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(( I have to point one thing concerning the disaster relief vote...

According to the Recuperation of Losses Act issued in 1788, sending no help at all would be illegal. According to that law the Crown is also required to help in all regions affected by either A) A war B) A natural disaster or C) Plague.

With that said, here's my vote:

Prime Minister:
1. Jeanne
2. Pere
3. Joan
Greek Referendum:
1. Send in the troops
2. Amend the Citizenship Act
3. Recognize the Referendum
Disaster Relief: //
1. Send relief to all of the Empire
2. Focus relief on Europe/
3. Focus relief on Indonesia
4. Don't send relief (Since this would be illegal.)

Also - Is the stability mechanic you mentioned available to use now, or will we be able to fiddle around with it starting next update?

EDIT: Nevermind, I should've read the whole post, instead of stopping when reaching the vote.

In that case, I'd like to lower the stability. ))
 
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Prime Minister:
1. Jeanne
2. Pere
3. Joan
Greek Referendum:
1. Amend the Citizenship Act
2. Recognize the Referendum
3. Send in the troops
Disaster Relief:
1. Send relief to all of the Empire
2. Focus relief on Europe
3. Focus relief on Indonesia
4. Don't send relief
 

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As Alfons died, Emiliano Faixòn saw a chance to change the empire for the better. But as the Tambora caused a year without summer, his hopes were soon put to rest. If he was still Minister of the Interior, he would have acted immediately. Just as appointed a Prime Minister as soon as possible. Indecision could cause a lot of problems for Hispania.

((A short IC or I'd end up voting IC too :p.

Prime Minister:
1. Pere
2. Jeanne
3. Joan
Greek Referendum:
1. Recognize the Referendum
2. Send in the troops
3. Amend the Citizenship Act
Disaster Relief:
1. Send relief to all of the Empire
2. Focus relief on Europe
3. Focus relief on Indonesia
4. Don't send relief))
 

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According to the Recuperation of Losses Act issued in 1788, sending no help at all would be illegal. According to that law the Crown is also required to help in all regions affected by either A) A war B) A natural disaster or C) Plague.

((Well assume it means sending the bare minimum then. :rolleyes:))
 
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Prime Minister:
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2. Pere
3. Jeanne
Greek Referendum:
1. Amend the Citizenship Act
2. Recognize the Referendum
3. Send in the troops
Disaster Relief:
1. Send relief to all of Hispania
2. Focus relief on Indonesia
3. Focus relief on Europe
4. Don't send relief
 

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1. Joan
2. Pere
3. Jeanne
Greek Referendum:
1. Amend the Citizenship Act
2. Recognize the Referendum
3. Send in the troops
Disaster Relief:
1. Focus relief on Europe
2. No Focus
3. Focus relief on Indonesia
4. Don't send relief
 

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((Time to end the first vote.

Prime Minister: Joan
Greek Referendum: Amend the Citizenship Act
Disaster Relief: Send relief to all of the Empire

I'll start writing up an update soon.))
 

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1822 - The Breakdown of Order
As the year 1822 began, the situation only grew more worse. The full impact of last year's eruption of Tambora was truly starting to be felt, as crops across Hispania failed. Food shortages became common, and as food became scarce, the prices started to rise. The price of bread tripled in a month, and it seemed a trend that was unlikely to stop. People began hoarding food, and in some cases the lack of things to eat led to starvation or riots. Conditions in Indonesia were even worse. While they were facing similar conditions as Europe, their proximity to the volcano multiplied the impact. Barely any vegetation could grow without becoming diseased or withering away. Thousands of acres of farmland was made inhospitable. A response was needed and quickly.

The dire situation finally sparked Emperor Pere VI to act. He needed a Prime Minister. Parliament had gravitated towards supporting Prince Joan, for while the man was a die-hard Imperialist, he at least could be trusted to get the job done. Even those who did not agree with his political views started to see him as the optimal candidate. Pere was simply not able to handle such tasks, even with his wife's help, while a woman in charge would just worsen things. A strong man was needed, and thus a strong man was chosen. The Emperor appointed his brother Joan as Prime Minister near the end of January.

