EGA5 Diplomatic and AAR thread

[Sir Dud]

The Russian Empire hereby informs the world of a slight imbalancing of the "balance of power" in this current war. Russia has decided to take Foreign Policy matters closer to home, and thus will with due time withdraw their troops from Austria. Russia will no longer fight anothers war, even though yes France is very powerful, Russia has had enough of fighting wars where nothing can be gained.

Basically: Neighbours beware

PS. Hopefully we'll have a OE player tomorrow .

 

[arcorelli]

The Russian Empire hereby informs the world of a slight imbalancing of the "balance of power" in this current war. Russia has decided to take Foreign Policy matters closer to home, and thus will with due time withdraw their troops from Austria. Russia will no longer fight anothers war, even though yes France is very powerful, Russia has had enough of fighting wars where nothing can be gained.

If one war means 'enough of fighting' then, really, Russian will is weak indeed. Portugal instruct their ambassadors not to worry much about Russian intentions, if they got enough fighting with this.

Russia had DOWed twice in the entire game. First, they DOWed for themselves -trying to get land for Russia. They failed, but well, that is not fighting other's wars. Second, they DOWed France. Only time they are fighting other's wars and that is 'had enough'.

 

[Casluerj]

Second, they DOWed France. Only time they are fighting other's wars and that is 'had enough'.

:rofl:

 

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Polish AAR: Storm is coming


Polish King Jacob IV lived long enough to know how balance strenght of his neighbours and deal with them well. Danzig, Pearl of Batlic, was still in enemy hands and polish side was prepared to get it at any cost. Soon, political situation created occasion for this quest - Austria wanted to fight Prussia - Poland wanted to attack simultanously, but Emperor wanted to fight 1on1 instead of seeing polish army in berlin ( because France or other country could support Prussia in such situation ) so he made a deal with polsih king - I will not bring up details here ( i did elsewher already ) you should know that brave aussie army beaten prussian army leaded by Frederick II the Great and Danzig had to be transfered to Poland. Unfortunately, Emperor policy was different than polish one, and he used his influence to prevent Poland from getting their part of the deal. Poland was betrayed by one of her best allies.

Until this time, Poland was peaceful country and friend of Austria, but this insult was to great to not respond on it with force. Polish king was furious and he decided to use his army and resources against Austria, which was alreay in great conflict against France.

With full treasury ( 8 000 d ) and strong army, Poland is marching into the conflict convinced about the purpose and goal of this war, leaving it's outcome to the God's hands, cannons and rifles...

 

[Sir Dud]

If one war means 'enough of fighting' then, really, Russian will is weak indeed. Portugal instruct their ambassadors not to worry much about Russian intentions, if they got enough fighting with this.

Russia had DOWed twice in the entire game. First, they DOWed for themselves -trying to get land for Russia. They failed, but well, that is not fighting other's wars. Second, they DOWed France. Only time they are fighting other's wars and that is 'had enough'.

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Ok maybe I expressed myself wrong, though the fact is that Russia has spent a lot of money fighting in fairly long meanless wars. Unlike Por who has only fought short costless wars...

In my opinion, Russia has not fought their "own" wars...the fact is that DA made deals which severely limited what I could do, though this is gonna change and i shall just disregard these deals (well no player in OE means the old deals with OE are void..). Sweden is fairly hard to fight in this scen, especially considering what can be gained, Poland DA signed an eternal "NAB" supposedly (plus im too nice to "destroy" POL , a scen with me as rus and a pol player too prolly aint a good idea lol), and OE "promises" have been made back in the day (by DA AND me). I would say that as of yet, Russia has not dowed for their own selfish reasons...

The "first" war which u refer to I guess is the one where we (por/rus) ended up "fighting", failed? I dunno, it was more a case of my allies peacing out, and me being left by myself to fight against two faraway nations (who are more powerful than usual, the map helping Por here). Basically with little or no navy I could just sit on my ass and watch forays into my territory by Por/NL, a stalemate more like . Plus this war was initially intended to get land from Pru to Pol, then Pol would "sell" me some land, this didnt quite work out tho...I didnt really expect to gain any Dutch land, mighty forts are mightily hard to take, especially with a good 200k anchored off shore..

Second war? Well it basically ended before it started for Russia.

So now Russia will attack a neighbour, which has much more promising returns rather than attacking far off countries etc. Plus do keep in mind that this is often the better (well safer) tactic for Russia, remain peaceful till towards the end..especially in this scen with an extremely powerful OE et al (well was powerful..)

Why would ur "ambassadors" or Por itself feel threatened by Russia anyhow? You have a navy, you are faraway. You are safe .

Anyhow, this aint the point of my previous post lol (and I dont know why i baffled on here..:S), my point was simply that we shall not be participating in war vs FRA with AUS/NL, and instead will be going for the more promising (well for Rus) OE.

