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I imagine this is not a thing because at some point the game's mechanic(techs, ideas, events) progression has to end and even if you are ok with that I would guess Paradox is not because it would undoubtedly effect people's perception of the game. There are probably other reasons for Paradox not wanting to do this like achievements, I mean being able to conquer the whole world is hardly difficult if you have unlimited time.

As you said anyway, this is available through mods, so why not just use them? Is it not also possible to de-ironman saves? so even if you wanted achievements you could play normally until you had gotten the achievement you wanted, then you could de-ironman the save and play it with the mod, which I assume would work if the mod ONLY changed the games end date.
 
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As you are the author of the extended vanilla Mod I can see obvious bias. If there was an option you would probably lose some of your patrons. The fact that there are MODs like this available only reinforces the need for the option to extend games beyond the normal timeline. There is nothing difficult about it. Just remove the end date and allow players to continue. Everything else stays the same. Just making it an option negatively impacts no one.
 
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I definitely agree. Its only a pro as those that wish to stop simply can and those that want to play on can also. civ V does something similar where the game technically ends when someone meets a victory condition but you can choose to play on just for fun even if theres not much content.
 

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If they do this they should make it impossible to get achievements after 1821.
 
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As you are the author of the extended vanilla Mod I can see obvious bias. If there was an option you would probably lose some of your patrons. The fact that there are MODs like this available only reinforces the need for the option to extend games beyond the normal timeline. There is nothing difficult about it. Just remove the end date and allow players to continue. Everything else stays the same. Just making it an option negatively impacts no one.
EVE does not extend the timeline of the game, extending the timeline or removing the official end of the game would have zero affect on my mod's popularity. Not like it matters anyway, I do not gain anything from people playing my mod, so why would I be consciously biased towards the status quo?

To pick up on your final statement, removing the end date and adding nothing else would affect peoples perception of the game in a negative way, maybe not for existing owners of EUIV but new ones for sure, which would ultimately be bad for Paradox.
 
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If they do this they should make it impossible to get achievements after 1821.

Obviously. The intention is just to have the option to play on for the fun of it.

To pick up on your final statement, removing the end date and adding nothing else would affect peoples perception of the game in a negative way, maybe not for existing owners of EUIV but new ones for sure, which would ultimately be bad for Paradox.

Is this just your opinion or do you have some hard evidence of what the outcome of adding this option will be?
 
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To pick up on your final statement, removing the end date and adding nothing else would affect peoples perception of the game in a negative way, maybe not for existing owners of EUIV but new ones for sure, which would ultimately be bad for Paradox.

That could be remedied just by having a screen saying that you've come to end of the game and the content pop up at the end date but saying that you could keep playing if you wish. It could even be a setting in the options which is disabled by default so as not to confuse new players but have the option available for experienced ones if they want it.
 
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As you are the author of the extended vanilla Mod I can see obvious bias.
The person you're addressing has corrected your misconception about their mod.

As far as the Extended Timeline mod goes, on the other hand, that extends the timeline backwards (to 1356 IIRC) as well as forwards, and adds flavour events for the times not covered by the standard EU4 timeline.

The vanilla game has no chronological flavour events past 1820.
 

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The person you're addressing has corrected your misconception about their mod.

As far as the Extended Timeline mod goes, on the other hand, that extends the timeline backwards (to 1356 IIRC) as well as forwards, and adds flavour events for the times not covered by the standard EU4 timeline.

The vanilla game has no chronological flavour events past 1820.

I got that from his response. The name "Extended Vanilla Experience" could certainly be misinterpreted as an extended vanilla experience. Extended as in lasting longer than is usual or expected; prolonged. Vanilla as in having no special or extra features; ordinary or standard.