EEP Byzantium

[Havard]

Originally posted by Idiotboy


Yes, yes but how should i be altered if you have to have certain policies??

Oh, I see. I wasn't saying it should have DP triggers. My point is that if you have money and want to colonize the firat option is a no-brainer, if you don't have money you go for the second. If you are totally broke or specially if you are not colonizing you get a bucketload of money and free tech investments...

I guess you can say I'm not too fond of too good events (Specially unhistoric ones )

 

[Idiotboy]

Originally posted by Havard


Oh, I see. I wasn't saying it should have DP triggers. My point is that if you have money and want to colonize the firat option is a no-brainer, if you don't have money you go for the second. If you are totally broke or specially if you are not colonizing you get a bucketload of money and free tech investments...

I guess you can say I'm not too fond of too good events (Specially unhistoric ones )

Ah, well perhaps there should be a few negatives tied to it then. Anyway I´m thinking on a few rather nasty revolutionary events so there shouldn´t be any worries on to much good. In fact most events that me and driftwood has made carries some hefty penalties with them or are outright bad for ya.

 

[driftwood]

I'm kind of agnostic on this whole subject. Most of the Paradox events are heavily unbalanced, one way or the other. I mean, they're just no-brainers! As various people like Crook and Havard have made murmurs of discontent at my events, I moved towards making each choice contain some good and some bad, along with a status quo choice that hurts you in the long run.

That said, I'm not sure that the player needs much more guidance by the 17th century. Who isn't going to be expanding? So maybe it would be more interesting to write events that presuppose colonization. Maybe a revolt of the colonial governor in Isfahan or Goa. A religious dispute caused by a new movement in Orthodoxy spawned in Taiwan. Stuff like that.

I'm not saying, Dunkel and any others, that these events are bad and you shouldn't keep working on them. I'm just musing outloud (online?).

driftwood

 

[Idiotboy]

Originally posted by driftwood
I'm kind of agnostic on this whole subject. Most of the Paradox events are heavily unbalanced, one way or the other. I mean, they're just no-brainers! As various people like Crook and Havard have made murmurs of discontent at my events, I moved towards making each choice contain some good and some bad, along with a status quo choice that hurts you in the long run.

That said, I'm not sure that the player needs much more guidance by the 17th century. Who isn't going to be expanding? So maybe it would be more interesting to write events that presuppose colonization. Maybe a revolt of the colonial governor in Isfahan or Goa. A religious dispute caused by a new movement in Orthodoxy spawned in Taiwan. Stuff like that.

I'm not saying, Dunkel and any others, that these events are bad and you shouldn't keep working on them. I'm just musing outloud (online?).

driftwood

Yeah I have to agree. Many of the events you get with the game are so incredible one sided so compared to them we make the job better.

 

[unmerged(7837)]

Well, I'm certainly not trying to give the player an unfair advantage. Simply being a human player gives a big enough advantage over the AI.

When it came to this event, though, I didn't think I was giving any seriously unfair advantages. Much of what you get from the event, you would get anyway. Some of it, yeah, is nice. But there are other event for other nations that are pretty much win-win situations, aren't there? And most of the Byzantium events that have been scripted have all had bad with any good, right? So what's wrong with giving Byzantium one event that's a no-brainer?

The "precursor" event I mentioned, maybe it isn't necessary...but I don't think it was really giving the player anything they couldn't or wouldn't have on their own anyway.

Anyway, I'm, of course, willing to go back and tweak things...but, for the most part, I think it's a good event. Maybe making the last choice more of a "status quo" choice, so you don't get anything, but you don't lose anything either?

 

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Qiuck question. Are the new Byzantine events included in the EEP v 1.0?

 

[unmerged(7837)]

No, not the ones we're talking about now.

 

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Any chance of the set coming out in its own file?

 

[Idiotboy]

Originally posted by Crazy_Ivan80
Any chance of the set coming out in its own file?

I wouldn´t think so. To much fuss I think. Anyway v1.1 or whatever it´s gonna be called will see some major overhaul and this time the events that was broken for one reason or another will actually work.

 

[Crazy_Ivan80]

cool

Just bought the game you see. No more fiddling around with a rip!

 

[Idiotboy]

That reminds me, driftwood did you check up the triggers the weekend that passed??

 

[driftwood]

Uh ... which triggers are those that I was checking this weekend now?

driftwood

 

[Idiotboy]

Originally posted by driftwood
Uh ... which triggers are those that I was checking this weekend now?

driftwood

Sigh, you told us that you would check out your event triggers so that they would work properly.

 

[driftwood]

Oh, right, but then we got reports that they *did* work correctly. Erhm, no, I didn't do any other EU2 playing. I was otherwise occupied.

Joak was the one who said adding the deathdate caused the events to all fire. That was the only change.

driftwood

 

[Idiotboy]

Originally posted by driftwood
Oh, right, but then we got reports that they *did* work correctly. Erhm, no, I didn't do any other EU2 playing. I was otherwise occupied.

Joak was the one who said adding the deathdate caused the events to all fire. That was the only change.

driftwood

Ok then, but you added those dates I hope??

 

[driftwood]

Yeah. Don't worry, as I said, I'll dedicate an entire day to collating finished events and adding them in for the next deadline (whenver that is).

driftwood

 

[Idiotboy]

Originally posted by driftwood
Yeah. Don't worry, as I said, I'll dedicate an entire day to collating finished events and adding them in for the next deadline (whenver that is).

driftwood

Good question. Who´s in charge anyway?? Crook??

 

[driftwood]

I PMed Crook. Hopefully I'll hear soon.

If not, maybe HAVARD can shed some light on the situation.

driftwood

 

[unmerged(2900)]

Originally posted by driftwood

However, there was a series of events that someone (Idiotboy?) proposed quite a while ago that would allow for a true union of the churches, negotiated between equals. It was a very long series that required decisions on each of the outstanding issues, maintaining high relations with the major Catholic states despite decisions that they're unhappy with, etc. But I don't think those were coded.

driftwood

I do believe those events were my creation

Sadly, I have no event scripting experience, nor the time to learn, as I am in the midst of ending my junior year, complete with various squabbles and troubles. Though I am happy to help out and give advice if anyone would care to actually script those events

 

[unmerged(7398)]

If you write out the descriptions, dates, requirements, and effects of your events, I'm sure someone (such as myself) would be happy to write the actual script for you.