 

[K'shar]

The Imperial Mission​

Europe exited one great conflict, only to dive headlong into another. The German wars ended with a tactically brilliant victory by Austrian High Command over the military genius of Frederick the Great.

The IFR then moved to secure itself against the one great remaining threat to it's western hegemony. This took the form of Austria-Holland, an unlikely alliance of two states that had plotted the Empire's demise for decades (in the case of Austria, centuries ).

To secure the Empire against the threat of a wider German-Dutch Coalition, Imperial diplomats cemented relations with our Spanish cousins and initiated: the "Revitalize England Project", a economic-political enterprise aimed at the creation of a powerful Imperial ally in the British Isles.

To this end, 8000 ducats where forwarded to these allies to aide in both their naval construction schemes and in England - the modernity of their fire arms. As for the Empire; a new 1 million man army was recruited as a peacetime force and the Navy was expanded to over 1100 ships-of-the-line.

Just prior to the war with the United Provinces and Austria, De Saxe: the Grand Marshal of France, settled the old financial debts of the Ottoman Empire by installing Imperial officials in the trade emporium of Alexandria. However, an uprising by the Janissaries overturned this agreement and Imperial forces found it necessary to take control of the Aegean area and Constantinople for a few months, while the specifics were worked out with the new Turkish government.

Fresh from this excursion, plan "Free Belgium, Free the Baltic, Free the Swiss" went into full gear as a million men set out for Brabant and the Imperial and Spanish fleets blockaded Holland. Under brilliant leadership the Imperial army shattered the Dutch forces in Brabant with over 600 thousand men engaged, forcing a retreat to Breda where the flooding of certain dikes forced a tactical withdrawl of our forces back to Brabant. Nonetheless, the maximum forts of Brussels were stormed successfully.

In the south, the Austrian Italian army invaded North Italy with it's eye set on the massive Imperial camp in Lombardia. Under von Daun and von Laudon and charged by their regular religious zeal austrian forces proved initially succesful by upsetting a Imperial army in Tirol, fresh and overconfident from an astounding victory over the Dutch in Switzerland. Following the heels of the retreating French, Laudon assaulted and occupied Brescia and continued the march towards Milan.

Begun as a conflict pitting England, Spain, Sweden and the IFR vs Holland, Prussia, Austria, Russia and the Ottoman Empire; the toll of war, the many enemies of Holland-Austria and the diplomatic tact and long reach of French diplomats has changed the entire dimension of the conflict. Russia has defected, Poland has joined the Imperial alliance and 500,000 French men march to meet the rich merchants of Holland for one last stand in Breda.

 

[Casluerj]

Spanish AAR

So it had come the time. Finally the Great War had started. In one side the IFR, Spain, England and Sweden in the other Austria, Netherlands, Prussia, Ottoman Empire and Russia. Portugal and Poland were only watching (one seeking for safety the other for mere opportunism). But this wasn’t what happened.

France got two diplomatic victories making Poland joining her side and Russia peace and indirectly helps attacking the Ottoman Empire. But the price that France had to pay for that was exactly punishing her allies, Spain and England that should fight for no gains, because of the peace limit (actually the King of France promised gains in the NEXT war against Netherlands). This was an insult! The King of Spain was thinking that Spain worth less than Poland and Russia potential French enemies.

Hot debates started to happen between the allies when the differences started to rise. England couldn’t forget the Swedish defeat against Spain and starter to insult the Spanish diplomat while Spain kept fighting for its right to gain spoils from the war. This obviously wouldn’t end fine.

But even this way the continuation of the war was approved by the Parliament. This was enough for a great anti-French movement in Madrid. Quickly the movement became stronger each day until the rebels reach the palace the killed K’arlos Sanchez son of the great K’sharin, the wise strategist behind the Spanish-French alliance and the Bourbon’s victory during the Spanish Succession War.

Immediately dissidents from the old Casluist Party took over the government and bring back from Wien Jose de Caslu’s son: Judas de Caslu. His first action was to ask the Parliament again about the continuation of the war on French side.

The Archduke of Austria, a wise man, was following everything very carefully and financed the return of Judas De Caslu. De Caslu, created in the Archduke’s court was indeed inclined to Austrian point of view and when he was declared prime-minister, a diplomat from Wien arrived in Madrid with a very good proposal: If Spain changes sides she would get Danzig, Mainz and Wuzburg plus protection from Austria. Despite this was a very good deal, Spain would still get off from the war without her rightfully claim, Guangdong. So a counter-proposal was made to the Archduke. He reluctantly accepted promising to talk with the Netherlands.

Of course Holland was afraid since, following the plans, Spain wouldn’t be attacking France (in a De Caslu’s try to not be very treacherous), but French allies: England and Sweden. After much consideration NL accepted.

