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Casluerj said:
YEAH strong Poland... good relations... released... Russia reafirm...
what have all the European monarchs have to say about the growing russia?
I for one do not see kindly its pathetic attempts to colonise the Hispaniola island.
The barbarians from the north should stay confined to their snowy lands and not show themselves in the civilized world.
The Spanish Empire is not threatened directly by Russia's annexing spree, and the Czar might even be a friend of mine, but i feel that i have to protest against the forced "integration" of the Polish people in the Czar's multinational and multireligious conglomerate.
The thing i find most disturbing is that the Czar, a man of infinite wisdom, allows his advisors to fill his head with such crazy ideas of world domination.
Felipe III Habsburg. Emperor of the New World, King of Spain and Portugal, of Sicily and Sardinia, Duke of Toscana and North Africa, Protector of Rome, Grand Master of the Knights of Malta.
I for one do not see kindly its pathetic attempts to colonise the Hispaniola island.
The barbarians from the north should stay confined to their snowy lands and not show themselves in the civilized world.
The Spanish Empire is not threatened directly by Russia's annexing spree, and the Czar might even be a friend of mine, but i feel that i have to protest against the forced "integration" of the Polish people in the Czar's multinational and multireligious conglomerate.
The thing i find most disturbing is that the Czar, a man of infinite wisdom, allows his advisors to fill his head with such crazy ideas of world domination.
Felipe III Habsburg. Emperor of the New World, King of Spain and Portugal, of Sicily and Sardinia, Duke of Toscana and North Africa, Protector of Rome, Grand Master of the Knights of Malta.
Fnuco said:
All lands colonized by Russian in North America are for sale for both the English or the Spanish King, but pay attention that i wont consider puny offers.
About barbarians I have no douby to affirm that barbarians are those from west. But I do hope that one day you barbarians back to the true christendom
Fnuco said:
Well our most wise Tzar had his opinion about that. He bluntly said that he does not give a quote "fuck" what Europe thinks.
Nabukodonosor said:
Yes, it is true. Russian diplomatic blunders have managed to turn three former friends of the Czar against him and thats without war
. Britain in arm with Spain and France are willing to support nations that feel under threat from the slovenly practices of the cossack hordes. A free Poland, a Free Finland is what we look for to abate our fears. Your pointless forays into Florida and Hispaniola do nothing but aggravate the situation.Viscount K'shar the III Special Liason to the Imperial Affairs Council and the Crown
Message to the Russian Ambassador in London
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Nabukodonosor said:
Europe means France, England and Spain the most barbarians nations in the world...
Casluerj said:
Interesting.... has the power blinded you completely??? France financed your wars and now we are barbarians??
I have a message from my lord, His Most Catholic Majesty Emperor Felipe III
In view of the current events in Europe, the Emperor decided that no alliance made previously has any precedence over the Russian problem. Alliances, formal or informal, will be made with other European countries to counterbalance the Russian invasion.
Yes, an invasion it is. How else could we civilized men describe the Russian tidal wave sweeping over the good people of Sweden and Poland? In the beginning Sweden and Denmark had to choose who to ally Russia, the other being doomed. The price Denmark paid so Sweden could be destroyed was vassalage to the Russian empire. With Sweden out of the European equation, Polish kings have been deceived with tales of friendship and alliance and royal marriages and mutual help.
Is this how Russia helps its friends? by annexing them? If so, Spain is afraid to decalre itself a friend of Russia. If this reveals to be a dangerous pattern the Czars will follow in the course of history, then Denmark should already be trembling, for we have all seen what being a vassal of Russia means. This brings us to the first point. The kingdom of Denmark is invited to break vassalship, or risk losing its colonies in North Africa.
The Spanish Emperor is considering also creating a continental blockade against Russia, hoping that economic sanctions will make the Czar realise the error of his ways. I hope other monarchs will sign a treaty in this matter.
Countries friendly towards Russia will be considered to have lost their national identity, for becoming friend of Russia is obviously equal to signing a death sentence, as Russia's friends are "integrated peacefully" in the glorious Northern Empire. "Who is not with us is against us" Alessandro Farnese once said.
Last but not least, the very fact that countries like England, France and Spain, on the other side of Europe, raise their voices in protest against the Russian behemoth in the East should make the others realise the threat Russia represents to European stability. England, as well as France or Spain, could easily not be involved in this affair and let Austria, Brandenburg, The Ottoman Empire, Denmark or Persia suffer. Still Spain at least offers its support to whoever will stand in the way of "the Russian steamroller", as minister K'shar III defined it, and i am sure other countries will.
