EEP North Africa

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In the later part of the EU period they were independent of Tripoli. Didn't the US marines march in and intimidate the ruler into providing support against Tripoli?

 

[Garbon]

Originally posted by Isaac Brock
In the later part of the EU period they were independent of Tripoli. Didn't the US marines march in and intimidate the ruler into providing support against Tripoli?

Well, first of all, the flag/shield currently used for Cyrenaica is cited on this site (http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/ly_cyren.html#1947) of coming into existence in 1947 and at the earliest 1919.

Other than that, the earliest reference I can find to it is in 1912.

From 1711-1835 the Karamanli dynasty ruled in Tripoli over Cyrenaica and Tripolitania, so Cyrenaica could not have been independent.

Additionally, the current monarch file for Cyrenaica only runs till 1790ish or so (not even covering the time when US was at war with Tripoli). One of the monarchs Euldj Ali ruled in Tlemcen and not Cyrenaica. Also an Al Mansur appears to have ruled during the EU reign of an Al Mansur in Cyrenaica, although he ruled in Fezzan(nearby PTI location). The only site, when searching google, that lists any of the monarch names with Cyrenaica or a combination (Euldj Ali and Senous) is a website listing the monarchs of EU

It appears that Cyrenaica was never independent until the 20th century. If so, it should be removed as a revolter. The tag could be better used to represent Algeria or some other location.

I wonder what Paradox was thinking...

 

[Garbon]

Originally posted by Garbon
I haven't completely posted it yet (other than the little bit above), but I have a whole new plan concerning Fez and Morocco. As we all now/the description for Fez states, Fez never really was a nation. Therefore Morocco should start off owning Fez and Tangiers with its capital in Tobukal. Morocco should, ideally, become Fez when the Wattasids take over in 1472. In 1505 when the Wattasid dynasty lost virtual control over southern Morocco, the bottom half revolts away. So Tangiers, Tobukal, and Fez are owned by Fez while everything southwards is owned by Morocco. Eventually Morocco should overpower Fez and absorb it completely so that the reign of the Sa'dis can truly begin.

Of course, in this sequence there are many extra events in case Morocco stays Morocco post 1472 or Fez overpowers Morocco post 1505. This sequence should make more sense once I debug & post the events.

garbon

As stated here is my event sequence for Morocco and Fez, however I haven't tested it because I found out the old sequence was too much for the game to handle (bizarre bugs occurred) and so I had to scrap it. Oh well, I'll test eventually

[FONT=courier new][color=white]event = {
id = 85000
random = no
trigger = { 
	NOT = { event = 85006 }
	atwar = no 
}
country = MOR
name = "The Fate of Morocco"
desc = "In the 15th century, the Wattasid dynasty was finally able to act on their claim as the rightful rulers of Morocco.  The long civil war was over with the Wattasids as the victors.  However it proved difficult to rule all of Morocco from their capital in Fez. In the south, local tribesmen and Sufi orders, most notably the Jazuliyyas, harassed Moroccan cities limiting any control the Wattasids may have had."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1472 }
action_a = {
	name = "Support the Wattasid dynasty"
	command = { type = country which = FEZ } 
	command = { type = removecore which = 1595 } 
	command = { type = removecore which = 805 } 
	command = { type = colonialrevolt which = -1 } 
	command = { type = stability value = 2 }
	command = { type = revoltrisk which = 72 value = 1 } 
	command = { type = sleepevent which = 85043 } 
	}
action_b = {
	name = "Anarchy shall prevail!"
	command = { type = stability value = -4 }
	command = { type = removecore which = 732 } 
	command = { type = removecore which = 733 } 
	command = { type = removecore which = 806 } 
	command = { type = revoltrisk which = 60 value = 2 } 
	command = { type = revolt which = -1 } 
	}
}

