Employer lines for characters

jordarkelf · Nov 6, 2012

The employer line in the character file makes sure they start at their proper court, which currently is hardly the case. I've only considered the earliest 1066 start here and mainly Normans as I was playing a lot of Apulia when I started getting bothered by this, so more are possible.

Following contains only the changed characters, new lines in dark orange.

The sons of Tostig Godwinson remained in Norway until their deaths, and certainly didn't return to England:
saxon.txt:

Code:

125 = {
	name="Skuli"
	dynasty=756
	martial=8
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=8
	stewardship=5
	religion="catholic"
	culture="saxon"
	add_trait="patient"
	add_trait="thrifty_clerk"
	father=124
	mother=363
	1052.1.2={
		birth="1052.1.2"
	}
	1066.1.1={
		employer=102531
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.9.25={
		employer=102532
	}[/COLOR]
	1102.1.2={
		death="1102.1.2"
	}
}

126 = {
	name="Ketil"
	dynasty=756
	martial=6
	diplomacy=6
	intrigue=6
	stewardship=7
	religion="catholic"
	culture="saxon"
	add_trait="hunchback"
	add_trait="thrifty_clerk"
	father=124
	mother=363
	1054.1.2={
		birth="1054.1.2"
	}
	1066.1.1={
		employer=102531
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.9.25={
		employer=102532
	}[/COLOR]
	1104.1.2={
		death="1104.1.2"
	}
}

The eldest sons of Harold Godwinson should remain in Leinster/Dublin after their father's death:

Code:

111 = {
	name="Godwine"
	dynasty=756
	martial=5
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=5
	stewardship=6
	religion="catholic"
	culture="saxon"
	add_trait="thrifty_clerk"
	father=122
	mother=131
	1049.1.1={
		birth="1049.1.1"
	}
	1066.10.14={
		employer=922[COLOR="#FF8C00"] #Diarmait of Leinster
	}
	1072.2.7={
		employer=83190 #Domnall of Leinster
	}
	1075.7.1={
		employer=920 #Donnchad of Leinster
	}
	1092.1.1={
		employer=923 #Enna of Leinster
	}[/COLOR]
	1095.1.1={
		death="1095.1.1"
	}
}

115 = {
	name="Eadmund"
	dynasty=756
	martial=6
	diplomacy=3
	intrigue=4
	stewardship=6
	religion="catholic"
	culture="saxon"
	add_trait="tough_soldier"
	father=122
	mother=131
	1049.12.10={
		birth="1049.12.10"
	}
	1066.10.14={
		employer=922[COLOR="#FF8C00"] #Diarmait of Leinster
	}
	1072.2.7={
		employer=83190 #Domnall of Leinster
	}
	1075.7.1={
		employer=920 #Donnchad of Leinster
	}[/COLOR]
	1085.1.1={
		death="1085.1.1"
	}
}

116 = {
	name="Magnus"
	dynasty=756
	martial=4
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=7
	stewardship=4
	religion="catholic"
	culture="saxon"
	add_trait="tough_soldier"
	father=122
	mother=131
	1051.6.10={
		birth="1051.6.10"
	}
	1066.10.14={
		employer=922[COLOR="#FF8C00"] #Diarmait of Leinster
	}
	1072.2.7={
		employer=83190 #Domnall of Leinster
	}
	1075.7.1={
		employer=920 #Donnchad of Leinster
	}[/COLOR]
	1091.1.1={
		death="1091.1.1"
	}
}

Harold Haroldson lacks his last employer to keep him in Norway:

Code:

41002 = {
	name="Harold"
	dynasty=756
	martial=6
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=5
	stewardship=7
	religion="catholic"
	culture="saxon"
	add_trait="twin"
	father=122
	mother=123
	1066.11.8={
		birth="1066.11.8"
		employer=102532
	}
	1069.4.28={
		employer=102534
	}
	1093.1.1={
		employer=102577
	}
	1094.6.6={
		employer=202511
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1103.1.25={
		employer=222598 # Olaf Magnusson
	}[/COLOR]
	1112.4.16={
		death="1112.4.16"
	}
}

Normandy.
I've placed every norman in the history database I could track down to Willy the Conker's invasion at his court or his sons, until they're dead or landed anyway. This to prevent them from popping up in Apulia if the player plays nearby.
Likewise normans who were active in Apulia or later in Byzantium have been placed at Robert Guiscard's court.