And a question for my Russian homologue: what is the reason behind the Russian attempt to interfere with Spanish colonial development?
Francisco de Sandoval y Rojas, Duque de Lerma Spanish foreign affairs minister, open letter to the Court of Moscow
In view of the current events in Europe, the Emperor decided that no alliance made previously has any precedence over the Russian problem. Alliances, formal or informal, will be made with other European countries to counterbalance the Russian invasion.
Yes, an invasion it is. How else could we civilized men describe the Russian tidal wave sweeping over the good people of Sweden and Poland? In the beginning Sweden and Denmark had to choose who to ally Russia, the other being doomed. The price Denmark paid so Sweden could be destroyed was vassalage to the Russian empire. With Sweden out of the European equation, Polish kings have been deceived with tales of friendship and alliance and royal marriages and mutual help.
Is this how Russia helps its friends? by annexing them? If so, Spain is afraid to decalre itself a friend of Russia. If this reveals to be a dangerous pattern the Czars will follow in the course of history, then Denmark should already be trembling, for we have all seen what being a vassal of Russia means. This brings us to the first point. The kingdom of Denmark is invited to break vassalship, or risk losing its colonies in North Africa.
The Spanish Emperor is considering also creating a continental blockade against Russia, hoping that economic sanctions will make the Czar realise the error of his ways. I hope other monarchs will sign a treaty in this matter.
Countries friendly towards Russia will be considered to have lost their national identity, for becoming friend of Russia is obviously equal to signing a death sentence, as Russia's friends are "integrated peacefully" in the glorious Northern Empire. "Who is not with us is against us" Alessandro Farnese once said.
Last but not least, the very fact that countries like England, France and Spain, on the other side of Europe, raise their voices in protest against the Russian behemoth in the East should make the others realise the threat Russia represents to European stability. England, as well as France or Spain, could easily not be involved in this affair and let Austria, Brandenburg, The Ottoman Empire, Denmark or Persia suffer. Still Spain at least offers its support to whoever will stand in the way of "the Russian steamroller", as minister K'shar III defined it, and i am sure other countries will.
And a question for my Russian homologue: what is the reason behind the Russian attempt to interfere with Spanish colonial development?
Francisco de Sandoval y Rojas, Duque de Lerma Spanish foreign affairs minister, open letter to the Court of Moscow
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Fnuco said:
King of Scandinavia and Eternal Friend of Czar is highly amused that Spanish King wants to partition the world on friends and enemies of Czar. Denmark is allied with Russia since 80 years - Czars were always good allies of the Danish Kings. When Sweden attacked my Realm and took Skane and Gotland, everybody said "poor Denmark" but no one wanted to help. No one except Russia. Now Spanish King is threating King of Scandinavia, with losing of its colonies and tries to meddle in Scandinavia internal policies !?! Who gave You, my Dear Spanish Friend, such law ?Our relationship were good, but you were always far from the affairs of the Scandinavia and you still are...
o King of Scandinavia will not blockade Russian trade lines.
Matter of vassalship is delicate one - it will not be discussed openly.
Fnuco said:
Well, we uncivilised barbars support many of the things Spain had said, although it may be in a bit undiplomatic ways. France considered itself friend of Russia and send it a lot of money. Response was blackmail, insults and when France wanned to sign NAP with Russia it was rejected. French-Russian relations are greatly hurt I must admit.
The 'problem' the Western kings call Russia is a diplomactic failure on their part. If the French and Spanish kings had not bothered in Austrian affairs for so long, Austria along with Poland and Brandenburg could of stopped the fall of Sweden and later of Poland itself.
Now the Margrave has allied itself with France, I don't see how the western kings can break up the Northern Alliance, since Austria is safer allied to Russia and Denmark than to Spain or England.
Also the Dutch pledge themselves to no-one, wanting to build up before aligning to any power block.
Former Austrian mastermind...
Now the Margrave has allied itself with France, I don't see how the western kings can break up the Northern Alliance, since Austria is safer allied to Russia and Denmark than to Spain or England.
Also the Dutch pledge themselves to no-one, wanting to build up before aligning to any power block.
Former Austrian mastermind...
Nabukodonosor said:
What you call finance? Send 150d-200d in a war? If yes, you are right.