event = {
id = 85006
random = no
trigger = { 
	atwar = yes
	NOT = { event = 85000 } 
}
country = MOR
name = "The Fate of Morocco"
desc = "In the 15th century, the Wattasid dynasty was finally able to act on their claim as the rightful rulers of Morocco.  The long civil war was over with the Wattasids as the victors.  However it proved difficult to rule all of Morocco from their capital in Fez. In the south, local tribesmen and Sufi orders, most notably the Jazuliyyas, harassed Moroccan cities limiting any control the Wattasids may have had."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1472 }
action_a = {
	name = "Support the Wattasid dynasty"
	command = { type = country which = FEZ } 
	command = { type = removecore which = 1595 } 
	command = { type = removecore which = 805 } 
	command = { type = colonialrevolt which = -1 } 
	command = { type = colonialrevolt which = -1 } 
	command = { type = stability value = 1 }
	command = { type = revoltrisk which = 84 value = 1 } 
	command = { type = sleepevent which = 85043 } 
	}
action_b = {
	name = "Anarchy shall prevail!"
	command = { type = stability value = -3 }
	command = { type = removecore which = 732 } 
	command = { type = removecore which = 733 } 
	command = { type = removecore which = 806 } 
	command = { type = revoltrisk which = 60 value = 4 } 
	command = { type = revolt which = -1 } 
	command = { type = revolt which = -1 } 	
	}
}

event = {
id = 85007
trigger = {
	domestic = { type = centralization value = 5 } 
	NOT = { exists = MOR }
}
random = no
country = FEZ
name = "The Unfocused Wattasids"
desc = "The Wattasids were excessive and attempted to wield to much control over the country which led to rebellions by local tribesmen and Sufi orders. The groups felt that the Wattasids needed to place a greater importance on battling the Christian Iberian states."
style = 2
date = { day = 1 month = november year = 1504 } 
action_a = {
	name = "We were foolish"
	command = { type = stability value = -2 } 
	command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -2 } 
	command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 804 value = 15 } 
	command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 805 value = 15 } 
	command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 1595 value = 15 } 
	command = { type = revoltrisk which = 24 value = 25 } 
	command = { type = revolt which = 804 } 
	command = { type = revolt which = 805 } 
	command = { type = revolt which = 1595 } 
	command = { type = revolt which = 804 } 
	command = { type = revolt which = 805 } 
	command = { type = revolt which = 1595 } 
	command = { type = revolt which = 806 } 
	command = { type = revolt which = 806 }
	command = { type = desertion which = -1 value = 5000 }
	command = { type = desertion which = -1 value = 5000 }
	command = { type = desertion which = -1 value = 5000 }
	}
}

event = {
	id = 85008
	trigger = {
		NOT = {
			domestic = { type = centralization value = 5 }
			exists = MOR 
     		}	
	}
	random = no
	country = FEZ
	name = "The Ineffective Wattasids"
	desc = "With the Portuguese becoming more in more involved in Morocco, local tribes and Sufi orders revolted against the Wattasids. The felt that the Wattasids needed to place a greater importance on expelling the Christians."
	style = 2
	date = { day = 1 month = november year = 1504 } 
	action_a = {
		name = "We were foolish"
		command = { type = stability value = -4 } 
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 804 value = 20 } 
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 805 value = 20 } 
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 1595 value = 20 } 
		command = { type = revolt which = 804 } 
		command = { type = revolt which = 805 } 
		command = { type = revolt which = 1595 } 
		command = { type = revolt which = 804 } 
		command = { type = revolt which = 805 } 
		command = { type = revolt which = 1595 } 
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 } 
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 } 
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 } 
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 24 value = 10 } 
		command = { type = desertion which = -1 value = 5000 }
		command = { type = desertion which = -1 value = 5000 }
		command = { type = desertion which = -1 value = 2000 }
	}
}

event = {
id = 85040
random = no
trigger = { 
	NOT = { exists = MOR }
	atwar = no 
	OR = { 
		control  = { province = 1595 data = REB }
		control   = { province = 805 data = REB }
		control   = { province = 806 data = REB }
	}
}
country = FEZ
name = "The Sufi Orders Rebel"
desc = "In the south, local tribesmen who claimed descent from the prophet Muhammad and Sufi orders, most notably the Jazuliyyas, gained southern Morocco virtual autonomy. Latter, this would be the birthplace of the Sa'di dynasty."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1505 }
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1540 }
action_a = {
	name = "Those pesky orders!"
	command = { type = independence which = MOR }
	command = { type = trigger which = 85002 } 
	}
}

