANADA= CAN was the tag that was suggested... we would have to eliminate the current country with CAN though...

anyone want to head up trying to create CAN as a revolter... we would need a shield for them and such too....

unmerged(6603) · Mar 5, 2002

Code:

#1830-1832 Parliment Reforms#
event = {
	id = 10007
	trigger = {
		     domestic = { type = ARISTOCRACY = 8 }
	}

	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME10007"
	desc = "EVENTHIST10007"
	style = 5

	action_a ={				#Grant greater representation#
		name = "ACTION10007A"
		command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY = -2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM = -2 }
		command = { type = stability = -2 }
	}

	action_b ={				#Do not grant greater representation#
		name = "ACTION10007B"
		command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY = 2 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 24 value 5 }				
		command = { type = stability = -1 }
	}
}

#Irish Potato famine#
event = {
	id = 10008
	trigger = {
		NOT = { exists = IRE }
	}

	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME10008"
	desc = "EVENTHIST10008"
	style = 5

	action_a ={					#Uh oh#
		name = "ACTION10008A"
		command = { type = population    which = 231 value -3000 }
		command = { type = population    which = 232 value -3000 }
		command = { type = population    which = 233 value -3000 }
		command = { type = population    which = 234 value -3000 }
		command = { type = population    which = 235 value -3000 }
		command = { type = revolt    which = 231 }
		command = { type = revolt    which = 232 }
		command = { type = revolt    which = 233 }
		command = { type = revolt    which = 234 }
		command = { type = revolt    which = 235 }
	}
}

unmerged(6603) · Mar 5, 2002

I also have general ideas written down for the Jamiacan Slave Rebellion, the Abolition of Slavery, Industrialization (should this be a major event? it hit england first, and the elimination of the slave trade... these cover through about ~1840....

are these worthy events?

unmerged(6603) · Mar 5, 2002

British Isles...
Angalia
Bristol
Cornwall
Kent
Lancashire
Lincoln
Midlands
Northumberland
Wales
Wessix
Yorkshire
Lothian
Strathclyde
The Grampians
The Highlands
Meath
Ulster
Munster
Connaught
Leinster

Canada
(too lazy to type them all out... is there any part they Didn't own in 1820?)

British Indian possessions... someone help me out here...

British Caribbean Possessions
Belize?
Mosquito Cost
Bahamas
Jamaica?

unmerged(6603) · Mar 5, 2002

British Indian Possessions:
Submitted by Ramo
Santal
Ganges
Howrah
Odisa
Berhampur
Pala Kimedi
Madras
Pondicherry
Madurai
Cochin
Kerala
Mangalore
Maharashtra
Bombay
Gujurat
Koch
Bihar
Tirmut
Awadh
Delhi
Chandighar
Khandesh
Jaffna
Colombo

I was under the impression some of these were owned by France... could any confirm or deny that?

Vulture · Mar 5, 2002

I'll let you know which provinces they own at the moment at startup

unmerged(6603) · Mar 8, 2002

The first perminent settlement in New Zealand was established in 1840... but they had establishments their before... for out purposes I think the British should get TPs in the New Zealand provinces.

unmerged(6603) · Mar 8, 2002

Code:

#Jamaican Slave Revolt#
event = {
	id = 10009
	trigger = {
		owned = { province = 140 data = -1 }
	}
	
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME10009"
	desc = "EVENTHIST10008"
	style = 5

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1831 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1832 }

	action_a ={
		name = "ACTION10009A"
		command = { type = revolt    which = 140 }
	}
}

#Abolition of Slavery#
event = {
	id = 10010
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME10010"
	desc = "EVENTHIST10010"
	style = 5

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1833 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1834 }

	action_a ={				#Let it be done!#

#incomplete, need good commands#

Ok... abolition of slavery... what do we do with it? I was thinking a population increase in the Caribean and Africa possessions to show them being free... and a negetive tax value in the other british possessions as a result of no slave for one action.. and if you chose to keep it, you get revolts in the related possessions, innovative -2, but we need some other positive?

