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The People's Party opposes the Royalists' attack on the middle classes by shrinking the franchise to disclude the urban population and we encourage all prudent and moderate Assembly members, even those doomed to dwell in the Royalist Clique to join us in defeating this unworthy proposal.

De Valle
 
Motion to Authorize the Various Regions to Determine Electoral Policy
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I. It is recommended by this Audience that those Regions granted autonomy by decree of the Crown are to be given the authority to determine the system of suffrage used within their jurisdiction;

II. In exchange for the aforementioned power, those Regions shall be required to fund and manage elections occurring within their boundaries, pending a Royal Decree in times of extreme duress and danger;

III. Each Region will be authorized to appoint an electoral officer, whose duty shall solely be to administer elections within the confines of his jurisdiction, pending the final approval of the highest officer of His Majesty in that jurisdiction;

IV. In order to oversee and ensure the just implementation of such policies, it is recommended that His Majesty appoint an official whose sole capacity will be to oversee the electoral system, and who shall not simultaneously hold another post;

V. The City of Madrid shall henceforth be recognized as a separate region under the direct administration of His Majesty's Government.
 
I see no reason to divide the nation further, nor to permit wildly variant modes of elections from happening. It seems to be a retrograde move, and one that seems intent on lessening the kingdom's need for uniformity and effective government.

~ Pontevedra
 
The point of this Assembly is for the people of Spain, noticeably those with some influence, to voice their opinions and advise the king on matters pertaining to the governance of this fair nation. If we restrict this body to only landed nobility, this will severely hamper the Assembly's ability to advise His Majesty. A significant part of the population, some with vast amounts of wealth invested into industry and the Spanish economy, could no longer assist His Majesty. I would not be surprised that such blatant exclusion would make them feel as though their government does not represent them fairly and that they will take their business, and their vast wealth, elsewhere. I would hate for our nation's economy to suffer because Spain's most influential businessmen decided that they'd do better in a more favourable market like Britain. Seeing as the Assembly is a merely advisory body and any bill presented here must ultimately be approved by the king, a larger representation of the population would be preferable, allowing for the voicing of many different opinions from all loyal subjects of His Majesty, all while the king retains all the power. Limiting the franchise further would just lower the quality of advice being given due to the small segment of the population being represented in the adjusted Assembly.

- Fernando Armando Hernando Rolando Fernández
 
Riccardo93 said:
I see no reason to divide the nation further, nor to permit wildly variant modes of elections from happening. It seems to be a retrograde move, and one that seems intent on lessening the kingdom's need for uniformity and effective government.

~ Pontevedra
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"This would not be an act of division. Rather, by allowing for individual regions, which are already recognized by His Majesty as operating under his jurisdiction in conjunction with Madrid, to manage their own elections, we would both simultaneously end the present struggle, as well as accounting for local cultural differences. Certainly, His Majesty will retain all power which he would otherwise, with their decisions coming under the final review of His Majesty or his local representative.

"It is also important to note that, as the Assembly is primarily an advisory organ, and that seats are divided, in their present state, by these same regions, authorizing them to organize their own elections would not only take the burden off of the central organ, but also allow for them to most accurately provide the advice which is most important to their region. Unless the Interior Secretary would like to present a proper argument that the composition of this body is of the utmost importance, even as its very existence is presently superficial.


Cesc Roma,
Duc de Menorca,
Commerce Secretary
 
Speaker Act: Yes
Income Representation Equality Act*:Yes
Motion to Restrict the Franchise from Undue and Unfitting Persons*: No
Motion to Authorize the Various Regions to Determine Electoral Policy: Yes

The Socialist Party, as it always had, will continue to support expanding the rights of people in their ability to vote, while making sure that the power of the Monarch isn't trampled. These things can both happen at the same time, as the Duc de Menorca's bill shows.

Salbatore Verdejo,
líder del Partido Socialista
 
The Marquis turns towards one of his aides. "Inform Senor Verdejo that his posting in the Interior Secretariat has been made redundant."
 
Speaker Act: Yes
Motion to Authorize the Various Regions to Determine Electoral Policy: Yes
 
Coimbra has Fallen​

These were the words sent to the King from the military attache in Portugal. Reports have come in from Lisbon that the city of Coimbra has fallen to Liberal militants in Portugal. Miguel II has reportedly deployed half his army to retake the city of Coimbra from the rebels. The military attache says that the Portuguese army has no idea how many militants are in Coimbra, but they plan on putting the city under siege "until they break". Coimbra itself is an important city. Not only is it one of the most populated cities in Portugal, but it served as Portugal's capital when it was formed in the middle ages, before Lisbon was captured from the Moors. The city serves as a stepping stone to Lisbon, and the rebels will most likely utilize Coimbra to stage attacks closer to Lisbon with the hopes of beating back the Portuguese army. Miguel II has stated that Coimbra will be back in the hands of the rightful government of Portugal by Christmas of this year, a bold statement indeed...
 
Final Tally:

The Speaker Act passes with 262 yes votes, 50 no votes, and 88 abstentions.
The Income Representation Act passes with 173 yes votes, 150 no votes, and 77 abstentions
The Motion to Restrict the Franchise from Undue and Unfitting Persons fails with 150 yes votes, 173 no votes, and 77 abstentions
The Motion to Authorize the Various Regions to Determine Electoral Policy passes with 191 yes votes, 50 no votes, and 59 abstentions

The passed bills shall be sent to the State Council.

((If Mars wants to twist their arm convince them to vote a certain way, he has a day to do so))
 
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TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE STATE COUNCIL
((Revan - Private))​



Senor President,

We must inform you that We find it rather peculiar that the Royal Audience has passed two proposals that are completely contradictory in their nature. Either one sets a suffrage law that is one for one country and one nation by a national decree - or allows the regions themselves to set such policies. It is clear to Us that only one of these proposals may in fact be enforced without invalidating the other - and thus We had to deliberate which of the above сarries more sense and reason.

While We do understand that there is some value in the opinions that Our local bodies can understand better what systems can be more appropriately used in their regions, which are all different, We do not agree that there is much point in granting the middle class additional suffrage on the national level. Up to now Our dynasty has seen mainly disloyalty and lack of patriotism coming from the circles that politically associate themselves with this class - with the exception of clergy, officers and officials, who have served Us well. Anyhow there is no reason why We should now punish the nobility of Our nation preferring to them people who have done nothing to be rewarded and yet still excluding the poor class which has demonstrated much more loyalty to the Throne. If certain classes of our populace wish to get more voting rights, it should first establish itself as a constructive force.

For this reason We advise you to recommend to the body you lead to vote against the Income Representation Act. We have no principal opposition towards the other proposed decrees and would make no recommendations here waiting for the opinion of the State Council.

FELIPE

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*In the State Council, the debate rages on*

"Antonio María Marcilla de Teruel-Moctezuma y Navarro, the Duke of Moctezuma de Tultengo!"

"Thank you sir. I firmly believe that the Regional Act is a good idea for Spain's future. The idea of allowing the individual states of this Kingdom to decide, base on the regional audiences, what level of suffrage they shall have is a good idea for stability in the long run. Each state, based on how their population leans, can move the suffrage forward or backwards depending on the feelings of the people of those states. The more militant regions of our Kingdom will be able to convince their regional audience to increase the suffrage, while the regions with the more noble influences can see the suffrage move to accomendate for the opinions of said nobility. Thus, I wish for the State Council to vote in favor of this Decree!"
 
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