Lambert Simnel said:However it is decided to treat the Saxons religiously, the Irish should be treated the same as they did not conform to Roman practices and Pope Adrian IV authorised king Henry II of England to invade Ireland so 'that the Christian religion may take root and grow' in Ireland.
Possibly there should be events that show Papal displeasure with Catholic Monastic Supremacy realms. (Are there any other Catholic Monastc supremicists other than Ireland and the possible Saxon England?)
I agree with this as well: What goes for the Anglo-Saxon church goes for Ireland and Wales, and most likely Scotland too. If the "Catholic" church only dates to the schism of the 1050's, then most likely the the Celtic realms, already on the fringe and with a tradition of independece from Rome- and indeed each other, would not be as "Catholic" as a Norman England. I can document plenty of cases where Welsh religious laws and civil laws were directly opposed to Rome, with a Roman-Catholic Church blessing the Norman kings of England in their invasions of Wales up to the Edwardian Conquest of the 1280's.
If orthadoxy (with a lower case o) here represents non-Roman Christian churches, then the Celtic and Anglo-Saxon Churches could be grouped here.