EDIT: I also editted some small parts of other events... like the correct offsets and such... so don't use the ones out of here... when it gets time i will send the appropriate people the correct events.

unmerged(6603) · Mar 9, 2002

I'm giving this a bump because I need some input on more English events... yet to be scripted are some U.S.-British events.. but what else am I missing?

unmerged(6603) · Mar 10, 2002

Code:

#Oregon Territory#
event = {
	id = 28110
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME28110"
	desc = "EVENTHIST28110"
	style = 5

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1846 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1847 }

	action_a ={				#Grant Oregon to the USA#
		name = "ACTION28110A"
		command = { type = secedeprovince   which = USA value = 6 } 
		command = { type = secedeprovince   which = USA value = 7 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince   which = USA value = 1473 }
		command = { type = relation   which = USA value = 150 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 27509 }
	}

	action_b ={				#We will keep what is ours!#
		name = "ACTION28110B"
		command = { type = trigger which = 27510 }
	}
}

unmerged(6603) · Mar 10, 2002

Code:

#Oregon Territory Annexed by USA#
event = {
	id = 27509
	random = no
	country = USA
	name = "EVENTNAME27509"
	desc = "EVENTHIST27509"
	style = 5

	action_a ={				#Great#
		name = "ACTION27509A"
		command = { type = addcore   which = 6 } 
		command = { type = addcore   which = 7 } 
		command = { type = addcore   which = 1473 } 
		command = { type = relation   which = ENG value = 150 } 
	}
}

#Oregon Territory Refused by Great Britain#
event = {
	id = 27510
	random = no
	country = USA
	name = "EVENTNAME27510"
	desc = "EVENTHIST27510"
	style = 5

	action_a ={				#It will be ours!#
		name = "ACTION27510A"
		command = { type = addcore   which = 6 } 
		command = { type = addcore   which = 7 } 
		command = { type = addcore   which = 1473 }
		command = { type = relation   which = ENG value = -100 } 
	}

	action_b ={				#We will embrace our neighbors#
		name = "ACTION27510B"
		command = { type = relation   which = ENG value = 100 }
	}
}

unmerged(6603) · Mar 10, 2002

What I REALLY need is for someone to head up the leaders and monarchs. I need someone to give ratings to all of the Prime Ministers posted above, and I need any significant Military leaders to be rated... volunteers?

Johnny Canuck · Mar 14, 2002

Originally posted by Lord Joseph
What I REALLY need is for someone to head up the leaders and monarchs. I need someone to give ratings to all of the Prime Ministers posted above, and I need any significant Military leaders to be rated... volunteers?

I may be able to help a bit, but my time currently is rather tied up between work, EEP, & now NCAA basketball.

I will try to go over the list of British Prime Ministers for their ratings in the next couple of days (send me a PM if I forget), & maybe Canadian PMs too.

Johnny Canuck · Mar 14, 2002

Originally posted by Lord Joseph

Code:

#Canadian Uprising# event = { id = 10005 trigger = { AND = { exists = USA OR = { owned = { province = 092 value = -1 } owned = { province = 096 value = -1 } owned = { province = 097 value = -1 } owned = { province = 098 value = -1 } owned = { province = 105 value = -1 } owned = { province = 106 value = -1 } owned = { province = 107 value = -1 } owned = { province = 108 value = -1 } owned = { province = 109 value = -1 } owned = { province = 110 value = -1 } owned = { province = 111 value = -1 } owned = { province = 113 value = -1 } owned = { province = 114 value = -1 } owned = { province = 115 value = -1 } owned = { province = 116 value = -1 } owned = { province = 117 value = -1 } owned = { province = 118 value = -1 } owned = { province = 119 value = -1 } owned = { province = 120 value = -1 } } } } random = no country = ENG name = "EVENTNAME10005" desc = "EVENTHIST10005" style = 5 date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1837 } offset = 360 deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1838 } action_a ={ #Fight Them!# name = "ACTION10005A" command = { type = revolt which = 092 } command = { type = revolt which = 096 } command = { type = revolt which = 097 } command = { type = revolt which = 098 } command = { type = revolt which = 105 } command = { type = revolt which = 106 } command = { type = revolt which = 107 } command = { type = revolt which = 108 } command = { type = revolt which = 109 } command = { type = revolt which = 110 } command = { type = revolt which = 111 } command = { type = revolt which = 113 } command = { type = revolt which = 114 } command = { type = revolt which = 115 } command = { type = revolt which = 116 } command = { type = revolt which = 117 } command = { type = revolt which = 118 } command = { type = revolt which = 119 } command = { type = revolt which = 120 } } action_b ={ #Grant their demands# name = "ACTION10005B" command = { type = stability = -2 } } #Lord Durham's Report# event = { id = 10006 trigger = { event = 10005 } ranodm = no country = ENG name = "EVENTNAME10006" desc = "EVENTHIST10006" style = 5 action_a ={ #Grant Self-government# name = "ACTION10006A" command = { type = independence which = CANADA } } action_b ={ #No, they will Obey the Crown!# name = "ACTION10006B" command = { type = revoltrisk which = 60 value = 5 } } } ##Some issues with this one, CANADA needs a tag and status as a revolter##

as I noted... issues with these events... We would need canada as a revolter, and then we could give them some events with regards to Quebec, which i can't speak for, so ideas would be appreciated...