A sidenote, exactly who is the second Thomas of Kent (5690) supposed to be? Is he a duplicate for 5686?

All below in norman.txt

Code:

148 = {
	name="Odo"
	dynasty=101754
	dna="vhvraiwwgcd"
	properties="cc0ehk0000"
	martial=7
	diplomacy=7
	intrigue=8
	stewardship=4
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="greedy"
	add_trait="wroth"
	add_trait="ambitious"
	add_trait="deceitful"
	add_trait="cruel"
	add_trait="martial_cleric"
	father=41000
	mother=41001
	1030.1.1 = {
		birth="1030.1.1"
	}
	1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1088.7.1={
		employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}[/COLOR]
	1096.1.1 = {
		add_trait="crusader"
	}

	1097.2.1 = {
		death="1097.2.1"
	}
}

152 = {
	name="Roger" #Roger II de Montgomerie
	dynasty=751
	dna="wwgbkbzfbay"
	properties="eh0chk0000"
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	1012.1.1 = {
		birth="1012.1.1"
	}
	1048.1.1 = {
		add_spouse=449 #Maud de Belesme/Talvas
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}[/COLOR]
	1074.1.1 = {
		give_nickname="nick_the_great"
	}
	1094.1.1 = {
		death="1094.1.1"
	}
}

154 = {
	name="Ranulf"
	dynasty=750
	martial=5
	diplomacy=8
	intrigue=5
	stewardship=8
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="just"
	add_trait="cynical"
	add_trait="thrifty_clerk"
	add_trait="bastard"
	1060.1.2 = {
		birth="1060.1.2"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1087.9.9={
		employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}
	1100.8.3={
		employer=202992 #Henry I
	}[/COLOR]
	1110.1.2 = {
		death="1110.1.2"
	}
}

160405 = {
	name="Richard"
	dynasty=749
	martial=4
	diplomacy=4
	intrigue=4
	stewardship=4
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="craven"
	add_trait="thrifty_clerk"
	father=170
	mother=160404
	1060.1.2 = {
		birth="1060.1.2"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1087.9.9={
		employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}
	1100.8.3={
		employer=202992 #Henry I
	}[/COLOR]
	1110.1.2 = {
		death="1110.1.2"
	}
}

170 = {
	name="Drogo"
	dynasty=749
	martial=7
	diplomacy=8
	intrigue=6
	stewardship=5
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="envious"
	add_trait="hunchback"
	add_trait="deceitful"
	add_trait="tough_soldier"
	1039.1.2 = {
		birth="1039.1.2"
	}
	1058.1.2 = {
		add_spouse=160404
	}
	1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1087.9.9={
		employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}[/COLOR]
	1089.1.2 = {
		death="1089.1.2"
	}
}

41014 = {
	name="Richard" # de Tonbridge FitzGilbert de Clare
	dynasty=364
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	father=41013
	1030.1.1 = {
		birth="1030.1.1"
	}
	1058.1.1 = {
		add_spouse=41015 #Rohese Giffard
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}[/COLOR]
	1080.1.1 = {
		death="1080.1.1"
	}
}

41015 = {
	name="Rohese" #Giffard
	female=yes
	dynasty=4011
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	father=32142 #Walter Giffard
	1034.1.1 = {
		birth="1034.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1087.9.9={
		employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}
	1100.8.3={
		employer=202992 #Henry I
	}[/COLOR]
	1113.1.1 = {
		death="1113.1.1"
	}
}

41017 = {
	name="Robert"
	dynasty=364
	martial=9
	diplomacy=4
	intrigue=8
	stewardship=5
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	father=41014
	mother=41015
	1065.1.2 = {
		birth="1065.1.2"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1087.9.9={
		employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}
	1100.8.3={
		employer=202992 #Henry I
	}[/COLOR]
	1115.1.2 = {
		death="1115.1.2"
	}
}

41236 = {
	name="Robert"
	dynasty=101885
	martial=5
	diplomacy=7
	intrigue=7
	stewardship=5
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="just"
	add_trait="proud"
	add_trait="lustful"
	add_trait="tough_soldier"
	father=41232
	1024.1.1 = {
		birth="1024.1.1"
	}
	1064.1.1 = {
		add_spouse=41237
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}[/COLOR]
	1074.1.1 = {
		death="1074.1.1"
	}
}

