Egypt/Syria/Lebanon

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What will there status be in HOI2? Vanilla has them owned by GBR/FRA, Core has them independent. Puppets maybe? Some other designation? I have a hunch vanilla, because they havent turned up in any screenshots or on the list in "what can non-betas do". But one can hope. Playing as Egypt is fun.

 

[Sir Humphrey]

Not sure, but either way, it will eb interesting to see.

 

[Hardstuff]

What will there status be in HOI2? Vanilla has them owned by GBR/FRA, Core has them independent. Puppets maybe? Some other designation? I have a hunch vanilla, because they havent turned up in any screenshots or on the list in "what can non-betas do". But one can hope. Playing as Egypt is fun.

In history, they did not exist at the time. But what I hope is, they try to break free, and they are also in the "liberate puppet" bit.

 

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Well this quote from wikipedia basically sums up the debate:

Partially independent from the UK in 1922, Egypt acquired full sovereignty following World War II.

What does this mean to Hearts of Iron? Nation, puppet, full territory or something new?

Syria

Following the breakup of the Ottoman Empire during World War I, Syria was administered by France as a League of Nations Mandated Territory - the French had proclaimed themselves protectors of the region as early as the 18th century. The country was liberated from the Vichy government, and independence was declared in 1944, although foreign troops remained until 1946.

Lebanon

The country gained independence in 1943, and French troops withdrew in 1946

and Inner Mongolia, which CORE also has independent from the start:

Present-day eastern Inner Mongolia, then part of Manchuria, came under the control of the Japanese puppet state Manchukuo in 1931, and was administered thus until the end of the war in 1945.

In 1937, open war broke out between China and Japan. On December 8th, 1937, Mongolian Prince Teh Wang declared the independence of Inner Mongolia (except the parts already in Manchukuo) as Mengkiang or Mengkukuo and signed close agreements with Manchukuo and Japan, thereby turning Inner Mongolia to a puppet of the Japanese Empire. The capital was established at Chan Pei, near Kalgan, with the puppet government's control extending around Hohhot. In August 1945, Mengkiang was taken by Soviet-backed communist rebels.

So there you have the case for each. Personnally, I would include all 4 as puppets, but I'm no student of history.

 

[Semi-Lobster]

Present-day eastern Inner Mongolia, then part of Manchuria, came under the control of the Japanese puppet state Manchukuo in 1931, and was administered thus until the end of the war in 1945.

In 1937, open war broke out between China and Japan. On December 8th, 1937, Mongolian Prince Teh Wang declared the independence of Inner Mongolia (except the parts already in Manchukuo) as Mengkiang or Mengkukuo and signed close agreements with Manchukuo and Japan, thereby turning Inner Mongolia to a puppet of the Japanese Empire. The capital was established at Chan Pei, near Kalgan, with the puppet government's control extending around Hohhot. In August 1945, Mengkiang was taken by Soviet-backed communist rebels.

Mengukuo has always fascinated me but I never had that much in-depth info on them. I'd google 'Teh Wang' but I don't think I'd get what I'm looking for :wacko: ...