EEP Byzantium Code Only

[Dracleath]

One minor detail - zoe and her brother having such a high monarch/leader number causes crashes to the desktop sometimes when starting the game or at the victory point screen after a game. Adjusting these values just to the next availible monarch or leader number listed in the text file seems to fix it.

 

[driftwood]

Weird. I've found that if EU2 is at all unhappy, it will always crash either as the game is about to start, or while you're waiting 10 minutes for the OK button to appear on the points screen.

Does anyone know why it takes so long for the OK button to appear? Grr...

Does the game crash only when Zoe and her brother are in active use?

driftwood

 

[hilal]

Email-me a zip, please

Could you email me a zip with the events? I will be happy to do the beta-test, but the events are so scatered trough the thread...

 

[driftwood]

hilal - sure, just let me know your email address or email me

driftwood

 

[hilal]

Sorry, I forget. My email is: ensaio@terra.com.br ensaio@terra.com.br

 

[unmerged(521)]

Help! nice event people needed!

Hi all,

Driftwood,

I used some of your events for the Byzantines and the 'setup' event and 'the inheritance of the D. of Athens' event worked fine.

However, everytime i start the game i get two errors 'unknown LHS event' and something else which i have forgotten...

I tracked them by line number in the error to your 'Rise of the magnates' events.
I cannot see any problems... there seem to be the correct amount of Braces and such...

Any idea?

Ay one?

please!

lycortas@chartermi.net

thank you!!

Michael Johnson

 

[driftwood]

Unknown LHS event? Haven't heard that one before. It happens every time you start the game, or when the Rise of the Magnates events trigger?

driftwood

 

[unmerged(1302)]

means - the brace is missing somewhere (can be way before)

 

[driftwood]

Thanks. Sounds like a copy and paste mistake.

driftwood

 

[Dracleath]

I didn't see that anyone had done this yet, so here's an event for a capital move to Rome option if the Byzantines manage to capture it. Also included is a fate of the papacy event for if the empire is still orthodox.


#The New Empire# #Capital moved#
event = {
id = 18001
trigger = {
owned = {
province = 399
data = -1
}
NOT = {
exists = PAP
}
}
random = no
country = BYZ
name = "The New Empire"
desc = "When the Roman Empire first split, Rome was under siege from Germanic barbarians, and the Emporers knew it was due to fall. Justinian, however, managed to reconquer Rome for a brief period, before losing it again. Now, a resurgent Roman Empire has managed to conquer Rome once again. This brings on a difficult decision. Will the empire move it's center back to Rome, and declare the Western Empire reborn, or will the empire repeat Justinian's choice and keep the capital in Constantinople, which would likely be the safer choice but would risk the loss of Rome once again?"
style = 1

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1819 }

action_a ={ #Rome is new capital#
name = "Move the capital and declare the old empire reborn."
command = { type = capital which = 399 }
command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 2 }
command = { type = stability value = -4 }
command = { type = add_countryculture which = italian }
command = { type = relation which = VEN value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = CAS value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = ARG value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = NAP value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = KNI value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = MOS value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = NVG value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = -100 }
command = { type = addcore which = 399 }
}

action_b ={ #Let us keep the Old one instead#
name = "Keep the capital in Constantinople and focus on the East"
command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = -3 }
command = { type = stability value = 3 }
command = { type = relation which = MOS value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = NVG value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = 100 }
}
}


#Fate of the Papacy#
event = {
id = 18002
trigger = {
owned = {
province = 399
data = -1
}
NOT = {
exists = PAP
religion = catholic
}
}
random = no
country = BYZ
name = "Fate of the Papacy"
desc = "With the Roman Empire now reunited, a decision must be made about the fate of the Papacy. One option would to be to allow the Vatican to remain an independent entity. This would likely be very popular among the Catholics. Another option would be to keep the Papacy but arrange for a new Pope to be elected whose loyalty was more certain. Finally, one option might be to accept the Pope as the rightful head of the Church, effectively making the Empire a Catholic one. Such a move would undoubtably alienate the Greeks and Russians, who would likely refuse to recognize a church lead from Rome."
style = 1

date = { day = 1 month = april year = 1419 }
offset = 150
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1819}

action_a ={
name = "Allow the current Pope to remain in power as an independant entity"
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = relation which = VEN value = 200 }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 200 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = 200 }
command = { type = relation which = CAS value = 200 }
command = { type = relation which = ARG value = 200 }
command = { type = relation which = NAP value = 200 }
command = { type = relation which = KNI value = 200 }
command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = 1 }
}

action_b ={
name = "Allow the Papacy to exist, but elect a new Pope"
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = VEN value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = CAS value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = ARG value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = NAP value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = KNI value = 50 }
command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 1 }
}

action_c ={
name = "Declare the Pope to be the official head of religion of the empire"
command = { type = religion which = catholic }
command = { type = stability value = -3 }
command = { type = relation which = MOS value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = NVG value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = RYA value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = SUZ value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = SER value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = BOS value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = TRE value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = TVE value = -100 }
}
}

 

[Galleblære]

Why can't you choose to abolish the papal states and choose orthodox as the supreme religion?