event = {
id = 85042
random = no
trigger = { 
	NOT = { exists = MOR }
	atwar = yes
	OR = { 
		control   = { province = 1595 data = REB }
		control   = { province = 805 data = REB }
		control   = { province = 806 data = REB }
		control   = { province = 733 data = REB }
		control   = { province = 732 data = REB }
	}
}
country = FEZ
name = "The Sufi Orders Rebel"
desc = "In the south, local tribesmen who claimed descent from the prophet Muhammad and Sufi orders, most notably the Jazuliyyas, gained southern Morocco virtual autonomy. Latter, this would be the birthplace of the Sa'di dynasty."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1505 }
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1540 }
action_a = {
	name = "Those pesky orders!"
	command = { type = independence which = MOR }
	command = { type = trigger which = 85002 } 
	}
}

event = {
id = 85043
random = no
trigger = { 
	NOT = { exists = FEZ }
	OR = { 
		control   = { province = 1595 data = REB }
		control   = { province = 805 data = REB }
		control   = { province = 806 data = REB }
		control   = { province = 733 data = REB }
		control   = { province = 732 data = REB }
	}
}
country = MOR
name = "The Wattasid Dynasty emerges"
desc = "From the 15th to 16th centuries, the Wattasid dynasty was finally able to end the civil war and act on their claim as the rightful rulers of Morocco.  The long civil war was over with the Wattasids as the victors.  However it would prove difficult to rule all of Morocco from their capital in Fez and appease the masses."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1473 }
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1540 }
action_a = {
	name = "We are the Wattasids!"
	command = { type = country which = FEZ } 
	command = { type = removecore which = 1595 } 
	command = { type = removecore which = 805 } 
	}
action_b = {
	name = "We are the Jazuliyyas!"
	command = { type = capital which = 805 } 
	command = { type = independence which = FEZ }
	command = { type = addcore which = 1595 } 
	command = { type = addcore which = 805 } 
	command = { type = trigger which = 85001 } 
	command = { type = add_countryculture which = berber }
	command = { type = remove_countryculture which = arabic }  
	}
}

event = {
id = 85044
random = no
trigger = { 
	NOT = { exists = MOR }
}
country = FEZ
name = "The Sa'di dynasty"
desc = "Despite the best efforts of the Wattasids to unify the country, they just couldn't establish order. Neither did they have the lasting power of their rivals, the Sa'di dynasty. In 1545, Muhammad al-Sheik was proclaimed sultan in Marrakesh after he captured the Portuguese fortress of Agadir in 1541. The Sa'di dynasty was supported by the masses of Morocco and eclipsed the Wattasids."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1545 }
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1665 }
action_a = {
	name = "Goodbye Wattasids!"
	command = { type = country which = MOR } 
	}
}

event = {
id = 85045
random = no
trigger = { 
	NOT = { exists = FEZ }
}
country = MOR
name = "The Sa'di dynasty"
desc = "Despite the best efforts of the Wattasids to unify the country, they just could not gain enough power to end the civil war. Neither did they have the lasting power of their rivals, the Sa'di dynasty. In 1545, Muhammad al-Sheik was proclaimed sultan in Marrakesh after he captured the Portuguese fortress of Agadir in 1541. The Sa'di dynasty was supported by the masses of Morocco and eclipsed the Wattasids."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1545 }
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1665 }
action_a = {
	name = "We become the rightful rulers of Morocco."
	command = { type = addcore which = 732 } 
	command = { type = addcore which = 806 } 
	command = { type = addcore which = 733 } 
	command = { type = capital which = 733 } 
	}
}

event = {
id = 85046
random = no
trigger = { 
	exists = FEZ 
}
country = MOR
name = "The Sa'di dynasty"
desc = "The Sa'di dynasty was founded in Sus by Muhammad al-Qa'im. The family took a strong position in support of a jihad against the Portuguese. This policy was ran counter to the Wattasid policy of appeasement and collaboration. Al-Qa'im began to unify southern Morocco and by 1530 controlled the southern half of Morocco."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1530 }
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1545 }
action_a = {
	name = "We shall destroy the Wattasids!"
	command = { type = addcore which = 732 } 
	command = { type = addcore which = 806 } 
	command = { type = addcore which = 733 } 
	command = { type = casusbelli which = FEZ value = 936 }
	command = { type = casusbelli which = POR value = 12 }
	command = { type = relation which = FEZ value = -200 } 
	command = { type = relation which = POR value = -100 } 
	}
}

