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(( Well, since Mach and Alscon are doing it, I guess I'll join in with a rought draft for Vicy 2 Parta Marina. ))


Parta Marina ( Marine party )
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{ Protectionism | Laissez Faire | Pluralism | Limited Citizenship | Anti-military }
{ Ideology: Liberal }
{ Current leader ; Members }

The Marine party was originally created in order to represent the merchants of the country, mostly members of the Trans-Atlantic Trading Company, after the Crown continuously rejected their pleads for help.
It remained pro-Crown in most cases, however it always favoured slow reforms to grant more power to the people.
The party supported a strong navy and interventionism in order to spread the trade presence of Hispania.
It joined the political struggle fairly late, however it made some quick gains in popularity, trying to appeal to the middle class, however always keeping merchant interests, thus leading to strong aversion for free trade and anything that would bring high risks for the merchants.


However after the disbandment of the Assembly by Regent Joan, and it's reformation later on, Parta Marina, under the leadership of a Neapolitan capitalist Cyprien Luc de Saint-Pierre, changed its image and vowed to represent all the people, not just the rich merchants. It seeked to reform the government into a more republican one, however without the removal of the monarchy.
Their main goals became the expansion of voting franchise through peaceful means, expansion of Hispanian industry without unnecessary government intervention. It promised protection to all the merchants, not giving up on their tradition.
It spread the message of tolerance, the party also proclaimed that anyone can become a Hispanian citizen, however only after proper assimilation.
 
((I wouldn't exactly say that the Imperials didn't attempt to repeal reforms - they tried to forbid them - but I guess that it is just more propaganda.:p

Time for the counter-draft. ;)))

((There is a big difference between voting against a proposed law and attempting to remove a law already in force, well to the Imperials at least.))
 
((There is a big difference between voting against a proposed law and attempting to remove a law already in force, well to the Imperials at least.))
((I meant proposed laws like "appointment is set in stone and cannot be changed" and "whoever thinks differently must be executed" which are fairly radical means to prevent change. :rolleyes:



EDIT: Looks like the differences between Marina and Fénix are getting more subtle, which confirms their placement as liberal parties and presents some nice choice for newcomers who should get a good feel for the parties from these introductions.))
 
((I guess I should also post my rough draft then.))

PARTIDO RECONQUISTA (Reconquista Party)
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Ideologies: Religious Pluralism/Tolerance, civilian interests, Enlightenment-inspired liberalism, royalism, pro-meritocracy, pro-military, pro-interventionism, etc.
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In-game ideology: Liberal (will become socialist once it is enabled)

Issues: Free Trade / Interventionism / Pluralism / Full Citizenship / Pro-Military
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The Reconquista was originally created by Duke Alejandro de Leon in response to the perceived corruption of the then-Prime Minister Bartomeu de Trastamara as a way to defend the common people against abuse by corrupted nobility. From the time of Bartomeu de Trastamara to the end of the Phoenix Wars the Reconquista existed in this form. Following the end of the Phoenix Wars and the victory of the Imperial side, aided by Reconquista agents who sabotaged Phoenix morale, Alejandro de Leon saw no further use in keeping the Reconquista as it was and increasingly began seeing is as a liability which could itself turn against him and the government. As a result, upon the reorganization of the Empire into a constitutional monarchy he officially ended the Reconquista as it had existed for the last several decades. The Reconquista's intelligence-gathering services and agents were placed under government oversight and made fully independent from the rest of the organization, which was reorganized into an early form of political party.

Its platform revolves around the following ideals: the upholding of the rights of the common people, the right to a comprehensive education for all citizens (citizenship to be extended to all free Christian men of the Empire with a substantial income), the establishment of a meritocratic civil service system within the government that allows the most talented Hispanians to advance in society regardless of birth, the promotion of religious tolerance, a strong support for the monarchy as an institution, the incorporation of Enlightenment concepts and ideas into the government, and an acceptance of all cultural minorities within the Empire as equal citizens under the Emperor. Any free Christian man living in the Empire is encouraged to join through an easy membership process.

((Note that the description is copied from the original and subject to change in the final draft.))
 
((Perhaps you should include that the Reconquista has only begun to truly stand for these ideals not so long ago and has been where the so-called enlightened nobility found their place,@zenphoenix . After all, the political landscape should remember that this party has for a long time followed the Imperial order just as it should see that the Phoenixes have always stood for the poor in the opposition. I should maybe make it clearer too. As it is, the description hardly represents that the Reconquista has been dominated by nobles all the time.))
 