41241 = {
	name="Henry"
	dynasty=352
	martial=5
	diplomacy=6
	intrigue=5
	stewardship=6
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="lustful"
	add_trait="brave"
	add_trait="tough_soldier"
	1035.1.1 = {
		birth="1035.1.1"
	}
	1053.1.2 = {
		add_spouse=41242
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1087.9.9={
		employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}[/COLOR]
	1100.1.1 = {
		death="1100.1.1"
	}
}

41242 = {
	name="Bertha"
	female=yes
	martial=5
	diplomacy=6
	intrigue=5
	stewardship=6
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="proud"
	add_trait="naive_appeaser"
	1034.1.1 = {
		birth="1034.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}[/COLOR]
	1084.1.1 = {
		death="1084.1.1"
	}
}

41243 = {
	name="Ingenulf"
	dynasty=352
	martial=4
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=4
	stewardship=6
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="tough_soldier"
	father=41241
	mother=41242
	1058.1.1 = {
		birth="1058.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1088.7.1={
		employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}[/COLOR]
	1099.1.1 = {
		death="1099.1.1"
	}
}

41265 = {
	name="Richard"
	dynasty=101857
	martial=6
	diplomacy=7
	intrigue=5
	stewardship=7
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="lustful"
	add_trait="diligent"
	add_trait="tough_soldier"
	1049.1.1 = {
		birth="1049.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1087.9.9={
		employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}[/COLOR]
	1092.1.1 = {
		add_spouse=32500
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1100.8.3={
		employer=202992 #Henry I
	}[/COLOR]
	1107.9.8 = {
		death="1107.9.8"
	}
}

5610 = {
	name="Radulf"
	dynasty=563
	martial=8
	diplomacy=4
	intrigue=5
	stewardship=5
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="craven"
	add_trait="tough_soldier"
	1061.1.2 = {
		birth="1061.1.2"
		[COLOR="#FF8C00"]employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1087.9.9={
		employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}[/COLOR]
	1100.8.3={
		employer=202992 #Henry I
	}
	1111.1.2 = {
		death="1111.1.2"
	}
}

5686 = {
	name="Thomas"
	dynasty=100073
	martial=6
	diplomacy=6
	intrigue=6
	stewardship=4
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="ill"
	add_trait="scholarly_theologian"
	1038.1.2 = {
		birth="1038.1.2"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1087.9.9={
		employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}[/COLOR]
	1088.1.2 = {
		death="1088.1.2"
	}
}

5688 = {
	name="Gerard"
	dynasty=100073
	father=5686
	martial=8
	diplomacy=8
	intrigue=4
	stewardship=4
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="patient"
	add_trait="martial_cleric"
	1052.1.2 = {
		birth="1052.1.2"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1087.9.9={
		employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}[/COLOR]
	1102.1.2 = {
		death="1102.1.2"
	}
}

6806 = {
	name="William"
	dynasty=534
	martial=5
	diplomacy=7
	intrigue=4
	stewardship=4
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="lustful"
	add_trait="skilled_tactician"
	father=6804
	mother=6805
	1026.1.2 = {
		birth="1026.1.2"
	}
	1055.1.1 = {
		add_spouse=110639
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}[/COLOR]
	1071.2.22 = {
		death="1071.2.22"
	}
}

7430 = {
	name="Robert"
	dynasty=352
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	father=41241
	mother=41242
	1060.1.1 = {
		birth="1060.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1088.7.1={
		employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}
	1100.8.3={
		employer=202992 #Henry I
	}
	1135.12.2={
		employer=205851 #Stephen
	}[/COLOR]
	1139.1.1 = {
		death="1139.1.1"
	}
}

82054 = {
	name="Ivo" 
	# AKA: Ivo 'Taillebois'
	dynasty=9109
	martial=6
	diplomacy=6
	intrigue=8
	stewardship=7
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="cynical"
	add_trait="fortune_builder"
	add_trait="greedy"
	add_trait="hunter"
	1035.1.1 = {
		birth="1035.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}[/COLOR]
	1084.1.2 = {
		add_spouse=82058
	}
	1094.1.1 = {
		death="1094.1.1"
	}
}