event = {
	id = 85002
	random = no
	country = MOR
	name = "The Wattasids"
	desc = "The inability of the Wattasid dynasty led to southern Morocco gaining virtual autonomy during this period."
	style = 2
	action_a = {
		name = "They are so weak!"
		command = { type = breakvassal which = FEZ } 
		command = { type = stability value = 2 }
		command = { type = casusbelli which = FEZ value = 936 }
		command = { type = relation which = FEZ value = -200 } 
		command = { type = add_countryculture which = berber }
		command = { type = remove_countryculture which = arabic }  
		command = { type = trigger which = 85041 } 
	}
}

event = {
	id = 85041
	random = no
	country = FEZ
	name = "The Wattasids"
	desc = "The inability of the Wattasid dynasty led to southern Morocco gaining virtual autonomy during this period."
	style = 2
	action_a = {
		name = "And so we lose control"
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = MOR value = 1597 } 
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = MOR value = 804 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = MOR value = 1596 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = MOR value = 805 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = MOR value = 803 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = MOR value = 802 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = MOR value = 1595 }
		command = { type = relation which = MOR value = -100 } 
	}
}

event = {
	id = 85001
	random = no
	country = FEZ
	name = "The Wattasids"
	desc = "The inability of the Wattasid dynasty led to southern Morocco gaining virtual autonomy during this period."
	style = 2
	action_a = {
		name = "We accept the existence of southern Morocco"
		command = { type = breakvassal which = MOR } 
		command = { type = stability value = 2 }
		command = { type = casusbelli which = MOR value = 936 }
		command = { type = relation which = MOR value = -200 } 
	}
}

event = { 
	id = 45210 
	random = no 
	country = FEZ 
	name = "The infirmity of the Wattasid Dynasty" 
	desc = "The Wattasids were the ruling dynasty of Morocco from the middle of the 15th century to the middle of the 16th century. The Wattasids were an old vizier family of the Merenids and when they gained control of Morocco, it was in shambles. Morocco was in the midst of economic, demographic, domestic, and foreign problems. The inability of the Wattasid sovereigns, to deal with these issues, eventually led to the dynasty's demise." 
	style = 1 
	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1472 } 
	offset = 20000
	action_a = { 
		name = "The nation is spiraling out of our control!" 
		command = { type = diplomats value = -3 } 
		command = { type = missionaries value = -3 } 
		command = { type = inflation value = 10 } 
		command = { type = cash value = -100 } 
		command = { type = infra value = -250 } 
		} 
} [/color][/font]

Tada! Expect something similar to show the transition from the Sa'dis to Alawites.

I'll post the new monarch lists for Morocco and Fez plus the new revolter files asap.

garbon

 

[Garbon]

Score! My new setup + events worked great when testing. Morocco became Fez seamlessly and around 1504, Morocco revolted in the south from Fez. There was only one major issue, stemming from an error in West Africa.

For some reason, Songhai never expanded and got swallowed by Mossi. Likewise Benin was swallowed by Hausa. In any event the uber-Mossi then attacked the newly formed southern Morocco taking one of its provs. Fez (upper Morocco) then wiped southern Morocco down to one province. Historically, southern Morocco took over the northern portion of Morocco. I guess I will have to create an event giving Morocco an army after it breaks away from Fez. Also, a lot will have to be done in West Africa.

I've also completed a mini-event sequence simulating the strength of the Hafsids from 1435-1488 and then its decline. I'll post that soon, as the sequence works flawlessly.

garbon

 

[Garbon]

Here are the events chegitz guevara posted in the EEP Ottoman Empire quite a bit back. Since they concern North Africa I post them here for scrutiny. I think their quite good and should be included.