But now it was Spain who was afraid. It was too risky to become enemy of the strongest and wealthiest (despite the little financial help) nation in the world. Spain final word was that she would only change sides if NL and Austria get Portugal to their side. Portugal seeing that it wouldn’t have to fight Spain immediately accepted to protect NL and then Spain signed the deal peacing NL and Austria for what was combined. It was a separate peace, because Spain didn’t want to make England left the war (as this would be seeing as gamey and dirty).

Meanwhile England was banned from the alliance and Portugal called into. When the declaration of war against England was pronounced very serious news arrived: England was now allies with France, so Spain and France was at war… This wasn’t planned!!

But this was what happened and Spain had to be prepared. The first month of war was the most important. Cordoba leading a combination of fleets managed to sink something around 800 enemies’ ships pretty much ending France power in sea and closing England into its island. This was the turning point of the war.

With Sea communication restored again, NL could finally free its country from occupation. Austria however was in danger. Poland, that joined French side, attacked together with the Ottoman Empire that left the good side. When Austrian situation was bad, Spain and Portugal managed to buy the Sultan to leave the war and concentrate himself against the Czar (that attacked Istanbul).

Formally Spain wasn’t at war against Poland so Austria couldn’t count with Spanish help in that particularly war. However Spain saw a way to help Austria, first using its Bavarian army to hold the front against France while the Austrians deal with Poland and second almost destroying French Mediterranean fleet that was adding good maneuver advantage to France.

With this help and the good Austrian generals, the German country finally took the offensive again almost driving Poland out of war and almost forcing peace against France.

In the New World, war is on Spanish hand. All English Californian possessions have been taken while a few French Louisiana cities also have fallen into Spanish forces. From time to time Spain also disembarks soldiers into English main territory in North America taking cities in Florida, New Scotia and Manhattan. In Caribbean Sea both English possessions, including the COT, are now under Spanish control.

Spain and Portugal are in a good situation and are now only waiting for Austria and NL to peace since Madrid wants a general peace and not separates peaces. It was decided in Madrid, however (because of the respect that France has in Spain), that no demands will be made to France, if the King of France shows reasonable and honestly peace without hard feelings. However England is now Spanish arch enemy and will be punished losing her COT in America and other colonies that will be decided in a proper time.

 

[arcorelli]

Ok maybe I expressed myself wrong, though the fact is that Russia has spent a lot of money fighting in fairly long meanless wars. Unlike Por who has only fought short costless wars...

Costless? We got a fairly fighting-with-your-backs-to-the-wall war (the spanish one, when we went on even with all our mainland invaded, sniff the proudest moment of the portuguese navy). And our previous war against Spain (and England) when we lost 250k soldiers I believe. Portugal had fought some very involved wars and had faced largers dangers, may I say it?, that the good Russia.

But indeed, our communication was about the words used. Russia is, was and will be free to take their decisions, Portugal do not have a right to criticize the Tzar, but we believe that the choice of words was not that happy.

 

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is it me or is there something very wrong with the font size on this page?

 

[Casluerj]

is it me or is there something very wrong with the font size on this page?

It is you

 

[joriandrake]

Two Crowns, One Land, One Pride
The 2nd Honfoglalás​

After the sacking and harassing of hungarians in Carpathia, the last noble with origins to even Árpád, rallied the nations warriors and traders, asked civilians to follow him, and started the second hungarian conquest for a new homeland. Sadly not all people did follow him, so they stayed in the occupated Carpathia.

The long march began:

After the long journey, half of the civilians were exhausted or dead. Why they have marched to scandinavia? Hungarians had a legend they had some relatives there. And they found some: the fins
in 50 years, the hungarian minority in sweden became strong, they made wine, goulash, and good bows/swords just like in their old homeland.
(the swords were even better with swedish steel)

Swedish man liked the hungarian girls, and the swedis royal family allowed them to become a semi-authority within borders. Peace was assured, and the grandson of the leader who led them to sweden married the only daughter of the swedish king. After a hunting accident, the swedish heir died, and the next on the throne would have been the hungarian noble, or his son, who was just 14 years old then.

Fate wanted swift results it seems:
swedish nobles assumed the hungarians did kill the original heir, and so a civil war broke out. Results:

-dead of revolt leaders
-dead of the old swedish king, and the nearly elected hungarian noble
-peace signed between factions
-3rd of hungarian population vanished
-both swedish and hungarian nobles agreed on having Árpád, the second as King of Sweden, the now 17 year old boy, who was good in economical and cultural education, but not the best as a fighter.

Also, a new CoA/flag became the official for the Swedish one:

(well, I don't know yet what gift I should take for the AAR, I'll decide later if i get save file)

 

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Nice AAR Even more concerning you haven't played yet

AAR prizes are determined randomly.