But indeed, I had a wonderful relationship with Nab the first and his Kings. After his death situation get complicated. When Nab II rose to the throne he was cleary an anti-russian leader. And so we are starting to consider France as an ex-Friend.
Interesting how the Spanish KING like to pervert things. Poland joined voluntary my Empire. It wasnt definetly, in the same way that your nation did with Portugal! Now what are your plans with Portugal? Wont you annex it? After taking all portuguese European provs by war and then vassalizing it, have yo uthe right to create a Holy Crusade against us?
Let talk about Italy? Where is Naples? Sicily? Oh my Holy God... Where is the Pope ???? Now you come to Moscow to say that we are barbarians and agreesives and taht you want to create an alliance against Russia? Should we talk about Algiers? Morroco? Or should us stop here??
And France? What she did with the emerging Fladern duchy?? Was shameful? And Swiss men? England took the once Great Kingdom of Scotland? What the others said? And Ireland? What to say?? You western come to the civilized east world talking about gfood manners when your past is fullfield with sins!
Russia would like to state clearly that the Polish partition was agreed with Austria, Brandenburg and Ottoman Empire, all russian friends. All those nations gained lands that were unfairly hold by Poland. Also the friendship with Persia is still in a very good way. This is what matter to us.
About Denmark is very funny how the Spanish KING change the reallity. My pact with the Scandinavian King is a friendly one. I helped him a lot, but I consider him as a brother. I saved his country thousand of times, invanded by germans (BB and Austria) from the south and Swedish rebles from the north. And as the King of Scandinavia said you are not invited to put your dirty hands into internal Scandinavian-Russian issues.
Also the REAL emperor of the west is a Russian friend and this show us that the true west consider Russia kindly and this is what matters, no what an usurpator of titles and his puppet pope thinks.
Signed by the Czar of the Russian Empire.
Let talk about Italy? Where is Naples? Sicily? Oh my Holy God... Where is the Pope
???? Now you come to Moscow to say that we are barbarians and agreesives and taht you want to create an alliance against Russia? Should we talk about Algiers? Morroco? Or should us stop here??And France? What she did with the emerging Fladern duchy?? Was shameful? And Swiss men? England took the once Great Kingdom of Scotland? What the others said? And Ireland? What to say?? You western come to the civilized east world talking about gfood manners when your past is fullfield with sins!
Russia would like to state clearly that the Polish partition was agreed with Austria, Brandenburg and Ottoman Empire, all russian friends. All those nations gained lands that were unfairly hold by Poland. Also the friendship with Persia is still in a very good way. This is what matter to us.
About Denmark is very funny how the Spanish KING change the reallity. My pact with the Scandinavian King is a friendly one. I helped him a lot, but I consider him as a brother. I saved his country thousand of times, invanded by germans (BB and Austria) from the south and Swedish rebles from the north. And as the King of Scandinavia said you are not invited to put your dirty hands into internal Scandinavian-Russian issues.
Also the REAL emperor of the west is a Russian friend and this show us that the true west consider Russia kindly and this is what matters, no what an usurpator of titles and his puppet pope thinks.
Signed by the Czar of the Russian Empire.
Casluerj said:
150d-200d in a war x 5 iirc and against Poland, also I think that you have problems with determining size, importance and players. As I remember, Porto was left without perm, Scotland never had one and Poland had perm who didn't know IP adress. Btw, you can't level Poland with Scotland in size, importance or any other way. Earendil left because of your blackmails and that is his words not mine. In Scotland and Flandres nobody left and Joo volontarily moved to OE. Grabbah didn't knew IP adress and haven't had our ICQs and u used it in a way that is not correct imo. That is as if Flamey incidentaly became vassal of OE, come late to session and Joo annexed him. This is not the same as annexing Scotland or Papal States. Considering our relations you were so nice and polite when you needed money and support. Once you get rid of Sweden and anexed Poland I offered you NAP. You told me that it has to be really good offer if I want NAP. And of course NAB the II is guilty.
Casluerj said:Let talk about Italy? Where is Naples? Sicily? Oh my Holy God... Where is the Pope
Pedro III, king of Aragon from 1276 until 1285, had been elected to the throne of Sicily when the French Angevins (House of Anjou) were expelled from the island kingdom during an uprising in 1282.
During the reign of Joanna I of Naples began the struggle for succession between Charles of Durazzo (later Charles III of Naples) and Louis of Anjou (Louis I of Naples). The struggle was continued by their heirs. Charles's descendants, Lancelot and Joanna II, successfully defended their thrones despite papal support of their French rivals, but Joanna II successively adopted as her heir Alfonso V of Aragón and Louis III and René of Anjou, and the dynastic struggle was prolonged. Alfonso defeated René and in 1442 was invested with Naples by the pope.
