Emperor Government Rank

[pahco]

I don't know if the is a bug or if it was intended but HRE electors can (supposedly I have not tested) reach the kingdom rank and yet the emperor cannot. This doesn't seem right to me.

Edit: For clarification I think that the emperor should be able to become king as well as the electors.

 

[MagnusDux]

I think it makes (common) sense, the emperor could have vassal kings and dukes, but couldn't have vassal emperors... the only exception i can think of is when the emperor himself elevated Austria to an empire. Btw, if you Germany you become an empire and leave the hre automatically, but you can remain elector.

 

[pahco]

I think it makes (common) sense, the emperor could have vassal kings and dukes, but couldn't have vassal emperors... the only exception i can think of is when the emperor himself elevated Austria to an empire. Btw, if you Germany you become an empire and leave the hre automatically, but you can remain elector.

You misunderstand. I agree that the electors should be able to become King rank. I just think that the emperor should be able to as well.

 

[MagnusDux]

You misunderstand. I agree that the electors should be able to become King rank. I just think that the emperor should be able to as well.

oh srry lol, yeah you're right, Austria became an empire and it wasn't an elector

 

[Chaos_TLW]

The HREmperor wasn't the Emperor of Austria(at least until after the HRE was disbanded), he was the Emperor of the HRE, *and* the Archduke of Austria. IMO, your country itself should still keep its original rank(Duchy if not Elector, King if one) but the ruler should be referred to as Emperor in events, messages and whatnot.

 

[MagnusDux]

The HREmperor wasn't the Emperor of Austria(at least until after the HRE was disbanded), he was the Emperor of the HRE, *and* the Archduke of Austria. IMO, your country itself should still keep its original rank(Duchy if not Elector, King if one) but the ruler should be referred to as Emperor in events, messages and whatnot.

The Austrian Empire was created in 1804, the HRE was dissolved on 6 August 1806, when the last emperor Francis II abdicated. So there was an overlap for 2 years.

 

[Chaos_TLW]

The Austrian Empire was created in 1804, the HRE was dissolved on 6 August 1806, when the last emperor Francis II abdicated. So there was an overlap for 2 years.

Indeed, I stand corrected there. By the time the Austrian Empire was declared, however, the HRE was heavily changed by heavy mediatization, so I don't think allowing the HREmperor to change ranks right from the start would be correct. After some later reform, perhaps?

 

[MagnusDux]

Indeed, I stand corrected there. By the time the Austrian Empire was declared, however, the HRE was heavily changed by heavy mediatization, so I don't think allowing the HREmperor to change ranks right from the start would be correct. After some later reform, perhaps?

Since Austria became an empire in response to Napoleon becoming emperor, they could add an event where if France becomes a revolutionary empire Austria could become an empire as well.

 

[Chaos_TLW]

Since Austria became an empire in response to Napoleon becoming emperor, they could add an event where if France becomes a revolutionary empire Austria could become an empire as well.

Hm, that is an interesting solution, indeed. I don't think it should be restricted to France, however. Say, the event fires if any nation in the European Continent becomes Rev. Empire, and if the HREmperor is currently above a certain development level, smaller than the usual needed for declaring an Empire but still enough that a weak Emperor that became one through electoral hijinks can't do it.