With the government finally able to fully function, Parliament sprung into action. The matter of the Greeks had been left dormant for too long. Parliament immediately amended the Citizenship Act, extending citizenship to the Greeks as well. This placated the majority of Greeks, who after waiting years for a response were happy simply to receive the same rights as other Hispanians. There were still those wanted the referendum recognized and continued to express their support for a union with Byzantium, but Parliament's response had reduced them to a minority. The Greeks were content with their new circumstances for now.

As for the matter of disaster relief, Joan did not hesitate to take Parliament's suggestion and send relief to every corner of the Empire. Keeping people from starving, either in Europe or Indonesia, was a priority. The government's grain storage was open and the government store of food was sent out across the Empire. Where this was not enough, further grain was purchased from foreign states like the UKA to ensure that all Hispanians had food to eat. Prices began to drop as the market was flooded with food by the government. It was a costly endeavour, but one that kept anarchy from ensuing.

While Europe was well on its way to recovery, a major set-back occurred that hampered relief efforts in Asia. In May of 1822, an attack on the Suez Canal was conducted by unknown terrorists. A large frigate sailing through the canal from the Red Sea violently exploded one night, it's flaming carcass blocking further passage for other ships. Before the guards protecting the Suez Canal could respond, several way-stations along the canal were attacked and set to the flame. Clashes broke out between the guards and the attackers, with most of the terrorists driven off or killed. None were captured, for the men opted to commit suicide rather than fall into Hispanian hands. As the guards were dealing with these terrorists, another frigate exploded near the Mediterranean entrance of the canal. This was followed by damage caused to the embankments and at least two more ships exploding in the canal, along with these unknown assailants firing upon ships passing through. The guards, preoccupied with defending the way-stations, were unable to respond in time before the damage was done and the attackers fled. When the whole affair was over, the Suez Canal was filled with wreckage, several locations had caved-in embankments, and the way-stations were up in flame. Until the wreckage could be removed and damage fixed, the Suez Canal could not be used at optimal efficiency. If resources were focused on its repair, the situation could be alleviated, but there were terrorists to track down as well.

With the Suez Canal out of commission for now, all food and other relief sent from Europe had to travel around Africa to reach Indonesia. This delay proved costly, for relief was not arriving quickly enough to ensure conditions would fully improve. What aid that had been sent before the attack proved at least enough to prevent mass starvation, but the Indonesian people were still suffering. With Hispanian aid suddenly stalled due to the attack on the Suez Canal, dissent started to ferment. The Indonesian people were not pleased with their Hispanian overlords. Independence movements began to gain traction. Left unattended, a rebellion could be likely. A response was needed. With the Suez Canal unusable for now, options were limited. Hispania could attempt to improve relief efforts, although it might be too late if forced to be sent around Africa. There were troops in India and China that could be moved to the islands to maintain order if necessary. Something had to be done.

As matter calmed down at home, the Italians decided to break their silence. Perhaps spurred on by the Greeks' success at gaining needed reforms, the Italians clamoured for further reforms. The question of greater autonomy was broached yet again, specifically for Italy. While mostly supported by Northern Italians, those in the south had little tolerance for the matter, especially during a crisis. The Northern Italians requested that the idea of greater autonomy for Italy be reconsidered again. This idea did have opposition, even from fellow Italians. The Neapolitans favoured a more centralized government, an idea expressed by Prime Minister Joan de Trastámara. Joan went before Parliament and explained that if the Italians truly wanted better treatment, they should support greater participation in Parliament and the government rather than splitting themselves off from everyone else and hiding from the world. Joan suggested several possibilities to push forward this agenda, such as having all Parliament laws written in both Hispanian and Italian, greater representation of Italians in the various government ministries, and other similar ideas. Either the Italians could focus on themselves or attempt to stand beside their fellow Hispanians as equals. Perhaps now a final decision could be made, or else the silence would resume again with nothing done.

