EEP China

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This is a thread for China's EEP events.


To start it off, I despise the Manchu events regarding Emperor Congzhen's suicide. Congzhen's suicide should ONLY happen if rebels take control of Beijing during his reign, and even then I believe there should be a way let Congzhen escape because of the fact that Charles the Rash of Burgundy can live. In the 17th year of Congzhen's reign, Li Zicheng (the leader of the peasant's army) attacked and occupied Beijing. It was then that Emperor Chongzhen hung himself at Jingshan Mountain. The Emperor wouldn't of just hung himself out of the blue if rebels hadn't occupied the capital.

 

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China should have more knowledge of India, and the water routes to India.

This map shows Zheng He's voyage. This voyage wasn't purely expeditionary, it was diplomatic. The Chinese had knowledge of India, and basically most places that Zheng He had visited. At the very least China should have knowledge of a water route to India, and a few costal provinces of India.

 

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The event "The Emperor has been captured!", and "Zhengtong returns to the throne" should only happen if China is at war with the Wala Clan in Mongolia. Mongolia is in PTI so this cannot be represented. I am not sure what to do with this event. Perhaps China should get an event a few years prior to the "The Emperor has been captured!" event stating whether or not China should go to war with the Wala Clan.

#War the Wala Clan of Mongolia?"
event = {
id = XXXXXX
random = no
country = CHI
name = "Should we war the Mongols?"
desc = "In 14th year of his reign, Emperor Zhengtong led the military campaign against Wala Clan in Mongolia."
style = 1
date = { day = 22 month = november year = 1447 }
offset = 0
deathdate = { day = 23 month = november year = 1448 }

action_a ={
name = "Yes, we shall war the Mongols"
command = { type = stability value = 2 }
command = { type = infantry which = -1 value = 20000
command = { type = calvary which = -1 value = 5000

}
action_B ={
name = "Leave the Mongols be"
command = {
type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 48 value = 3 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = sleepevent value = 10001 }
}
}

 

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Emperor Zhengtong led several military expeditions, and should be added as a leader. One of his most notable expeditions resulted in his capture by the Mongols of the Wala Clan.

historicalleader = {
id = { type = 6 id = XXXXXX }
category = monarch
startdate = {
day = 31
month = january
year = 1435
}
deathdate = {
day = 21
month = november
year = 1449
}
name = "Zhengtong"
rank = 0
movement = 3
fire = 3
shock = 3
siege = 0
dormant = no
}

 

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http://www.time.com/time/asia/features/journey2001/timeline/timeline_main.html


Zheng He reached Mogadishu in 1418. China should have knowledge of Africa, Arabia, India, and Sumatra.

 

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knownprovinces = { 625 626 628 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 677 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 705 940 941 942 943 944 1018 1019 1020 1021 1081 1082 1083 1084 1085 1086 1087 1088 1145 1146 1147 1149 1150 1151 1152 1205 1207 1208 1347 1349 1350 1351 1352 1353 1356 1544 1545 1546 1553 1554 1555 1556 1557 1558 1559 1560 1561 1562 1563 1564 1565 1566 1567 1539 1540 1541 1542 1543 1547 1548 1549 1550 669 1551 1552 670 674 675 667 668 1592 1598 1599 1600 1601 1602 1603 1604 1605 1606 1607 1608 676 678 695 696 697 698 702 703 704 701 1206 1354 1355 1144 681 682 680 1358 679 1143 1080 1079 1078 556 671 672 673 1389 557 558 1074 1075 1073 1076 1077 1357 1141 1072 1140 1138 576 577 1071 1070 947 886 945 946 948 949 887 560 561 564 565 571 572 575 574 573 569 568 549 548 547 541 539 540 538 537 536 535 534 533 532 1063 1363 1069 1066 1065 1067 1068 504 505 503 502 1064 1135 1062 498 499 500 501 1060 1061 760 759 757 1134 1133 1359 1136 1059 506 507 508 509 497 496 495 }

Here is a revised version of China's known province list.

 

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Currently in EU2 China has a hillariously small navy. Zheng He's great Imperial Fleet is made up of three, count them THREE warships. Heck, even Zheng He's flagship alone could count as three European boats. Most sources state that Zheng He's armada was about 300 ships, and carried an army of 30,000 men. I know 300 ships is over-the-top and China wouldn't be unable to support that many without going bankrupt. The fact is that these ships were like floating villages able to support life independently from China. EU2 cannot represent this so I suggest the Chinese navy be about 50 warships, with 10 transports. Additionally a 30k army should be in the fleet at the start of the 1419 scenario.


On a side note Zheng He should also be a general, and his current naval stats should be maxed out to represent the enormous size of his flagship.

historicalleader = {
id = { type = 6 id = XXXXXX }
category = general
startdate = {
year = 1405
}
deathdate = {
year = 1436
}
name = "Zheng He"
rank = 1
movement = 4
fire = 3
shock = 3
siege = 1
dormant = no
}

historicalleader = {
id = { type = 6 id = 08830 }
category = explorer
startdate = {
year = 1405
}
deathdate = {
year = 1436
}
name = "Zheng He"
rank = 0
movement = 6
fire = 6
shock = 6
siege = 0
dormant = no
}

 

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Interesting but isn't China strong enough?