82055 = {
	name="Roger"
	dynasty=9110
	martial=4
	diplomacy=7
	intrigue=7
	stewardship=6
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	father=82086
	1047.1.1 = {
		birth="1047.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1087.9.9={
		employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}[/COLOR]
	1094.7.1 = {
		add_spouse=82058
	}
	1098.1.1 = {
		death="1098.1.1"
	}
}

82065 = {
	name="Nigel"
	# AKA: Nigel 'd'Aubigny'
	dynasty=9115 
	martial=8
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=7
	stewardship=5
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	1060.1.1 = {
		birth="1060.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1087.9.9={
		employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}
	1100.8.3={
		employer=202992 #Henry I
	}[/COLOR]
	1107.1.1 = {
		add_spouse=82067
	}
	1118.6.1 = {
		add_spouse=82075
	}
	1129.7.1 = {
		death="1129.7.1"
	}
}

82086 = {
	name="Gerold"
	dynasty=9110
	martial=7
	diplomacy=4
	intrigue=7
	stewardship=5
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	1024.1.1 = {
		birth="1024.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}[/COLOR]
	1068.1.1 = {
		death="1068.1.1"
	}
}

32500 = {
	name="Adeliza"
	female=yes
	dynasty=349
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	father=32501
	1075.1.1 = {
		birth="1075.1.1"
		[COLOR="#FF8C00"]employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1087.9.9={
		employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}
	1100.8.3={
		employer=202992 #Henry I
	}
	1135.12.2={
		employer=205851 #Stephen
	}
	1154.10.25 = {
		employer=204500 #Henry II
	}[/COLOR]
	1156.5.27 = {
		death="1156.5.27"
	}
}

32501 = {
	name="William"
	dynasty=349
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	1054.1.1 = {
		birth="1054.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1087.9.9={
		employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}
	1100.8.3={
		employer=202992 #Henry I
	}[/COLOR]
	1114.1.28 = {
		death="1114.1.28"
	}
}

32502 = {
	name="William"
	dynasty=349
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	father=32501
	1100.1.1 = {
		birth="1100.1.1"
		[COLOR="#FF8C00"]employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}
	1100.8.3={
		employer=202992 #Henry I
	}
	1135.12.2={
		employer=205851 #Stephen
	}
	1154.10.25 = {
		employer=204500 #Henry II
	}[/COLOR]
	1155.1.1 = {
		death="1155.1.1"
	}
}

32265 = {
	name="Arnulf" 
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="martial_cleric"
	1060.1.1 = {
		birth="1060.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}[/COLOR]
	1096.1.1 = {
		add_trait="crusader"
	}
	1118.1.1 = {
		death="1118.1.1"
	}
}

129017 = {
	name="William"
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	1028.1.1 = {
		birth="1028.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}[/COLOR]
	1099.5.1 = {
		death="1099.5.1"
	}
}

41210 = {
	name="Avice"
	female=yes
	dynasty=364
	father=41014 #Richard de Tonbridge FitzGilbert de Clare
	mother=41015 #Rohese Giffard
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	1058.1.1 = {
		birth="1058.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1087.9.9={
		employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}[/COLOR]
	1094.1.1 = {
		death="1094.1.1"
	}
}

138455 = {
	name="Robert" #FitzHamon
	dynasty=13115
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	1050.1.1 = {
		birth="1050.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}[/COLOR]
	1087.1.1 = {
		add_spouse=41030 #Sibyl de Montgommery
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1087.9.9={
		employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}[/COLOR]
	1107.3.1 = {
		death="1107.3.1"
	}
}

155245 = {
	name="Walkelin"
	dynasty=1027027
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	1035.1.1 = {
		birth="1035.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}[/COLOR]
	1098.1.3 = {
		death="1098.1.3"
	}
}

204792 = {
	name="Gilbert"
	dynasty=364
	martial=7
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=7
	stewardship=6
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="misguided_warrior"
	father=41014
	mother=41015
	1060.1.1 = {
		birth="1060.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1087.9.9={
		employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}[/COLOR]
	1100.1.1 = {
		culture="english"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1100.8.3={
		employer=202992 #Henry I
	}[/COLOR]
	1114.1.7 = {
		death="1114.1.7"
	}
}

The De Crepon dynasty:

Code:

6807 = {
	name="Roger"
	dynasty=534
	martial=7
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=6
	stewardship=6
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="proud"
	add_trait="deceitful"
	add_trait="wroth"
	add_trait="tough_soldier"
	father=6806
	mother=110639
	1056.1.2 = {
		birth="1056.1.2"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1066.10.14 = {
		employer=6806 # William de Crepon
	}[/COLOR]
	1106.1.2 = {
		death="1106.1.2"
	}
}

6808 = {
	name="William"
	dynasty=534
	martial=5
	diplomacy=6
	intrigue=6
	stewardship=7
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="proud"
	add_trait="gluttonous"
	add_trait="thrifty_clerk"
	father=6806
	mother=110639
	1057.1.2 = {
		birth="1057.1.2"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1066.10.14 = {
		employer=6806 # William de Crepon
	}
	1071.2.22 = {
		employer=6807 # Roger de Crepon
	}[/COLOR]
	1107.1.2 = {
		death="1107.1.2"
	}
}

6809 = {
	name="Emma"
	female=yes
	dynasty=534
	martial=6
	diplomacy=7
	intrigue=6
	stewardship=7
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="lustful"
	add_trait="honest"
	add_trait="thrifty_clerk"
	father=6806
	mother=110639
	1053.1.2 = {
		birth="1053.1.2"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1066.10.14 = {
		employer=6806 # William de Crepon
	}
	1071.2.22 = {
		employer=6807 # Roger de Crepon
	}[/COLOR]
	1103.1.2 = {
		death="1103.1.2"
	}
}

6810 = {
	name="Adelise"
	female=yes
	dynasty=534
	martial=6
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=6
	stewardship=5
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	father=6806
	mother=110639
	1065.1.2 = {
		birth="1065.1.2"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1066.10.14 = {
		employer=6806 # William de Crepon
	}
	1071.2.22 = {
		employer=6807 # Roger de Crepon
	}[/COLOR]
	1115.1.2 = {
		death="1115.1.2"
	}
}

The De Brionne dynasty, after Baldwin should be in his court at Devon once he's landed:

Code:

41261 = {
	name="Robert"
	dynasty=101886
	martial=6
	diplomacy=7
	intrigue=5
	stewardship=4
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="humble"
	father=41260
	mother=41252
	1062.1.1 = {
		birth="1062.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1066.10.14={
		employer=41260 #Baldwin de Brionne
	}
	1090.2.1={
		employer=41263 #Richard de Brionne
	}[/COLOR]
	1101.12.1 = {
		death="1101.12.1"
	}
}

41262 = {
	name="William"
	dynasty=101886
	martial=6
	diplomacy=4
	intrigue=4
	stewardship=4
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	father=41260
	mother=41252
	1063.1.1 = {
		birth="1063.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1066.10.14={
		employer=41260 #Baldwin de Brionne
	}
	1090.2.1={
		employer=41263 #Richard de Brionne
	}[/COLOR]
	1096.1.1 = {
		death="1096.1.1"
	}
}

41263 = {
	name="Richard" #count of Devon 1090 - 1137
	dynasty=101886
	martial=5
	diplomacy=4
	intrigue=4
	stewardship=5
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	father=41260
	mother=41252
	1064.1.1 = {
		birth="1064.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1066.10.14={
		employer=41260 #Baldwin de Brionne
	}[/COLOR]
	1137.6.25 = {
		death="1137.6.25"
	}
}

41264 = {
	name="Adelise"
	female=yes
	dynasty=101886
	martial=6
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=5
	stewardship=4
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="thrifty_clerk"
	father=41260
	mother=41252
	1060.1.1 = {
		birth="1060.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1066.10.14={
		employer=41260 #Baldwin de Brionne
	}
	1090.2.1={
		employer=41263 #Richard de Brionne
	}[/COLOR]
	1142.8.24 = {
		death="1142.8.24"
	}
}

The following should be in their family's court, not all over Europe:

Code:

41251 = {
	name="Hugh"
	# AKA: Hugh 'Lupus'
	dynasty=4047
	martial=7
	diplomacy=7
	intrigue=7
	stewardship=6
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="gluttonous"
	add_trait="wroth"
	add_trait="brave"
	add_trait="tough_soldier"
	father=41250
	mother=156
	1050.1.1 = {
		birth="1050.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=41250 #Richard I Goz
	}[/COLOR]
	1101.7.27 = {
		death="1101.7.27"
	}
}