This would all be overshadowed by a major event in international politics near the end of the year. In early November, Emperor Jean III passed away at the age of 21. He had been suffering from various ailments his entire life, all leading to an early grave. His death though left a very questionable succession. Jean had a single son, the three-year-old Charles. A regency was problematic enough, but matters soon spiralled out of control. Rumours started to circulate that Charles was actually a bastard. Soon the midwife and physician that had been present when the Empress gave birth stepped forward and admitted that while the Empress had given birth to a child in 1819, it had been a stillborn. Seeing as the Empress had died giving birth to that child, neither she nor the late Emperor were around to disprove these theories. Courtiers started to point out discrepancies, like how the royal baby had not been seen by anyone after his birth until a few months later. A chambermaid then was revealed to have given birth to a child shortly after the Empress, and after some forceful persuasion admitted that her child had been Jean's. Charles was actually her son, and Jean had pretended the boy was Empress Mirella's to avoid issues of succession. Now that the rumours were out, they could not be stopped. French nobles squabbled over the boy, either to use the bastard to forward their own agenda or claim the throne themselves. France was on the brink of civil war.

While the French argued over who should be the next Emperor, there were those elsewhere who saw the opportunity to intervene for their own advantage. Both the kings of Scandinavia and Germany were Valois by birth, and with the French line in question, it seemed time to act. First King Franz I of Germany announced that by law he was the rightful Emperor of France, seeing as he was Jean III's closest male heir. Charles was a bastard and to be excluded from succession. There were those that speculate this claim was pushed more by the German nobles than Franz, seeing as the King was only 14. This sparked an immediate response from Scandinavia. King Håkon I of Scandinavia announced that he would exercise his right to the French throne, denouncing both Charles and Franz. There was one serious roadblock to both claims though. When each line had ascended to their respective thrones, they had been forced to swear off all claims to the French throne. Both argued that due to the extinction of the legitimate male Valois line, they were the natural successors. While Franz had the advantage of being more closely related by blood, Håkon argued that if the fact they had sworn off their claims was to be ignored, his ancestor King Karl IX would have inherited the French throne nearly a century ago. Both men rallied their armies, preparing for war. As for the French, although they all had their own ambitions, none of them wanted a foreign monarch, even a Valois, sitting on the French throne. They would resist any invasion.

There was one more claim to consider, however. With the legitimate male line either extinct or having sworn off all claims to the throne, there were those who suggested that the women of the Valois family be considered. While traditionally removed from succession, they might have no choice but to consider them now. With that being the case, Jean III's closest female relative was none other than Empress Jeanne, Emperor Pere's wife. Hispania thus had a claim to the French throne, although it was arguable whether it was stronger or weaker than any of the others. This was a chance for Hispania to spread its influence to France, although it seemed likely that doing so would not only earn the ire of the French, but destroy all relations with Scandinavia. Hispania had a choice to make. If they wanted, they could press Jeanne's claim, although the resulting war could well be grim. There was also the option of supporting the Scandinavian or German claim to the French throne, if one felt they had the strongest claim. If one wanted a independent France though, there seemed no other option than to support Charles, even if a bastard. Of course, it might be better to wait and see what happens. Hispania could always focus on its own problems and if things truly grew dire between the other states of Europe, choose to intervene on whichever side they felt was most likely to win. So much could happen in the coming years, and Hispania could well find itself at the centre of it all.


((On to the second vote. This time, you will be voting on four things. First is our response to the Suez Canal attack, choosing either to focus on repairing the canal or finding those responsible for the attack. It should be noted that both will be attempted regardless, with us merely deciding what is more important. Second is our response to the growing dissent in Indonesia. We can choose to improve relief efforts, send in the troops, or both. Third is the Italians. Here you'll vote on whether to grant them more autonomy, encourage centralization that benefits them, or do nothing. Lastly, we have the impending French Succession War. Our options are to either side with France (Charles), Scandinavia, or Germany, press Jeanne's claim, or remain neutral. I want to make it clear that remaining neutral does not mean we cannot get involved later. If the war has not finished by the next update, we can choose to intervene for any of the sides or press Jeanne's claim then. Now for the vote.

