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When I played the game yesterday,I managed to create the empire of Tamriel,with it being the de jure owner of Highrock,Cyrodiil and Skyrim,but when I load the game today,the title suddenly became titular.Is this a bug?
 

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I've had it happen with other mods before that allow the creation of an (initially titular) empire-tier title via decision. Basically, from what I can tell, if the empire-tier title is in the game files with no de jure territory, like the Empire of Tamriel is, and it can/must be formed by a decision that adds kingdoms to its de jure territory, there's a chance of this happening as a result. I'm not sure if it's just something about specific mods or CKII in general but I've never seen this problem twice with the same mod. From what I've seen, this doesn't cause kingdoms that became part of the empire via de jure drift to drift out, so if it's possible for kingdoms to drift in this mod I'd suggest just waiting for them to drift into your empire naturally. Or revert to another save and hope you don't encounter it again.
 

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I'm pretty sure that this is a vanilla problem. There were always problems with the CM start and some of the duchies reverting to the 1066 "normal" de jure no matter what when you saved and loaded. PDS never really fixed it, so it still happens.
 

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don't know if it is a bug or not, but having the Tamrielic Empire be titular makes sense, the empire in all its incarnations always problems with independence movements, take the number of factions in Morrowind which were hostile to imperials as an example or the Stormcloaks in Skyrim as another. Having the empire be titular would mean more independence factions and therefore a decent reflection of one of the problems of the Tamrielic Empire.
 
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I'm pretty sure you can, if you hold certain Provinces you have the option of creating an empire-tier title based off your primary title (Skyrim lets you found the Nordic Empire, Cyrodiil lets you found the Cyrodiilic Empire, the Summerset Isles lets you found the Aldmeri Dominion, etc) if memory serves
 

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I'm pretty sure you can, if you hold certain Provinces you have the option of creating an empire-tier title based off your primary title (Skyrim lets you found the Nordic Empire, Cyrodiil lets you found the Cyrodiilic Empire, the Summerset Isles lets you found the Aldmeri Dominion, etc) if memory serves
If you are of the right culture, and the possible automatic de_jure kingdoms are limited. For instance, High Rock, Hammerfell and Skyrim can be made into e_breton if you are of Reachman, Breton or Orsimer culture (or are Altmer and belong to the Direnni dynasty), the name depending on the culture.