Emperor gaining cores in peace treaty?

[Xnaop]

The Wiki's page on the HRE says:

"The Emperor is able to take Imperial provinces held by a non-member through the Imperial Ban Casus Belli at a 10% Infamy cost once the first Imperial reform, Reichsreform, is taken. The Emperor will also be granted cores per applicable peace treaty. This means that if the Emperor desires cores on all territory taken with an Imperial Ban he must only take one per war."

Is this "Emperor gains cores in peace treaty" thing only applicable for Imperial Ban? Or is it also applicable for other CBs? In particular, is it applicable for Imperial Liberation?

And whatever it's applicable for, how does it work? Do you just automatically get a core if you take an imperial province in the peace treaty? Or is it something that you demand in the treaty?

If it's something you automatically get, what happens if you take more than one imperial province? Do you somehow choose which one gets a core, or is one chosen randomly?

And if it's something that you demand in the treaty, does it cost extra war score and/or infamy, as opposed to simply demanding the province itself?

Thanks in advance.

 

[ind2bc]

I think that you get a core if you take it no matter what CB you use and you get cores on all the territory you take that is in the empire and it isn't extra infamy

 

[Xnaop]

I think that you get a core if you take it no matter what CB you use and you get cores on all the territory you take that is in the empire and it isn't extra infamy

Just to make sure I'm understanding: When you say "you get cores on all the territory you take that is in the empire", that means that the wiki is incorrect when it says "This means that if the Emperor desires cores on all territory taken with an Imperial Ban he must only take one per war"? Or am I misunderstanding?

Also, when you say it's no matter what CB, is that only after Reichsreform, or is the wiki's mention of that only related to the fact that it gives the ability to use Imperial Ban, and not related to whether or not you'll get cores in peace treaties?

Thanks again.

 

[ind2bc]

I know if you use imperial ban you get it however if it is a defensive war and you take them you get cores i'm not an expert on this i'd like someone else to back me up or prove me wrong so it's right but i have gotten cores without the imperial ban CB

 

[LarissaAU]

You get cores on Provinces that are in HRE territory, but the owner of the province capital isn't. No matter what CB you used.

For example the Teutonic HRE land in north, if you take a province there as a HRE member, you'll get a core. Since the Order is not a part of the HRE (capital isn't in HRE)

 

[Xnaop]

Then does anyone understand what the wiki means when it says "This means that if the Emperor desires cores on all territory taken with an Imperial Ban he must only take one per war"?

 

[ind2bc]

well then the wiki is wrong i have taken many and gotten cores on all of them

edit:it may have been changed in an update or expansion

 

[unmerged(82381)]

Then does anyone understand what the wiki means when it says "This means that if the Emperor desires cores on all territory taken with an Imperial Ban he must only take one per war"?

It used to be that the event to give the free core fired once for one (and only one) province at the end of the war. Offhand I couldn't tell you if this is still true or not, but I do think I've read that it was changed in one of the DW patches.

 

[King Nothing]

I will chime in that the wiki is indeed wrong there. You get cores on all imperial provinces you take, not just one.

 

[Xnaop]

OK, thanks everybody.

 

[Kurblius]

You get cores on Provinces that are in HRE territory, but the owner of the province capital isn't. No matter what CB you used.

For example the Teutonic HRE land in north, if you take a province there as a HRE member, you'll get a core. Since the Order is not a part of the HRE (capital isn't in HRE)

So if you use a CB other than Imperial Ban, does this mean you'll get cores, but be forced to take whatever infamy reduction permitted by the CB?

Also, do you lose all the buildings of the province you take because you only get the cores after?

 

[ind2bc]

You get whatever infamy that is in the CB and i assume it is the same rules as far as buildings go

 

[jdrou]

I will chime in that the wiki is indeed wrong there. You get cores on all imperial provinces you take, not just one.

Yes, this issue was fixed in 5.1 (also in my last fixpack for 4.1). In 5.0 you would only get one core. This is only one example of an issue that affected multiple triggered events including many of the Imperial Influence gain/loss events.

 

[unmerged(204522)]

bear in mind that the emperor only gets cores if he is also a member state of the HRE.....