[Font=courier new][color=white]#The Ottoman incorporation of Al-Djazaïr#
event = {
	id = 50016
	trigger = {
		exists = ALD
		vassal = {country = TUR country = ALD}
		}
	}
	random = no 
	country = TUR 
	name = "The Ottoman incorporation of Al-Djazaïr" 
	desc = "In 1587 the institution of a regular Ottoman 
administration began. Governors with the title of pasha ruled for 
three-year terms. Turkish was the official language, and Arabs 
and Berbers were excluded from government posts."
	style = 1 

      date = (day = 1 month = January year = 1587}
      offset = 1000
	action_a ={ #Incorporate them!# 
		name = "Incorporate them!"
		command = { type = inherit which = ALD } 
		command = { type = addcore which = 734 } 
		command = { type = addcore which = 737 } 
		command = { type = addcore which = 738 } 
		command = { type = stability value = 2 } 
		command = { type = DIP which = 3 value = 36 } 
		} 
}


#This next event replaces current 3897#
#A new Dey# 
event = {
    id = 3897
    trigger = {
        owned = {
            province = 737
            data = -1
        }
        NOT = {
            exists = ALD
        }
    }
    random = no
    country = TUR
    name = "A new Dey"
    desc = "In 1710, the Dey of Algiers persuaded the sultan to 
recognize him and his successors as regent, replacing the pasha 
in that role. Although Algiers remained a part of the Ottoman 
Empire, the Sublime Porte, or Ottoman government, ceased to 
have effective influence there."
    style = 4

    date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1710 }
    offset = 1000

    action_a ={ # Grant limited autonomy#
        name = "ACTIONNAME3897A"
        command = { type = independence which = ALD }
        command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = -1 }
        command = { type = removecore which = 734 } 
        command = { type = removecore which = 737 } 
        command = { type = removecore which = 738 }

    }
    action_b ={ # Crush the rebels#
        name = "ACTIONNAME3897B"
        command = { type = revolt which = 734 }
        command = { type = revolt which = 735 }
        command = { type = revolt which = 736 }
        command = { type = revolt which = 737 }
        command = { type = revolt which = 738 }
        command = { type = revoltrisk which = 36 value = 4 }
        command = { type = stability value = -2 }
    }
}[/color][/font]

Now to hop back to the early 16th century

 

[Garbon]

Inspired by my reposting of chegitz guevara's events. I worked out a sequence concerning the Knight of St. John, Spain, Tripoli. I also created the event sequence for the Ottoman conquest of Tunisia in 1574. I'll do an initial test and then post.

garbon

 

[Garbon]

Reasoning/Thoughts for/about Tlemcen

Here's what I think about the whole Tlemcen/Algiers issue.

At first I thought that Tlemcen shouldn't be added and agreed with what James Fox said in the AGC thread that Algiers should be used to represent Tlemcen as well as the Algiers state under the Ottomans. However, upon further research I'm beginning to think differently.

Before I get ahead of myself, Tlemcen was the name of the nation in Algiers under the Zayyanid Dynasty. After the decline of the Hafsid dynasty, Algeria(modern-state) fell apart into a bunch of little kingdoms. Basically from 1490 to 1520ish and beyond. The Tlemcen kingdom survived and was vassalized by Spain in 1543. Its capital, Tlemcen, is located in the EU province of Orania.

When the Barbarossa's attacked Algeria, they setup their own state, in Al-Djazaïr, which eventually was Algiers under the Ottomans. At this time, Tlemcen existed along with Algiers.

Basically, I think that everything that is currently Algiers pre-1500's should be Tlemcen. Those Algiers's monarchs are actually the monarchs of Tlemcen. Around 1520ish then the Barbarossas would take over the eastern half of Tlemcen and found Algiers (not able to revolt till 1500's). Spain would then be directed to take Orania from Tlemcen, leaving it with Atlas. Tlemcen would then come to simulate the small kingdoms that still ruled free from Algiers and Spain. From 1708 to 1732, it would represent free Oran.

The benefit of the aforementioned plan is that it better represents the situation in Algeria. And unlike the nations I created in West Africa, or any of the West African nations for that matter, Tlemcen actually had a national flag.

garbon

 

[chegitz guevara]

Dang, Garbon, you've been busy.

 

[Garbon]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Dang, Garbon, you've been busy.

Perhaps overcompensation for the fact that I won't get anything more done for a week or so.

By the way, any thoughts on Tlemcen? That issue is impeding my progress.

 

[Garbon]

I went ahead and made an event sequence for the Barbarossas assuming that Tlemcen is added as a nation. It can easily be modified if Tlemcen isn't added. Also, I think Barbarossa should be a leader for Algiers not the Pirates but more on that later.

I won't be able to test to the weekend and have a lot to test, so I'll probably be quiet the rest of the week

 

[Garbon]

I got around to testing my North African events!