Suez Canal Attack: Repair the Suez Canal/Find the terrorists
1.
2.​
Dissent in Indonesia: Improve relief efforts/Send in the troops/Both
1.
2.
3.​
Italian Autonomy: Grant Italy greater autonomy/Increase centralization/Do nothing
1.
2.
3.​
French Succession War: Back France/Back Scandinavia/Back Germany/Press Jeanne's claim/Remain neutral
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.​

Remember that we're using alternative voting, so please include all options in your order of preference. Players will have until Friday at 12PM PST to vote. If you want to lower or raise stability for this turn, state so before this deadline. You can only use that option once during the gap years and feel free to recommend in what form that change in stability should take.))
 

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Suez Canal Attack:
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Suez Canal Attack:
1. Repair the Suez Canal
2. Find the terrorists
Dissent in Indonesia: //
1. Improve relief efforts
2. Both
3. Send in the troops
Italian Autonomy:
1. Increase centralization
2. Do nothing
3. Grant Italy greater autonomy
French Succession War:
1. Back France
2. Remain neutral
3. Back Germany
4. Back Scandinavia
5. Press Jeanne's claim
 

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Suez Canal Attack:
1. Repair the Suez Canal
2. Find the terrorists
Dissent in Indonesia:
1. Both
2. Improve relief efforts
3. Send in the troops
Italian Autonomy:
1. Increase centralization
2. Grant Italy greater autonomy
3. Do nothing
French Succession War:
1. Back France
2. Remain neutral
3. Press Jeanne's claim
4. Back Scandinavia
5. Back Germany
 

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((Suez Canal Attack:
1.Repair the Suez Canal
2.Find the terrorists
Dissent in Indonesia:
1.Send in the troops
2.Both
3.Improve relief efforts
Italian Autonomy:
1.Increase Centralization
2.Do nothing
3.Grant Italy greater autonomy
French Succession War:
1.Press Jeanne's claim-This is why we vote OC. :cool:
2.Remain neutral
3.Back France
4.Back Scandinavia
5.Back Germany
))
 

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The Duke of Brandenburg led the group of mainly eastern nobles as they presented their plan to the young king. A plan they carefully thought through after a long and sometimes heated debate. "Parliament will have no reason to disapprove, Your Majesty. The succession law of France is clearly in your favour. If Jean III wanted Charles to succeed him, then he would have had to legitimize the boy, this way he stays a bastard without rights. So the closest male relative inherits, and that would be you, my King, not Håkon. The Salic Law excludes any succession through the female line. And take it from a man with French ancestry, we didn't fight the Hundred Years' War to abandon it now. Hispania has to recognize that, for the French people will never accept the contrary. That your ancestor had to swear off any claim to the French throne was clearly intended not to cause any probable claim against a legitimate heir - but now that there is none, there remains no question that the German king can contest the legitimate succession, for You are this man, Your Majesty!"

__________________________

Joan's appointment as Prime Minister dealt another blow to the hopes of the old Emiliano Faixòn, and while he never gave up the fight, the Year without Summer was to be his last. While Arnau Faixòn wasn't elected as next leader of the Facció del Fénix, he remained the most well-known. Always trying to agitate the people. No matter how much grain was imported, it couldn't entirely assuage the plight for other nations were similarly hit. He accused Joan, the Imperials and the Cortz for every problem of Hispania. That the price of bread was too high - due to their needs and greed. That no further steps were made into the direction of most of Hispania's hard-working people - their fault. Even for the incident of the Suez Canal, he blamed them. Only to gain further powers, keep their ill-achieved gains, look as if they cared for the people. He repeated all other grievances accumulated over the years, and closed with the statement that despite wishing to keep the opposition silent, it will never grow silent. Only louder!
((attempting to lower stability, if it isn't clear enough :D))