This could trigger a sleper event which causes many countries to switch to ortodox after x years for example. Never liked the pope anyway, the mafisto he is!

 

[Idiotboy]

Originally posted by Galleblære
Why can't you choose to abolish the papal states and choose orthodox as the supreme religion?

This could trigger a sleper event which causes many countries to switch to ortodox after x years for example. Never liked the pope anyway, the mafisto he is!

Not a bad idea. A d option would be cool. However those events looks very much like the ottomans events when they capture Constantinople.

 

[driftwood]

Why would abolishing the Papal States do anything besides provoke massive crusades against Byzantium? Remember, the situation is not at all like the one where the Turks took Constantinople. At that point, there were no major Orthodox nations left, just a few struggling for survivial (e.g., Serbia or Wallachia) and a few just emerging (e.g., Muscovy or Novgorod).

If Byzantium somehow annexed the Papal States, there would be massively powerful Catholic states present in Spain, France, Austria, etc. I know EU2 can't simulate massive alliances/crusades very well, since the AI gets tired of war very quickly, but we should design events as if the threat of a Grand Alliance were real.

So I don't think Catholic nations would switch to Orthodox if Catholicism were banished from Rome. I think they would just declare war on Byzantium.

driftwood

 

[Shadowstrike]

As I see it, the most probable action would be to make the Pope the "Patriarch of Rome" once again, while lowering it below hte Patriarch of Constantinople. That would cause major concerns in Catholic nations. Alienating the greeks is antoher option. A third path would be to make the two equal, which would give immediate negative effects, but provide bonuses in the long-term (like 150 years down the road)

 

[PMLF]

Please, could you email me too a zip with these events?

My email is: pmlf@bol.com.br

 

[driftwood]

They should be available in the first beta EEP release Any Day Now(tm).

driftwood

 

[unmerged(1302)]

driftwood,

breakvassal command only works if the vassal cancels the vassalage, not the suzerain. That requires some minor tweaking, but basically it requires Byzantium to cancel the treaty, not the Turks.

I'll see what I can do.

 

[driftwood]

Yeah, I couldn't tell which way it was working, so right now I have both the Turks and the Byzantines getting events that cancel it.

Fool Me Once part III (event 16126 in eep_driftwood_major_byz.txt) breaks the vassalage from the Byzantine side, and the first command in Fool Me Once (event 16113 for the Turks) is the one that can be commented out.

driftwood

 

[John Poole]

I was playing around with some events for the late Paleologi and wrote the following events but so far they seem to have errors that keep the game from working so maybe you guys can help me spot my mistakes and/or tell me if these events should be changed or are highly unlikely. Also I think an event for if the Byzantines ever control the Venetia province should be in order, for the Byzantines surely would have repatriated the plunder from 1204 particularly if the Byzantines are still Orthodox.


Event = {
Id = 3300
Trigger = {
Control = {province = 357 data = -1}
Owned = {province = 357 data = -1}
}

Country = Byz
Name = “The Brothers Palaeologi”
Desc = “In 1453, following the death of Konstantinos XI, Demetrios Palaeologus is next in line to be Basileos of the Romans. The Byzantine nobility is very nervous about this state of affairs. Demetios is a well-known schemer and generally seen as corrupt and petty. His own brothers John (Emperor Ioannes VIII), Constantine (Emperor Konstantinos XI), and Thomas (now Despot of Morea) deeply mistrusted him and their mother Helena (widow of Manuel II) had been forced to take action to prevent Demetrios from staging a coup to prevent the ascension of Constantine a few years before. With Constantinople still holding on the nobles are tempted to take action to put Demetrios’ brother Thomas, generally seen as a just and intelligent man and unlike Demetrios had a male heir, on the throne ahead of his controversial older brother. However doing something so drastic as overthrowing a legal monarch would cause who knows what internal and external problems. Perhaps Demetrios could be made to make Thomas his co-emperor so Thomas could keep him in line. In the end perhaps its best just to let it be and hope Demetrios behaves himself.”
Style = 1
Date = {day = 29 month = may year = 1453}

Action_a = { # Let it be
Name = “Demetrios may be a bad man but he is our legal sovereign!”
Command = {type = stability which = -1}
Command = {type = inflation value = 10}
Command = {type = domestic which = aristocracy value = -2}
Command = {type = domestic which = centralization value = 2}
}