I replaced Algiers with Tlemcen at start and basically gave Tlemcen the Algiers's country definition.

All the new sequences worked, including the one for Spain to take over Tripoli. The only thing that needs adjusting is the sequence to form Algiers, because the revolt risk was too minor to for Algiers to revolt from Tlemcen. Also, I need to change the revolt file for Algiers, because when it revolted, Orania joined Algiers.

Other than those few issues, everything is great. Moving back south to West Africa.

 

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Are you going to submit this anytime soon? 'Cause, I won't be that much involved any longer.

 

[Garbon]

Actually, I can sumbit my modifications anytime. I just need to polish a few desc texts and I can send them, if you want.

 

[Garbon]

Sent large chunk of North Africa stuff to Crook!

Just need to wrap up a few last details...like monarchs.

Special thanks go out to Birger Jarl and Iostephanos for helping me out with the graphics. Also, thanks to chegitz guevara who, incidentally, inspired me to create a flurry of Ottoman related North African events.

Now once again I turn to tackle the beast...West Africa!

EDIT: All current North African info has been compiled and sent.

 

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Event 80203 is missing, but being triggered by 80202 (Ottoman). Also, the only event for Tripoli (85052) doesn't have dates.

Can you update this accordingly (and rather soon too).

Thanks

 

[Garbon]

Originally posted by Crook
Event 80203 is missing, but being triggered by 80202 (Ottoman). Also, the only event for Tripoli (85052) doesn't have dates.

Can you update this accordingly (and rather soon too).

Thanks

Sending 80203(TUN), sorry 'bout that. I was pretty sure that 85052 occurs when it is set free by the TUN event (85051). I can add a date if its needed though.

 

[unmerged(1302)]

Originally posted by Garbon


Sending 80203(TUN), sorry 'bout that. I was pretty sure that 85052 occurs when it is set free by the TUN event (85051). I can add a date if its needed though.

Hmm,

I haven't received the file eep_tun.txt then, since there is not a single TUN event. Can you send ithe file please? I got the graphics.

 

[Garbon]

I was just thinking about this Tunisia event I submitted...

[font= courier new][color=white]event = { 
	id = 85051
	random = no 
	country = TUN 
	name = "Death of Abu Amr Uthman" 
	desc = "Upon his death, Hafsid authority crumbled. The royal family grew to bickering and eventually fueding that damage the position of the Hafisd dynasty. Clearly, the golden age of the Hafsid dynasty was over. No longer could the sultan of Tunis exercise control over the Zayyanids and Tripoli." 
	style = 1 
	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1488 } 
	offset = 20
	action_a = { 
		name = "The Hafsid dynasty descends!"
		command = { type = diplomats value = -2 } 
		command = { type = infra value = -50 } 
		command = { type = breakvassal which = XHO }
		command = { type = independence which = TRI }
		command = { type = relation which = XHO value = -25 } 
		command = { type = relation which = MOR value = -50 } 
		command = { type = stability value = -2 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = XHO value = 738 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = XHO value = 735 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = XHO value = 736 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = XHO value = 737 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = MAM value = 741 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = MAM value = 742 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 85052 }
		} 
	action_b = { 
		name = "We shall never give up!"
		command = { type = breakvassal which = XHO }
		command = { type = relation which = XHO value = -100 } 
		command = { type = relation which = MOR value = -100 } 
		command = { type = stability value = -4 }
        	command = { type = revolt which = 738 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 738 }
        	command = { type = revolt which = 740 }        
		command = { type = revolt which = 740 }
		} 
} [/color][/font]

Its way too deterministic!

What kind of trigger can I have to get this ball rolling? Would it make sense for Tunisia to experience massive revolts in the provinces that are currently just seceded?

garbon

 

[Garbon]

Please forgive me for the following when 1.24 comes out:

Tlemcen and Tunisia should not have high relations or be in an alliance. They actually fought many times in the 15th century.

Tunisia shouldn't be "forced" to fall apart the way that it does.

Forgetting to setup Algiers after it forms.

And lastly, forgetting to fix the monarch lists for Morocco and Fez

Sorries

 

[Garbon]

Finally revised map on intial post!

Note that Morocco's capital is now in Fez. This is because Fez was the important city at this time.