I need to declare a tyrany revolt against my liege, what are all of the ways to do it and how do i encourage the ai to do it? and which traits make it more likely?
encouraging AI to imprison or revoke titles
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AFAIK a tyranny revolt is declared when a liege unjustly tries to arrest or revoke a vassal's title and they refuse. The corresponding CB for a justified arrest attempt is called "War against the rule of...".
My guess is that if you were to somehow antagonize your liege in any way possible, then make yourself visibly weak (ie keep your levies low while keeping allies and cash on hand high) you should be able to get him to risk a title revocation. If you Spy On him and pick up his plot you may even be able to join the plot against yourself, but I'm just guessing there, it would be kind of cool though.
My guess is that if you were to somehow antagonize your liege in any way possible, then make yourself visibly weak (ie keep your levies low while keeping allies and cash on hand high) you should be able to get him to risk a title revocation. If you Spy On him and pick up his plot you may even be able to join the plot against yourself, but I'm just guessing there, it would be kind of cool though.
I should also note that my liege has theocratic government. And the top liege has confused bureaucracy, i would also like to try and win a tyranny revolt against him, that will be much harder as the wrong government opinion penalty is not there and he cant revoke or imprison me directly without a just cause
Duke, but i can easily temporarily degrade to county level if it makes it any easier.
Duke, but i can easily temporarily degrade to county level if it makes it any easier.
Unfortunately you can't joint a plot targeting you. Or else suicides would be easier.
At duke level he may try to plot revoke or forcibly retract vassalage if
1. You sit on the de jure capital of his primary title.
2. You own duchy titles where you have no de jure desmense in. He will have the option to revoke those.
3. You have a vassal whose primary title is or you have personal desmense in his capital's de jure duchy. For example if you have Vermandois while he sits in Paris. Double that chance if he owns the duchy. Basically if you own desmense or a direct vassal from the leftmost duchy in his list of titles.
1. You sit on the de jure capital of his primary title.
2. You own duchy titles where you have no de jure desmense in. He will have the option to revoke those.
3. You have a vassal whose primary title is or you have personal desmense in his capital's de jure duchy. For example if you have Vermandois while he sits in Paris. Double that chance if he owns the duchy. Basically if you own desmense or a direct vassal from the leftmost duchy in his list of titles.
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Unless they changed it, you CAN join a murder plot against yourself, but only if you are a Lunatic.
I always loved that one !