Emmigration - Immigration

[pimparel]

There is a event trigger to support the emmigration movements, like germans, italian, polish, japan, dixies to Brasil?

 

[Luis de Aveiro]

I think a event for portuguese emmigration to Brazil was important, as in terms of the money they sent to the families still in Portugal, which helped for the economical-finacial equilibrium.

 

[pimparel]

Originally posted by Luis de Aveiro
I think a event for portuguese emmigration to Brazil was important, as in terms of the money they sent to the families still in Portugal, which helped for the economical-finacial equilibrium.

Sure, among others all around the world, irish to USA, spanish to ARG, etc.

But I wanna know if there is a command trigger to make a event.

Like

option_a = immigration=portuguese clerks province=666 value=10

 

[PMLF]

Nodody knows?

 

[Havard]

Originally posted by PMLF
Nodody knows?

Yes. The answer is no.

You can add or remove POPs through events, but not just like that. You'll need one event fo rPortugal removing the POP(s) and one for Brazil for receiving...

 

[PMLF]

Originally posted by Havard
Yes. The answer is no.

You can add or remove POPs through events, but not just like that. You'll need one event fo rPortugal removing the POP(s) and one for Brazil for receiving...

Thanks. Too bad a single event like this isn't possible.

 

[Dievs]

There were various 'soft' factors that affected the desirability of the country for immigrants.
Is there a way to model this ? I was thinking of modifiying the provinces life_rating, but that might have many side effects...

 

[Havard]

You can't do that because the general philosophy of the event commands are that they should only affect the country that receives the event - i.e. no Brazilian event that removes people in Portugal. But as I said, there are workarounds for that...

 

[pimparel]

Originally posted by Havard
You can't do that because the general philosophy of the event commands are that they should only affect the country that receives the event - i.e. no Brazilian event that removes people in Portugal. But as I said, there are workarounds for that...

Great, I can simulate the Imigration of let's say Japanese to Brazil, as:

Tag= Jap
remove pop=farmers value=500 province=xxx

Tag= Brz
add pop=farmers value=450 province=xxx

obs.: 50 japanese died on the travel:rofl:

And this minor removal o japanese Pop would not hamper the japanese in se.

Proposal: Havard, why you don't open a VIP thread for Immigration.

 

[Grosshaus]

Originally posted by pimparel
Proposal: Havard, why you don't open a VIP thread for Immigration.

Since VIP is mainly divided in regions? If you want Brazilian immigration events, use the South American thread.

 

[pimparel]

Originally posted by Grosshaus
Since VIP is mainly divided in regions? If you want Brazilian immigration events, use the South American thread.

If I must create events for both countries, how where the hell should i put the emmigration, since the immigration is south america.

Soon all the events would be lost, and since migration involves two countries not necessary from the same region, I think that there is a necessity of a thread. Just my 0,02 cents

 

[Guinnessmonkey]

Uh...

Brazilians......

Why don't you wait and see how immigration works in the game now before crafting events to hardcode it?

The immigration in Vicky, while not perfect, is fluid and great..... Why muss it up with events?

Edit: And this thread isn't really about pop modifications, but immigration... I'll move it to the main forum.

 

[Halibutt]

The way migration is simulated in Vicky is great and I must say I realy like it. However, at most times it only simulates local migration as opposed to true great exodi. Irish to US, Poles to the West and Siberia, Jews from Central Russia to Western Russia (aka Poland) and so on, and so forth.

I think this topic really deserves its' own thread in VIP. Especially that IRL most of such massive migrations ('though not all) had little or nothing to do with actual level of life, thus cannot be handled by Vicky properly (unless we make specific events lowering the level of life in certain provinces - which also needs a thread for coordination). How about that?
Cheers

 

[pimparel]

Originally posted by Halibutt
The way migration is simulated in Vicky is great and I must say I realy like it. However, at most times it only simulates local migration as opposed to true great exodi. Irish to US, Poles to the West and Siberia, Jews from Central Russia to Western Russia (aka Poland) and so on, and so forth.

I think this topic really deserves its' own thread in VIP. Especially that IRL most of such massive migrations ('though not all) had little or nothing to do with actual level of life, thus cannot be handled by Vicky properly (unless we make specific events lowering the level of life in certain provinces - which also needs a thread for coordination). How about that?
Cheers

Thanks, that was my proposal.

 

[MegaPIMP]

No evil hardcoded events I say, if Brazil wants immigration then it will have to be attractive.
And that is something that is all ready in the game.

 

[pimparel]

It's not only Brazil, but the Americas, and Oceania.

 

[pimparel]

Originally posted by MegaPIMP
No evil hardcoded events I say, if Brazil wants immigration then it will have to be attractive.
And that is something that is all ready in the game.

And to be attrative? I played swiss and in 1834 I had good health care, by 1850 all my social programs were good. 12 factories, all my RGO vacants, no war.

and...

No even a single immigrant even at the end of the game.