((
Suez Canal Attack:
1. Find the terrorists
2. Repair the Suez Canal
Dissent in Indonesia:
1. Send in the troops
2. Both
3. Improve relief efforts
Italian Autonomy:
1. Do nothing
2. Grant Italy greater autonomy
3. Increase centralization
French Succession War:
1. Back Germany
2. Back Scandinavia
3. Remain neutral
4. Back France
5. Press Jeanne's claim))
 

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((Suez Canal Attack:
1.Repair the Suez Canal
2.Find the terrorists
Dissent in Indonesia:
1.Improve relief efforts
2.Both
3.Send in the troops
Italian Autonomy:
1.Increase Centralization
2.Do nothing
3.Grant Italy greater autonomy
French Succession War:
1.Back France
2.Press Jeanne's claim
3.Remain neutral
4.Back Scandinavia
5.Back Germany
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(( Well, I haven't been told I wasn't allowed to vote, so... :p))

Suez Canal Attack:
1. Repair the Suez Canal
2. Find the terrorists

((This is a global disaster, humanitarian response has to be put first.))

Dissent in Indonesia:
1. Both
2. Improve relief efforts
3. Send in the troops

((Make the Indonesian clearly see they wouldn't even survive on their own. Hispania must show how truly beneficial the Empire is to all its citizens, even the most remote ones.))

Italian Autonomy:
1. Increase centralization
2. Grant Italy greater autonomy
3. Do nothing

((Just follow the same path as with the Greeks. In these times of trouble every part of the Empire has to feel valued, so as everyone sticks together.))

French Succession War:
1. Remain neutral
2. Back France
3. Press Jeanne's claim
4. Back Scandinavia
5. Back Germany

(( This part really reminds me of CK2. Funny to see that things don't change along centuries with monarchies :rolleyes:... More seriously, considering Hispania's current concerns, it would be way too risky to get involved in the mess that succession crisis is promising to be. This could lead to a sheer revolution, as this is the XIXth century after all, and citizens might not accept so well to be treated as some decadent dynasties' private property anymore. So let's be careful with that game of thrones : with the grain crisis, if French people get in trouble, contagion might be on its way... Let's just back them materially, and for the political matters, wait and see. This could be actually rewarding later on... it's more important to keep good relations with the neighbors than to support distant monarchs.))
 
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Suez Canal Attack:
1. Repair the Suez Canal
2. Find the terrorists
Dissent in Indonesia:
1. Both
2. Improved Relief
3. Send in the troops
Italian Autonomy:
1. Increase centralization
2. Do nothing
3. Grant Italy greater autonomy
French Succession War:
1. Back France
2. Remain neutral
3. Back Germany
4. Back Scandinavia
5. Press Jeanne's claim

((Hey Mike, it looks like we are going to have multiple military actions in addition to the usual supervision needed in the Army... Even Joan would need help and someone with the rank and authority to do so....))
 

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((Hey Mike, it looks like we are going to have multiple military actions in addition to the usual supervision needed in the Army... Even Joan would need help and someone with the rank and authority to do so....))

((I'm completely ignoring player characters during the gap so we can have a clean sheet going into Vicky 2. There's going to be no promotions, appointments, etc until we start the next phase.))
 

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1. Repair the Suez Canal
2. Find the terrorists
Dissent in Indonesia:
1. Both
2. Improved Relief
3. Send in the troops
Italian Autonomy:
1. Increase centralization
2. Do nothing
3. Grant Italy greater autonomy
French Succession War:
1. Back France
2. Remain neutral
3. Back Scandinavia
4. Press Jeanne's claim
5. Back Germany
 

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2. Send in the troops
3. Improve relief efforts
Italian Autonomy:
1. Increase centralization
2. Grant Italy greater autonomy
3. Do nothing
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((Now to close that vote.

Suez Canal Attack: Repair the Suez Canal
Dissent in Indonesia: Both
Italian Autonomy: Increase centralization
French Succession War: Back France

The Indonesia vote was the first to actually make use of the alternative vote to decide the outcome. On to the next update.))