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Hello everyone, i'm doing my first real attemp to a one faith (did WC before). I'm mostly looking for extra tips here and there that I could have forgotten. Excuse my french screen shot and poor typo.

Context: I chose a Timmy/Mughals because I never really played with them in the long run so the culture thing was looking appealing to play with, I know they are not the best nation. I started by going north to place my capital in moscow and then expend in TC land. Now the year is 1700. I have all of asia mainland, east europe and a foot hold in africa. I just finished Japan, so my main forced is turning toward the coloniser. Castille was forced vassalised so the yellow in South america is mine (Spain was formed by Aragon so no colonies). I'm integrating Qara Del. I'm in place for Portugal at the moment and will get Rome from paypal in the same war for my 5th missionnary (I have the mecca and jerusalem ones already). Ottoman and France are allies just to prevent coalition, i don't need them or help them. I'm not super happy with my income, i get about +300/month but drop at +100 when coring, so I can't afford to gives huge subsidies to a vassal (yet). I would prefer to not play with loans (i know, i know). My game plan is to conquer an area, core it, put cathedral then convert, always an area ahead of the missionary. It takes 9 month to convert atm with the adviser but i still have +2% strengh to get with policies.

Idea: Religious - Diplo - Admin - Commercial - Humanist - Aristocratic. I will get the spy one next so i will have 4 policies with +1% missionary strengh. Idk if the last one will mater, probably Maritines so that i can be over 0 sailors once in my game.

Trade: Right now i'm draining China and east india into Novgorod (capital city), and everything in-between of course. I have not much of east indies yet so that will help in a near future. I have to try out if it's just better to collect localy. As I said, i'm not happy with my income, or maybe my expenses are too much.

Army: 10 inf, 10 merc, 20 cannon stack, merge 2 for battle. i have 720/830 force limit atm. I'm not lacking too much manpower, but can't afford all merc inf for now. I slack standard way to much, only 15% profesionnalism. I know i have too much cannon so it ruins my economy but so far, wars were on both side of the world so lots of sieges at the same time. Maybe I could reorganise this now that I only have europe to focus on. Half my income goes to the army... without counting reinforcement.

Absolutism: 115/115 and a nice 75% admin efficiency. Still a 10% to get in 40 years.

Religion: There is 1563 province left to convert (if I dont stop colonisation). With 5 missionnary at lets say 8 month conversion gives.... 209 years. Even if I get all coloniser quickly and drop the amount to 1300, i'm still looking at 173 years, 53 over the limit.

I need help ! Did i miss something or just to slow, not adequate nation. I know about the state rotation to get that 1% extra but I can't use this in the new world. Will probably do in Europe but i doupt this gives me the 50 years or so missing. Maybe in the last 50 years i can make client state to convert with subsidies. TC will also help with Africa but most of it is already converted anyway, maybe save a 5 year with that. I'll take any idea that you might have. Also... I know colonial nations don't convert (most of the time), but if I force religion then release them and subsidies huge amount... will they start converting or they keep their colonial bonus that prenvent the AI to convert ?

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Bonus: Ming still have the mendate in the concentration camp I left them in.
 

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I think that you can get more missionaries:
  1. base
  2. religious ideas
  3. defender of the faith
  4. owning Mecca and Medina
  5. owning Jerusalem
  6. owning Rome
  7. parliament with ‘Propagation of State Religion’ as active issue (you must not have the Iqta or Indian Sultanate reform to be able to select parliament). This issue also gives +1% missionary strength. To have a higher chance for that debate to appear, you need at least 20 provinces with the wrong religion. As long as you don't pick a debate, you will get new ones every month.
  8. assimilating Cushitic culture
I know about the state rotation to get that 1% extra but I can't use this in the new world.
If you full core the state, you can avoid the -2% from territory. Coring is so cheap for the Mughals that you might be able to afford that for many provinces. Your colonial nations also will make full cores if they have enough time to do that. For this it is better to take over the existing CNs by annexing their overlord, because they likely had enough time to state and full core all their land.

Maybe in the last 50 years i can make client state to convert with subsidies
It is better to vassalize countries with religious ideas(or release them from existing cores). Client states take humanist ideas and are less likely to convert(and slower if they do convert).

Also... I know colonial nations don't convert (most of the time), but if I force religion then release them and subsidies huge amount... will they start converting or they keep their colonial bonus that prenvent the AI to convert ?
If they don't form a new nation, they won't convert, because the colonial traditions remove all penalties from wrong religion. I have no idea what they do if they form a country like Mexico which doesn't have it in its own ideas. Maybe they convert then, but I wouldn't count on it.
You might have to release and reconquer the CNs anyway, because the AI likes to promote settlement growth with their colonists once they run out of land to colonize. And that prevents you from converting the provinces where they do it.
 

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Also don't forget to Unify Islam for extra missionary strength.

Priorities right now: Conquer the Colonists. Completely annexing Spain/France/Britain/Portugal gives them your colonies. Colonies won't convert because of their immunity to intolerance, but you can do that for them while you're cleaning up Europe. I'd recommend you spam Cathedrals all across the Americas because that +3% conversion adds up.

If you find some good Vassals to convert, you're going to have to give them a crazy amount of subsidies because the AU has wonky budget prioritizations. It would be north of 100 ducats a month. Not a problem since you own all of Asia, but just to keep that in mind.
 

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I think that you can get more missionaries:
  1. defender of the faith
  2. assimilating Cushitic culture

This is a game changer ! I feel so stupid now, I took out DotF notification in my last game and completely forgot about it. Wow. I will have to check out the culture one, I wasnt aware of it. I will have to look into parlament too if it's worth it. Thanks also everyone for the info on CN, it will save me testing time. And it's true I should aim to unify sooner than later. I'm filled with hopes now.
 

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Don't get your hopes up on unifying Islam; you need to have no heathen provinces to take the decision so it requires either a long pause in conquest or lots of new vassals, neither of which is really worth the bonus.