 

[joriandrake]

Nice AAR Even more concerning you haven't played yet

AAR prizes are determined randomly.

thanks, did not remember that

...can I ask for an RP prize? TO make two swedish provs hungarian, and to get hungarian culture?

 

[Casluerj]

thanks, did not remember that

...can I ask for an RP prize? TO make two swedish provs hungarian, and to get hungarian culture?

I think this is un-necessary and everything that add more work to our editor isnt a good idea. Next EGA you could be Austria, get hungarian culture and some hungarias provs.

 

[joriandrake]

I think this is un-necessary and everything that add more work to our editor isnt a good idea. Next EGA you could be Austria, get hungarian culture and some hungarias provs.

than I better start as Hungary, easier and more fun for me

 

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than I better start as Hungary, easier and more fun for me

Not really, Hungary is in orthodox tech group - not to mention lack of all these nice evetns & really good leaders.

But I would also choose my own country than some other to play in mp so...

 

[joriandrake]

Not really, Hungary is in orthodox tech group - not to mention lack of all these nice evetns & really good leaders.

But I would also choose my own country than some other to play in mp so...

I'm not a Powermonger' or a 'powerplayer', I like to have one-two specific goals in a game, as Hungary it would be:
stay independent, don't loose provs, and in the 'tech-rush' don't loose too much
....hmm...if I would get much of west europe could I get latin techteam? An interesting thought...


But back to EGA6: Byzantine, Hungary, Burgundy, or the Knights I would like

and now, just AAR-s

 

[arcorelli]

Chapter XVII: Portugal 1757-1763: The Great War, only great because the Portuguese are being great on it, of course​

And then Portugal decided, under the good regent Mios the Able, to enter war. The sudden change of Spain, the offer of alliance, the possibility to help Netherlands were all reasons enough to declare war. The Parliament approved the measure and then voted more taxes to finance the expenses, showing the complete approval by the common opinion of the war.

Portugal decided, also, that this time it was going to be a continental not a colonial war. And that the first step was to join the Great Naval Battles, where the combined fleet (dutch-spanish-portuguese) chased and sunk the proud Royal Navy and the Imperial Navy. And after that, under our most glorious general (*), the PEF (Portuguese Expeditionary Forces) fought in Netherlands and in Northern France. Other troops decided to attack the island of Ceylon and discover the pleasures of tea.

But, as always, not all our subjects were happy with the war. The indian population -it is wise that they are outside of Parliament- decided that any war was too much and rebelled in several places. Our forces are showing them that if they want to go in violent ways, better could be to die under the glorious portuguese flag instead of suffering the death of rebels.

And so the years passed, full of battle, rebellions and stagnated income. So it was decided that a change of strategy was neccesary. War should end, some way or another; and should end soon.

(*) The Courier of Lisbon -a pesky newspaper- noted that all generals were alwaya our most glorious. But everyone read the Gazette, full of information about all the great portuguese victories.

 

[K'shar]

The Crucible of Europe​

The vessel unto which Europe would find it's destiny, was not discovery, invention or art ... but war. The fields of Belgium were drenched in the blood of noble French and Dutch men, while the holy Kingdom of Italy was beset by the tyranny of Austrian arms.

The great world war dragged on for yrs, a decisive decision put off by the grand treachery of Spain, a nation perched on the heap of historical excrement of diplomacy (as percieved by Europe at large). The Spanish treachery ensured a tactical retreat of the Imperial fleet from its' blockade over Holland, in turn the Spanish invasion of France/Italy forced the rapid re-allocation of imperial forces. The domination over the Netherlands was lost and the possibility of an early peace with it.

Nonetheless, fighting a Dutch, Prussian, Spanish, and Portuguese coalition in Holland, Spanish forces in south France, and Austrian troops in Italy the Imperium held fast. The coalition of the treacherous (now apparently joined by Sweden) were consistently frustrated in their attempts to undermine the Empire and its' noble friends. Austria was being run bankrupt by it's two front war in Bohemian/Italy and subsequently lost its hold in North Italy. Spain was met and stopped in Southern France and consistently embarressed in its' attempts to hold the Italian province of Ferrara.

In Holland, Imperial forces generally held the initiative, upsetting better led and numerically superior coalition forces, nonetheless a strategic retreat was necessary to account for the opening of the Spanish front.

As the current yr stands; Imperial forces stand on the cusp of re-occupying Holland with only a 100,000 Dutch troops remaining in defence. Austrian paths in the Alps and Carinthia are held by advanced forces and the road to Vienna is open. In the Americas', Imperial/English forces prosecute a active war against Spain.

Neither side appears rdy for peace, and both still clamour for demands ... there can only be one victor in this contest ... will it go to the coalition of the noble? (the Emperor in Paris and friends) or to the coalition of gluttonous swine? (gamey Austria, Sweden, and treacherous Spain).

Time will tell.

 

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Might someone be willing to post some screenshots showing the current state of the world?