Action_b = {# Deal with Demetrios
Name = “We need to keep Demetrios in line! Make him make Thomas his Co-Emperor!”
Command = {type = stability which = 1}
Command = {type = domestic which = aristocracy value = 2}
Command = {type = domestic which = centralization value = -2}
Command = {type = sleepmonarch which = 04683}
Command = {type = wakemonarch which = 32009}
Command = {type = trigger which = 3301}
}

Action_c = {# Oust Demetrios
Name = “Force Demetrios to abdicate! This is a critical time in our history no time for weak leaders!”
Command = {type = stability which = -5}
Command = {type = revoltrisk which = 6}
Command = {type = revolt which = 357}
Command = {type = domestic which = aristocracy value = 4}
Command = {type = domestic which centralization value = -4}
Command = {type = sleepmonarch which = 04683}
Command = {type = wakemonarch which = 32010}
Command = {type = trigger which = 3301}
}
}

Event = {
Id = 3301
Country = Byz
Name = “The death of Thomas Palaeologus”
Desc = “In 1465 Thomas Palaeologus dies leaving his older brother Demetrios as the last of Manuel II’s surviving children. Nobles who still cant stomach the idea of Demetrios being sole ruler contemplate forcing Demetrios to back down again making Thomas’ elder son Andreas Basileos. Unfortunately Andreas is even more disliked than Demetrios and the prestige of being the eldest living male Palaeologus makes Demetrios’ eventual victory assured. ”
Style = 1
Trigger = { event 3300 }
Date = { day = 1 month = January year = 1465 }

Action a = { # Demetrios’ triumph
Name = “Hail Demetrios the Basileos of the Romans!”
Command = {type = stability which = -1}
Command = {type = inflation value = 10}
Command = {type = domestic which = aristocracy value = -2}
Command = {type = domestic which = centralization value = 2}
}
}

Event = {
Id = 3303
Country = Byz
Name = “The Marriage of Zoe-Sophia”
Desc = “In 1471 Andreas I sends his younger sister Zoe-Sophia Palaeologina to be wed to Muscovite Duke Ivan III. This marriage lent legitimacy to Moscow as the new capitol of Russia and in the case of Byzantium surviving gives that Empire a powerful new ally as it attempts to survive and return to power.”
Style = 1
Trigger= {
Exists = BYZ
Exists = MOS
NOT = { war = { country = MOS country = BYZ } }
}
Date = {day = 1 month = January year = 1471}


Action a = {# Ok
Name = “Congratulations to the happy couple!”
Command = {type = stability which = 3}
Command = {type = relation which = MOS value = 200}
Command = {type = dynastic which = MOS}
Command = {type = treasury which = -50}
Command = {type = trigger which = 3445}
}
}

Event = {
Id = 3445
Country = MOS
Name = “The Roman Marriage”
Desc = “In 1471 Ivan III weds Zoe-Sophia Palaeologina sister of the Roman (Byzantine) Emperor Andreas I. This will give us much prestige and legitimize our claim as the true rulers of Russia!”
Style = 1

Action a = {# Ok
Name = “Congratulations to the happy couple!”
Command = {type = stability which = 3}
Command = {type = treasury which = 50}
}
}

<with the following additions to the Monarch list>

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 32009
name = "The Brothers Paleologi
startdate = {
day = 29
month = may
year = 1453
}
deathdate = {
year = 1465
}
DIP = 5
ADM = 6
MIL = 5
dormant = no
remark = "Thomas and Demetrios ruling together."

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 32010
name = "Thomas
startdate = {
day = 29
month = may
year = 1453
}
deathdate = {
year = 1465
}
DIP = 7
ADM = 7
MIL = 7
dormant = no
remark = "Youngest of Manuel II's children and the only one to produce a living male heir."

 

[driftwood]

Well, those event ids are within the reserved Paradox space. There are already events that have those id numbers. Add a zero to the end, and you should be fine.

In general, I'm not sure about all the consequences of your event choices. For instance, keeping Demetrios would probably increase stability (no changing of monarchs), but if anything would decrease centralization (that slacker isn't going to be able to keep hold of power).

Aristocracy is a good slider to play with, since the nobles will have a preferred candidate who you either accept or ignore. Stability, likewise, with any change causing a hit.

Instead of centralization, I would suggest maybe quality or serfdom. An inept, autocratic leader would mean -1 quality, +1 serfdom, perhaps. I would also generally limit DP slider movements to 1 or 2 (for major changes), since you are only choosing a monarch, not reorganizing society.

Also, the Byzantines might not have Thrace (prov. 357) anymore in 1453. They probably won't. It might make more sense to just remove province triggers, so change the province concerned to 360 (Morea).

I hope these criticisms don't sound negative - they're not! These look like good events. Do you know if your new monarchs conflict with the monarch list of David Comnenus?

driftwood