 

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#The Case of the Red Pills#
event = {
id = XXXXXX
random = no
country = CHI
name = "The Case of the Red Pills"
desc = "Ming Emperor Taichang was weak in his child hood. A short time after his enthronement, he began to build his own mausoleum. Several days later, he felt ill. An official named Li Kezhuo offered the Emperor some red pills. He died in a few minutes after taking the pills. This was called "The Case of the Red Pills" which shocked the whole nation at that time. "
style = 1
date = { day = 26 month = september year = 1620 }
offset = 0
deathdate = { day = 27 month = september year = 1620 }

action_a ={
name = "How awful!"
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
}
}

 

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China was very strong. The fact is that during the 1400s China was the strongest country in the world. Denmark and England's navies in 1419 are HUGE (England's is about 40 warships ships, Denmark's is about warships 30). China in 1419 had a navy that was many times larger than those two nations combined and the navy was more powerful.

 

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In 1436 China issued an imperial ban on the construction of oceangoing ships. How should this be represented in EU2? Perhaps if China issues this ban the policy sliders should move the land slider, and autocracy slider totally to the right in order to make building ships costly. Additionally is it possible to have "naval" desertions in events?

 

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Originally posted by Fate
Additionally is it possible to have "naval" desertions in events?

I'm afraid not.

 

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#The End of Chinese Navy#
event = {
id = XXXX
random = no
country = CHI
name = "The End of the Chinese Navy"
desc = "In 1436 China issued an imperial ban on the construction of oceangoing ships"
style = 3

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1436 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1437 }

action_a ={
name = "The Yellow River over the blue ocean."
command = { type stability value = 3}
command = { type = domestic which = LAND value = 10 }
command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = 10 }
}
action_b ={
name = "The blue ocean over the Yellow River"
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 12 value = 3 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
}
}


This event is similar to the "Result of Zheng He's voyage" but it's based on an acutal Imperial ban ordered by the Emperor. The revolts represent the discontent of the isolationists, and the increasing number of Mongol raids due to the weakening of the Chinese army, and strengthening of the navy.

 

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I'm afraid not.

Oh well, I'll request it for 1.06.

 

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#The Reign of Emperor Jiajing#
event = {
id = XXXX
random = no
country = CHI
name = "The Reign of Emperor Jiajing"
desc = "During Jiajing's reign, he oversaw a building boom. The eastern and the western side part of the Forbidden City were built during his reign. "
style = 3

date = { day = 20 month = april year = 1521 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 22 month = january year = 1567 }

action_a ={
name = "Superb!"
command = { type stability value = 1}
command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = 1 }
command = { type = gainmanufactory which = 649 value = luxury }
command = { type = population which = 649 value = 50000 }
command = { type = provincetax which 649 value = 3 }

}
}

 

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Emperor Zhengde thought that being an emperor was not fun enough, so he appointed himself as a general, and gave himself a new name - Zhu Shou. While a clan called Dada in Mongolia was invating the frontier, he led the army as a general. In the battle, he killed an enemy himself. He was very satisfied for his battle achievement, so he appointed himself as a Tai Shi¡± (name of a kind of high offical in ancient china).


historicalleader = {
id = { type = 6 id = XXXXXX }
category = monarch
startdate = {
day = 8
month = june
year = 1505
}
deathdate = {
day = 19
month = april
year = 1521
}
name = "Zhu Shou"
rank = 0
movement = 4
fire = 4
shock = 4
siege = 1
dormant = no
remark = "His true name is Emperor Zhengde"
}

 

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Originally posted by Fate
#The End of Chinese Navy#
event = {
id = XXXX
random = no
country = CHI
name = "The End of the Chinese Navy"
desc = "In 1436 China issued an imperial ban on the construction of oceangoing ships"
style = 3

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1436 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1437 }

action_a ={
name = "The Yellow River over the blue ocean."
command = { type stability value = 3}
command = { type = domestic which = LAND value = 10 }
command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = 10 }
}
action_b ={
name = "The blue ocean over the Yellow River"
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 12 value = 3 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
}
}


This event is similar to the "Result of Zheng He's voyage" but it's based on an acutal Imperial ban ordered by the Emperor. The revolts represent the discontent of the isolationists, and the increasing number of Mongol raids due to the weakening of the Chinese army, and strengthening of the navy.

This is a good event as the player would eventually have to disband the huge navy or suffer high deficit or inflation

 

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#Another expedition?#
event = {
id = XXXXX
random = no
country = CHI
name = "Another expedition?"
desc = "In 1477 another seafaring voyage was suggested to the Imperial court, but the vice president of the Ministry of War confiscated all of Zheng He's records in the archives, damning them as "deceitful exaggerations of bizarre things far removed from the testimony of people's eyes and ears."
style = 3

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1477 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1478 }

action_a ={
name = "Accept the Ministry of War's decision"
command = { type stability value = 2}
command = { type = treasury value = 100 }
}
action_b ={
name = "Let's send out more expeditions"
command = { type = explorer which = -1 value = 3 }
command = { type = explorer which = -1 value = 3 }
command = { type = explorer which = -1 value = 3 }
command = { type = treasury value = -500 }
command = { type stability value = -1 }
}
}

 

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Originally posted by Fate
action_b ={
name = "Let's send out more expeditions"
command = { type = explorer which = -1 value = 3 }
command = { type = explorer which = -1 value = 3 }
command = { type = explorer which = -1 value = 3 }
command = { type = treasury value = -500 }
command = { type stability value = -1 }
}

The value field, to my knowledge (and according to my references, also), doesn't do anything in the explorer command.

Aren't three explorers overkill? Especially random ones, which can sometimes live for decades? Might it perhaps be better to code up a "historical" explorer or two, with known deathdates? Or sleepleader them in choice A (so the explorers are spread out over a number of years)?

And if you use the

 tag around your events and leader/monarch tables and so on, it becomes much more readable.  In particular, your spacing is preserved.

 

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Okay, I'll create some historical explorers... well made up historical explorers . Although, Spain at times gets up to about 3 explorers at one time, so it wouldn't be that outrageous if a naval superpower like China had this many.