((Perhaps you should include that the Reconquista has only begun to truly stand for these ideals not so long ago and has been where the so-called enlightened nobility found their place,@zenphoenix . After all, the political landscape should remember that this party has for a long time followed the Imperial order just as it should see that the Phoenixes have always stood for the poor in the opposition. I should maybe make it clearer too. As it is, the description hardly represents that the Reconquista has been dominated by nobles all the time.))
((As I said, it will be changed when I post it in the Victoria 2 thread. This is just a rough draft.))
 
((Thanks to everyone posting their party platforms. I've also taken the opportunity to change the names in-game so they're not just the English versions.

Also, just a question for @zenphoenix. I have it marked in the files that the Reconquista favours protectionism, but you've written free trade. I'm assuming you want that changed to the latter then?

I'm hoping to post the official thread soon. Just need to do a quick perusal of the rules to see if there are any last minute changes. I'll post here when I've got everything up and running.))
 
Also, just a question for @zenphoenix. I have it marked in the files that the Reconquista favours protectionism, but you've written free trade. I'm assuming you want that changed to the latter then?
((Yeah, I decided to change it to free trade. Makes more sense given the Reconquista's trying to shift its platform to the left.))
 
(( Well, looks like we have all kinds of parties, though mostly liberal ones (At least in the beginning :p ). Should make for a very interesting start, at least in my opinion.
But as I said before, only if we stop caring only about the good of the country. We're simply too strong to fail naturally. ))
 
((I've officially created the thread for the next stage of this iAAR and have finished the initial setup stage. You are all now free to go there and start posting characters. You can find it here. I do need some information from some of you. Those of you who had generals and admirals from the first part, I need to know if they are still serving, and if so they'll need official stats. If they no longer are serving, I'll remove them from the list of generals and admirals. I'm also thinking of changing how titles are listed for nobles. With provinces no longer involved, I shall just list ranks and titles for each player. To do this, I need to know what title each noble character has decided upon. Just state here and I'll add the official title you chose, otherwise I will come up with what I think it most appropriate.))
 
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Fernando and Carlos Maria are still generals, though Carlos Maria is mostly just for IC. I'll add stats for them in the other thread.

As for titles, Fernando prefers the following: Grand Duke of Leon y Asturias (y Salamanca) (shortened to Grand Duke of Leon y Asturias or just Grand Duke of Leon)

Also, seeing as I was Minister of Colonial Affairs in 1821, can I have that position again?
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Fernando and Carlos Maria are still generals, though Carlos Maria is mostly just for IC. I'll add stats for them in the other thread.

As for titles, Fernando prefers the following: Grand Duke of Leon y Asturias (y Salamanca) (shortened to Grand Duke of Leon y Asturias or just Grand Duke of Leon)

Also, seeing as I was Minister of Colonial Affairs in 1821, can I have that position again?
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((I don't have Carlos Maria listed, so I'm assuming he's a minor officer, in which case I don't need stats for him.

At the moment, I've purposely left the the Cabinet empty, with the exception of Joan and texasjoshua's character, since as Chamberlain the latter could only be removed by the Cortz. Once the character creation period is over, I'll probably have some short election event or something to establish the composition of both houses, allowing a government to be formed. Also, keep in mind that now the Minister of Colonial Affairs is an optional position, only created when the Minister of Foreign Affairs wants to delegate responsibilities.))

((Félix Villanova will use the title of Duke of Provence. Also you forgot to add Antione Villanova as a General.))

((Glad I mentioned to remind me about that. I did forget it, as I thought I would. I'll go add him in.))
 
I don't have Carlos Maria listed, so I'm assuming he's a minor officer, in which case I don't need stats for him.
((Last I heard, he was a lieutenant general, I think.))
 
((Martí de San Dionisio would have retired by now. His son Carles could have followed (if you want him): A relentless adventurer, as befits a colonial Montségur ;).))
 
(( Michael, Charles has been dead for a long time now, inactive even longer. :p
So you can cross him off of the leaders list.

As for the title that the noble Saint-Pierres have, I think that they'd like to be called Dukes Of Barcelona-Roussillon.
 
((Please add a conservative party to represent Etxeto's views. I've always voted for Firehound's old party))
 
Sorry for my absence in posting, I've been continuing to lurk around mainly waiting for the appearance of the new thread which is here! I'm super pumped about the dukedom, and duke of Cremona is perfect. I'm not sure how much longer Altair will live for, I'll need to think of a way to get my successor into power. Also this has been an insanely long time for one person to hold the position of Chamberlain, not that I'm complaining.
 
((points out to both @zenphoenix and @alscon that he was pope twice, the first PM of Hispania, the first noble family that married into a reigning monarch, and all my marriages to you guys basically make your achievements mine :p.))