Ferdinand and Isabella were the last of the Trastamaras. When their sole male heir, John, who was to have inherited all his parent's crowns, died in 1497, the succession to the throne passed to Juana, John's sister. But Juana had become the wife of Philip the Handsome, heir through his father, Emperor Maximilian I, to the Hapsburg patrimony. On Ferdinand's death in 1516, Charles of Ghent, the son of Juana and Philip, inherited Spain (which he ruled as Carlos I, 1516-56), its colonies, and Naples. (Juana, called Juana Loca or Joanna the Mad, lived until 1555 but was judged incompetent to rule.) When Maximilian I died in 1519, Charles also inherited the Hapsburg domains in Germany. Shortly afterward he was selected Holy Roman emperor, a title that he had held as Charles V (1519-56), to succeed his grandfather.
When he abdicated in 1556 to retire to a Spanish monastery, Charles divided his empire. His son, Philip II (1556-98), inherited Spain and the Italian possessions.
For a brief period (1554-58), Philip was also king of England as the husband of Mary Tudor (Mary I).
In 1578 Sebastian, King of Portugal and nephew of Philip II, went on a military expedition to North Africa where he disappeared, leaving the Portugese throne to his elderly great-uncle, Enrique, Cardinal and Archbishop of Lisbon. But Enrique I would live only another two years, in which period another nephew of Enrique I, Antonio, made claims to be legitimate and that (as his deceased father Luis, Duke of Beja, was six years older than Enrique I) he should be king instead of Enrique. Enrique I then ordered an inquiry in which all papers proving Antonio's legitimacy disappeared. In 1580 Enrique I died and, Felipe II of Spain was proclaimed king.
The Duchy of Parma was created in 1545 from that part of the Duchy of Milan south of the Po river, as a fief for pope Paul III's illegitimate son, Pier Luigi Farnese. In 1556, the second Duke, Ottavio Farnese, was also given the Duchy of Piacenza. Margaret of Parma was the illegitimate daughter of Charles V and the mother of Alessandro Farnese, the Duke of Parma. She was also the half-sister of Philip II, thus giving the Spanish Habsburgs rights not only as feudal lords of the Duchies of Parma and Piacenza, but also direct succession rights.
As for the Spanish Emperor being Protector of Rome, the Popes have asked protection to the Aragonese king first in 1378, when pope Calixtus III (Alfonso de Borgia). The title of Protector passed to the kings of Spain and then to the Emperors.
As for the title of Emperor, now that the Czar knows about the Spanish posessions in the New World, he has to recognize the title, for it is obvious the Colonies form a true Empire. The Spanish Emperor will be also HRE as long as the excommunication on the Austrian Habsburg lasts. This bulla will be liftes as soon as the Archduke of Austria will join the righteous way of the Habsburgs, and cease to be a friend of Russia.
The African posessions are Spanish by the right of conquest: Morocco, Algiers, Tunisia. Surely the Czar will not attract the rage of all the Christian world by disputing the Spanish provinces in Berber Africa.
Francisco de Sandoval y Rojas, Duque de Lerma Spanish foreign affairs minister, open letter to the Court of Moscow
I never received such ammount of money from you for sure.
fixing: Poland hadnt a player since Ear left the game. Grabah played as a Vnetter in a session and told that would appear in the other. And yes, my ICQ is on my sig so he could get on us by ICQ whenever he wants. When i saw Poland as AI i had no doubt...
Well he never told me so. If this is really what he said, well... he is not a EU2 player. But I am sure he didnt told you that, since I play with him from a long time ago.
And you guys didnt wait at least ONE... just ONE ONE ONE session to start to gangbang Portugal... Portugal WAS a player nation and heheheh.. the goodness French And Spanish King took the advantage of the only session it hasnt a player to attack and split Portugal...no point for you
Nono. Flamey IS a regular player. Persia is a regular nation. Poland was one until Ear left, then it got subbed for thousand of players and for two sessions was sometimes played sometimes AIed. So once again no point for you
You offered me NAP to once again attack Austria exactly in a time when Engel changed country and Grabah, still inexperient, came to Austria. So who is the real badboy? I wont let you attack Austria, at least for now... so no points for you again (almost negatives points
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