CANADA= CAN was the tag that was suggested... we would have to eliminate the current country with CAN though...

anyone want to head up trying to create CAN as a revolter... we would need a shield for them and such too....

For the Canadian uprising event, I think you have far too many revolts occurring. In Upper Canada, the "revolt" amounted to maybe a hundred semi-drunk farmers leaving a pub and "marching" on York. They fled at the first sign of resistance. It wasn't much better in Lower Canada. There should be one revolt triggered in Oshawa (if this is where York/Toronto is to be), & maybe three in Lower Canada (maybe Megantic, Hochelaga, & one other).

I also wouldn't have Lord Durham's Report give Canada independence. Canada certainly wasn't independent after 1840. All it did was remodelled the system of government by uniting Upper & Lower Canada, & make the executive responsible to the legislative branch. As far as I know, it involved no significant transfer of power from England to Canada. Even 1867 should only really make Canada appear as a vassal. Until the mid-20th century, they had no independent foreign policy, & the Canadian Army & Navy were non-existant until the First World War (see British Columbia's purchase of two submarines just prior to WWI).

Johnny Canuck · Mar 14, 2002

Originally posted by Lord Joseph
I'm giving this a bump because I need some input on more English events... yet to be scripted are some U.S.-British events.. but what else am I missing?

Ashburton Treaty (1842) - Set border between Maine & New Brunswick, plus established the 49 parallel from Lake of the Woods to the Rockies
Alaska Boundary Dispute (early 1900s) - Dispute over Alaskan Panhandle awarded in US favour by international tribunal

Other Possible Canadian Events:

The Two Metis Risings (1870 & 1885)
The Building of the Canadian Pacific Railway (1871-1885)
The Fenian Raids (1866)
Handing Over of Halifax & Esquimalt Naval Bases from UK to Canada (1904 to 1906)
Rise of Henri Bourassa in Quebec (early 1900s)
Merger of the Hudson's Bay Company & the Montreal North-West Fur Company (1821)

Possible British Events:

Second Reform Act (1867)
Third Reform Act (1884)
First Home Rule Crisis (1886)
Third Home Rule Crisis (1912-1914)
Great Exhibition (1851)
Lord Fisher's Naval Reforms (1902-1910)
Haldane's Army Reforms (early 1900s)
Construction of HMS Dreadnought (1904)
Repeal of the Corn Laws (1846)

Possible British Imperial Events:

Sepoy Mutiny (1857)
Australian Independence (1901)
First Boer War (1882)
Second Boer War (1899-1902)
Mahdist Rebellion in the Sudan (1884-1885)
Opium Wars (early 1840s)

unmerged(6603) · Mar 14, 2002

I'll tell you what... since you seem to know loads more on Canada than I... do you wanna write the events... I can send you what little I have... wait... I don't have any

I have the english sides of the events written... but I am working on USA events as we speak. I could use someone to take over on Canada, or even England for that matter.

unmerged(8325) · Mar 21, 2002

England and India

Hey this sounds like a really cool project, hope it's going well.

With regard to England and its colonies, there are a few events which would be cool to see with regards to British India.

Sepoy Mutiny (1857) - i dunno, rebellions in Bengal, Delhi, +5 rebellion for the next 24 months, -2 stab? kind of a watershed event for the Indians, so it should be pretty drastic.

Govt of India act (1858) - India was transferred directly under control of the British crown, instead of being governed by the East India Company. maybe a bunch of gold and relations with indian vassals/surrounding nations improve?

also during this time the Brits were tearing down Indian industry and making it just an exporter of primary products, like cotton and tea, instaed of those nice silk textiles and chinaware so that home industries in Lancashire could thrive - i dunno how to code that (i got a C in the one programming class i took), but maybe some event that'll put manufactories on the British Isles and that'll remove them from any Indian lands under British control....

I dunno if this is coded in the regular game (i haven't played Britain yet) but the Permanent Zamindari agreement is important (1793) - Basically private property was introduced into areas under British control, increasing revenue for the crown (but devastating Indians) - dunno if it's ipmortant enough to include, and I have no idea how to even reflect that in the game...

hope these ideas help!

England and its colonies...

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