Embedded airforce: no alternative for micro'ing yet

[seattle]

First I gotta say: WtT truly shines with majors like Germany, ironically not the Chinese factions which are the focus of the expansion.

Now to the new embedded airforce feature. As you all are probably aware of: you can now embed air units into armies so that they are following the assigned army like one Hobbit follows another for some reason.

My Wehrmacht in 1941 was composed of:
- 3 * 24 infantry (width 40) --> each with 200 fighters and 200 CAS
- 2 * 12 panzer divs (width 40) --> each with 200 fighters and 200 CAS
- 1 * 12 mountain divs (width 18) --> with 200 fighters and 200 CAS
- 1 * 50 garrison (width 12)

Having 1200 fighters and 1200 CAS tied to armies, didn't leave me with a lot of planes to freely assign.
I figured, the embedded airforce would "greenlight" my offensive campaigns without micro'ing anyways.

The problem is: The planes stay where the majority of the assigned army is stationed.
Example "case white": Allies have air superiority over western and eastern Poland when my invasion starts. Why? Cause my embedded airforce is ruling the skies of Brandenburg and eastern Prussia where the invasion starts from. They only support the invasion force once it's already occupying the territory it's supposed to conquer.

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I would suggest that embedded airforce should stay with the assigned army until said army is starting an offensive order. Then the embedded airforce should move to the adjacent region the army is attacking.

What are your experiences with the new feature?

 

[Zauberelefant]

Same Here. CAS works in both Air regions, however. They can support in the attacker's province. So, fighters by and large need to Cover attacked Air Region, CAS and TAC on ground attack can safely be assigned to armies.
I would still assign small fighter wings to armies for ease of Management.

 

[seattle]

Same Here. CAS works in both Air regions, however. They can support in the attacker's province. So, fighters by and large need to Cover attacked Air Region, CAS and TAC on ground attack can safely be assigned to armies.
I would still assign small fighter wings to armies for ease of Management.

Ah, that's great regarding CAS and TAC. Wasn't aware of that.
For fighters it seems best to only use a smaller part for army attachment and have the majority for manual assignments.

 

[cunningstunts]

Great observation. @podcat what you think?

 

[seattle]

Another interesting question: what happens when you attach air wings to an army with garrison command that stretches over multiple air regions?
It is possible to do that, but I'd reckon that the air wings either remain in one region or constantly switch places.

 

[Dalnar]

Do you add just one huge 200 wing, or is the total number of all planes in small wings?

 

[seattle]

Do you add just one huge 200 wing, or is the total number of all planes in small wings?

I never micro, so one wing of 200.

 

[Zauberelefant]

I never micro, so one wing of 200.

I went to 50 CAS Wings for ground support. Appears to Work better, and the micro is almost non existant.

 

[AmpsterMan]

I found a good enough rule to assign wings of 100 CAS to my armies, manual control of my air Force in one giant 1000 wing unit.

 

[Vampiresoap]

Early game it's not that hard to micro. Consolidate every plane into one airfield, and then spam the D key 4 times. Voila! You now have size 125 wings waiting to be assigned to different airfields. It's when you have like 20,000 planes in mid-late game that the headaches start to hit....

 

[Admiral Piett]

So far I prefer to just assign them to air regions like before as I have full control over what they are up to. Assigning CAS to armies seems reasonably viable though. It doesn't know what to do with fighters.

 

[Forster]

What's the D key do? You can tell I don't use shortcuts.

 

[Vampiresoap]

What's the D key do? You can tell I don't use shortcuts.

It basically splits an airwing in two. One 1000-wing splits into two 500-wings, for example. Do it 4 times and you get eight 125-wings.

 

[Forster]

I see. Thanks.