41252 = {
	name="Albereda"
	female=yes
	dynasty=4047
	martial=5
	diplomacy=7
	intrigue=7
	stewardship=6
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="just"
	add_trait="humble"
	add_trait="charismatic_negotiator"
	father=41250
	mother=156
	1045.1.1 = {
		birth="1045.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=41250 #Richard I Goz
	}[/COLOR]
	1095.1.1 = {
		death="1095.1.1"
	}
}

41253 = {
	name="Maud"
	female=yes
	dynasty=4047
	martial=6
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=7
	stewardship=5
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="honest"
	add_trait="zealous"
	add_trait="martial_cleric"
	father=41250
	mother=156
	1054.1.1 = {
		birth="1054.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=41250 #Richard I Goz
	}[/COLOR]
	1104.1.1 = {
		death="1104.1.1"
	}
}

41254 = {
	name="Judith"
	female=yes
	dynasty=4047
	martial=6
	diplomacy=7
	intrigue=7
	stewardship=5
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="honest"
	add_trait="zealous"
	add_trait="thrifty_clerk"
	father=41250
	mother=156
	1055.1.1 = {
		birth="1055.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=41250 #Richard I Goz
	}[/COLOR]
	1105.1.1 = {
		death="1105.1.1"
	}
}

82059 = {
	name="Margaret" # mother of Ranulf le Meschin
	female=yes
	dynasty=4047
	martial=7
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=7
	stewardship=6
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	father=41250
	mother=156
	1045.1.1 = {
		birth="1045.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=41250 #Richard I Goz
	}[/COLOR]
	1117.1.1 = {
		death="1117.1.1"
	}
}

82060 = {
	name="Ranulf"
	# AKA: Ranulf 'the Viscount'
	dynasty=9111
	martial=6
	diplomacy=6
	intrigue=7
	stewardship=5
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	1035.1.1 = {
		birth="1035.1.1"
	}
	1060.1.2 = {
		add_spouse=82059
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=41250 #Richard I Goz
	}[/COLOR]
	1090.1.1 = {
		death="1090.1.1"
	}
}

82061 = {
	name="Richard"
	dynasty=9111
	martial=5
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=4
	stewardship=5
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="ill"
	father=82060
	mother=82059
	1061.1.1 = {
		birth="1061.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=41250 #Richard I Goz
	}[/COLOR]
	1079.1.1 = {
		death="1079.1.1"
	}
}

82062 = {
	name="Ranulf"
	# AKA: Ranulf 'le Meschin'
	dynasty=9111
	martial=8
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=6
	stewardship=7
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="fortune_builder"
	add_trait="tough_soldier"
	father=82060
	mother=82059
	1063.1.1 = {
		birth="1063.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=41250 #Richard I Goz
	}[/COLOR]
	1098.7.1 = {
		add_spouse=82058
	}
	1129.1.10 = {
		death="1129.1.10"
	}
}

82063 = {
	name="William"
	dynasty=9111
	martial=7
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=3
	stewardship=7
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	father=82060
	mother=82059
	1064.1.1 = {
		birth="1064.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=41250 #Richard I Goz
	}
	1098.1.1 = {
		employer=82062 #Ranulf 'le Meschin'
	}[/COLOR]
	1127.1.1 = {
		death="1127.1.1"
	}
}

82064 = {
	name="Agnes"
	female=yes
	dynasty=9111
	martial=7
	diplomacy=7
	intrigue=5
	stewardship=6
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	father=82060
	mother=82059
	1065.1.1 = {
		birth="1065.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=41250 #Richard I Goz
	}
	1098.1.1 = {
		employer=82062 #Ranulf 'le Meschin'
	}[/COLOR]
	1137.1.1 = {
		death="1137.1.1"
	}
}

32210= {
	name="Helisende"
	female=yes
	dynasty=4047
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	father=41250
	mother=156
	1056.1.1 = {
	birth="1056.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=41250 #Richard I Goz
	}[/COLOR]
	1096.1.1 = {
	death="1096.1.1"
	}
}

The De Beaumonts:

Code:

204576 = {
	name="Roger"
	dynasty=5061
	martial=7
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=5
	stewardship=7
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	father=129057
	1020.1.2 = {
		birth="1020.1.2"
	}
	1036.1.1 = {
		add_spouse=204577
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1066.10.14={
		employer=204596 #Robert de Beaumont
	}[/COLOR]
	1094.1.24 = {
		death="1094.1.24"
	}
}

