I remember reading "The Presidents: From Clay to Smith" some time ago. Enjoyed it very much too !But if you've liked his efforts here you might like some of his other AARs too.
Well, it's hard to think of an bad volksmarschall AAR
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I remember reading "The Presidents: From Clay to Smith" some time ago. Enjoyed it very much too !But if you've liked his efforts here you might like some of his other AARs too.
Just finished reading and I must confess: if you would write another 30 pages, I would definently read it !
Great history class that you've created here, Sir.
If we give him enough time I don't doubt @volksmarschall has at least another 30 pages in him
But if you've liked his efforts here you might like some of his other AARs too.
I remember reading "The Presidents: From Clay to Smith" some time ago. Enjoyed it very much too !
Well, it's hard to think of an bad volksmarschall AAR
Very nice look into the Progressives and Socialists. Interesting to point out the links with Bismarck's State Socialism and One Nation Toryism. The conservative elements of Progressivism often get overlooked. Debs doing notably better than IOTL. May we be seeing a shifting dynamic in the party system? The brahmins forced to accept Progressivism as the only defence for free enterprise and property in the face of a mainstream American socialist party?
There has always been more than a little of the whiff of champagne socialism from American Progressives
Taylorism... ech. I've had to work in a call center before where pretty much my every move was tracked from clock-in to clock-out. Breaks were scrutinized down to the minute, and wage bonuses were tied to quotas, time limits, and "quality" metrics that were frankly nigh-impossible to meet if you actually cared enough about the real quality of the assistance you were rendering to the customer. It was honestly the most miserable and dehumanizing work experience I've ever had, and I've had some bad ones.
So yeah, I've had some personal encounters with the dark side of the progressive approach. I don't really rate it all that highly.
It will be interesting to see if and how the Socialist Party's strong showing will affect this timeline, or if it's just Vicky shenanigns
I've just finished page 22 and what a ride it's been, the civil war, Sherman's march along the coast, reconstruction, the "counter revolution" of the grandfather laws, and now the start of the labour struggle and the railroad barons. All very interesting stuff and I'm sure more of the same to come.
I might try to ration the rest of this AAR, I really don't want to be in the position of having to wait for updates!
I'm looking forward to this next phase of the AAR. My wife and I recently had a conversation where our biases in regards to labor unions came up (they're very opposite opinions), and I'm curious to see the historical roots of some of our opinions.
I've tried rationing this one since April, reading about six chapters per week and *finally* made it to the end.
This has truly been wonderful to catch up with. With my northern European outlook, I've tended to gloss over so many aspects of American history which have been really interesting to read about in the course of these past few months. From the descriptions of the Know-Nothings to the Tory Unionists and the description en passant of John Locke as "devil-incarnate" which made me laugh out loud - so many good chapters, interesting highlighted historians and above all so many things I've wanted to comment and question on.
I'll settle on one: reading about the American turn of the millennium from a Scandinavian context, I find it natural to cast William Jennings Bryan into a kind of social democratic mold. With regards to his political base, actual policy goals and rhetoric style, there seems to be some similarities between the political movements in Europe which you describe as based on "welfare liberalism" and which you (if I have interpreted correctly) regard as starkly contrasting to Bryan's populism. I understand that, from the point of view of an intellectual historian, the roots of American populism and Scandinavian social democracy are miles apart, but I still wonder just *how* diametrically opposed they can be considered given what seem to be many similarities "on the ground".
On another note, I've really appreciated the literary discussions. Sadly, I haven't read many (perhaps any) of the American classics. The only American historical novel I can think of having read is Butcher's Crossing by John Williams which I am tremendously fond of, and which unfolds in tandem with the innumerable cultural, geographical and political divisions that this AAR, and perhaps that whole continent across the pond, seems to be driven by. Anyhow, thanks again!
Well it's great that you've caught up and thanks very much for the kind words. It's always good to know readAARs have enjoyed the AAR and have taken much from it. I wouldn't worry about not being able to follow all the literary and cultural discussion and echoes -- naturally that is tailored for Americans and most Americans probably won't follow them all!
Anyhow, I suppose asking a political philosopher (by education) isn't the best approach for wanting the nuance of American populism with social democratic welfarism. I suppose the best way to approach things is that American populism never envisioned any sort of welfare state as much as it saw the executive branch (in particular) as the buttress against corporate excess and industrialism. It was agrarian at heart. Social democracy, is, of course, of the opposite mold. Whatever aid it provided to rural dwellings, the heart of that political philosophy is girded in the inevitable and superior reality of urban industrialism with the government taking a proactive role in facilitating a comfortable welfare state. I think that the two traditions are superificially similar, but when you dig into the metaphysics and practical applications of the two schools, they're, in fact, miles apart. One of the problems, as we've been highlighting in the post-Bryan era, is how progressivism coopted the populist mantle despite being of a far different persuasion and outlook. On this note I'd say that Trump is, truly, a great example of the American populist tradition. Few people would be willing, with this acknowledgement, to think him part of the social democratic mold.
Now if I may ask one question to you, I find it fascinating that you've read Bucther's Crossing. How, may I ask, did you happen across it? It's rare enough to find an American who has read the book! And the fatalistic Western tragedy is among my favorite genres. As a classicist and literary essayist I always get excited when someone mentions a book that I'm fond of!
1 - Bullied everyone weaker than it? - confirmedThe United States, among all the great powers of the world and in world history, is the one nation that has never actually acted like a historic great power.