204596 = {
	name="Robert" #Robert I de Meulan
	dynasty=5061
	dna="fcejfbdvbch"
	properties="0d0ehk0000"
	martial=7
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=5
	stewardship=7
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="envious"
	add_trait="thrifty_clerk"
	father=204576
	mother=204577
	1050.1.1 = {
		birth="1050.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}[/COLOR]
	1080.1.1 = {
		add_spouse=30918
	}
	1090.11.1 = {
		remove_spouse=30918
	}
	1096.1.1 = {
		add_spouse=551
	}
	1114.12.1 = {
		remove_spouse=551
	}
	1118.6.5 = {
		death="1118.6.5"
	}
}

204717 = {
	name="Henri"
	dynasty=5061
	martial=4
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=5
	stewardship=7
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	father=204576
	mother=204577
	1052.1.1 = {
		birth="1052.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1066.10.14={
		employer=204596 #Robert de Beaumont
	}[/COLOR]
	1119.6.20 = {
		death="1119.6.20"
	}
}

Apulians:
First, the de Normandies themselves starting with the MALE Constantine. I'm uncertain exactly when he went to the ERE but he served under Alexios so I put him there once Alexios is in power. Deathdate also corrected.

Code:

42010 = {
	name="Constantine"
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]#female=yes #Son, not daughter![/COLOR]
	dynasty=678
	martial=8
	diplomacy=6
	intrigue=5
	stewardship=5
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="tough_soldier"
	father=85016
	1046.1.2 = {
		birth="1046.1.2"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer = 1128 #Robert Guiscard
	}
	1081.1.1 = {
		employer = 1742 #Alexios Komnenos
	}
	1112.1.2 = {
		death="1112.1.2"
	}[/COLOR]
}

The two sons of Tancred who never left Mortain for Apulia:

Code:

85016 = {
	name="Humbert"
	dynasty=678
	martial=7
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=5
	stewardship=5
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="naive_appeaser"
	father=1120
	mother=10008
	1026.1.2 = {
		birth="1026.1.2"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer = 150 #Mortain
	}[/COLOR]
	1076.1.2 = {
		death="1076.1.2"
	}
}

85017 = {
	name="Tancred"
	dynasty=678
	martial=6
	diplomacy=5
	intrigue=5
	stewardship=5
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="skilled_tactician"
	father=1120
	mother=10008
	1028.1.2 = {
		birth="1028.1.2"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer = 150 #Mortain
	}[/COLOR]
	1078.1.2 = {
		death="1078.1.2"
	}
}

This guy later fought under Philaretos Brachamios and was at Apulia before that:

Code:

93497 = {
	name="Raimbaud"
	dynasty=7372
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	1030.1.1 = {
		birth="1030.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=1128 #Robert Guiscard
	}
	1073.1.1 = {
		employer=85001 #Philaretos Brachamios
	}[/COLOR]
	1074.1.1 = {
		death="1074.1.1"
	}
}

Fought under Romanos Diogenes, infamous:

Code:

34220 = {
	name="Roussel"
	dynasty=7299
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="skilled_tactician"
	1032.1.1 = {
		birth="1032.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer=1128 # Robert of Apulia
	}
	1068.1.1 = {
		employer=1734 #Romanos Diogenes
	}[/COLOR]
	1082.1.1 = {
		death="1082.1.1"
	}
}

Code:

42007 = {
	name="Robert"
	dynasty=25062
	martial=6
	diplomacy=7
	intrigue=6
	stewardship=5
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	add_trait="flamboyant_schemer"
	father=42006
	mother=42005
	1020.1.2 = {
		birth="1020.1.2"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1066.1.1 = {
		employer = 1128 #Robert Guiscard
	}[/COLOR]
	1066.1.2 = {
		add_spouse=42008
	}
	1070.1.2 = {
		death="1070.1.2"
	}
}

Finally the ancestors of the Scots de Brus/Bruce dynasty who should end up in Scotland eventually:

Code:

144949 = {  	
	name="Robert"
	dynasty=3123
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	father=144950
	1078.1.1 = {
		birth="1078.1.1"
	}
	[COLOR="#FF8C00"]1094.1.1 = {
		employer=986 #Donald of Scotland
	}[/COLOR]
	1141.1.1 = {
		death="1141.1.1"
	}
}

144950 = {  	
	name="Robert"
	dynasty=3123
	religion="catholic"
	culture="norman"
	1040.1.1 = {
		birth="1040.1.1"
		[COLOR="#FF8C00"]employer=140 # William the Conqueror
	}
	1087.9.9={
		employer=146 #William II Rufus
	}[/COLOR]
	1094.1.1 = {
		death="1094.1.1"
	}
}

Sleight of Hand · Nov 6, 2012

You could probably add some Saxons to this list, too. Currently the eldest Godwin boys (Godwine, Eadmund and Magnus) all appear in Lothian, even though they ought to remain in Dublin until they die.

Also, may I suggest using dark orange text for amendments? It's much easier to read.

jordarkelf · Nov 6, 2012

I'll look into saxons soon(ish), currently I'm having fun playing as the Russkis. I'll replace the colour - didn't realize it was hard to see

Do you have a reference for the Godwin boys being in Ireland before October 1066? According to Wikipedia (and their current character files) they aren't supposed to go to Ireland until after Harold is killed.

Sleight of Hand · Nov 6, 2012

No, that's correct. They fled to Ireland after Hastings, but I mean if you load up after their patron dies (for example, the Alexiad scenario) then they all randomly appear at Gospatrick's court in Lothian. Maybe this is WAD, but I've not heard anything about them ever being there. As far as I am aware they fled to Ireland in 1066 and are presumed to have died there.

jordarkelf · Nov 6, 2012

Ah, gotcha. Probably happens because they only have the first ruler set, and the guy dies sometime before they do. I'll look up the next rulers of Leinster/Dublin and add them in their character files to the top post.

Sleight of Hand · Nov 6, 2012

Yeah, that should be fine. His two youngest sons were Harold and Ulf. Harold was brought up in the Norwegian court and later accompanied Magnus III (?) in an invasion of Orkney. He should stay in the Norwegian court until he dies, which I think is currently correct.

His twin brother Ulf should be raised in William's court, and at some point join Robert Curthose (he sided with him against his father). It's not known what happened to him after that but in CK II he dies in 1103, which is about 30 years before Robert, so he should be with Harold, then William after he becomes king, and then Robert at some point later until he dies.

This is who the elder Godwin boys sided with, so just have them be in the court of whoever succeeded him (his son?) after he dies.

jordarkelf · Nov 6, 2012

Yup, that's who I picked.
Harald needed his last employer for the 1100s, Ulf was already fine.
I've no doubt there are hundreds more possible characters (one simple example: putting future bishops as employees in their bishoprics before they gain the title), but I think my main focus of the William the Conqueror scenario (misplaced normans and some saxons) should with this be fixed.

Voy · Nov 6, 2012

I don't think you realize how huge this project is going to be if you plan to get the correct employers for every character. It's huge.

The fact that children and spouses of barons' don't stay in the barony upon start is one problem. Imagine that. Infants in foreign courts and the mothers in another while the father is sitting in his barony rolling thumbs. It have to be broken.

Sleight of Hand · Nov 6, 2012

It is indeed a great deal of work if one were to attempt it across the board, but as jordarkelf says, the 1066 scenario is the most popular and many people play as the Normans or Saxons, so I think this is a very useful list of corrections.

Voy, you can of course provide a separate list of such suggestions for the Scandinavian families once you post your next batch of corrections.

jordarkelf · Nov 6, 2012

Oh, I perfectly realize that. That's why I limited my scope to just the one setup.
I tend to fix things in my own mod as I come across them, so when I started this it was just the norman misplacements -
I intend to fix most misplaced infants with a custom event that runs only one time within days of game start (checks for a global flag), and moves all children who are not already fosterlings (has_guardian = no) to their father's court if he is alive, but something like that can't be done for adults easily.

Voy · Nov 6, 2012

Sleight of Hand said:
It is indeed a great deal of work if one were to attempt it across the board, but as jordarkelf says, the 1066 scenario is the most popular and many people play as the Normans or Saxons, so I think this is a very useful list of corrections.

Voy, you can of course provide a separate list of such suggestions for the Scandinavian families once you post your next batch of corrections.

Might just do so. There where some Swedish princes and later kings who resides in Denmark at times and then got some help to siege the crown in Sweden. And ofc the Hvide boys all resides in the royal court as they held most of the council positions throughout the 12th and 13th century.

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