Originally posted by Galleblære
But come on you guys, think about it!
Some of you want "higland and lowland scotts". Nothing wrong with that
Actually, there is a
great deal wrong with that. "Highland Scots" didn't exist as a distinct culture until the 1700s. Before Butcher Cumberland's
Politik der verbrannten Erde after the '45, "Highland Scots" was essentially Irish culture. Before the Civil War, "Irish" was often used to refer not only to the Gaels of Ireland but to the Gaels of Scotland. This, of course, makes a great deal of sense, given that Gaelic Scotland was a colony of Ireland, established after the Roman evacuation. Until the O'Niell was crushed, commerce and travel between "Highland" Scotland and Ireland was routine--moreso than between "Highland" Scotland and the Sassenachs in the "Lowlands"
James IV may have suppressed the Lordship of the Isles, but it wasn't until a century later that anything approaching a "Scottish" identity began to emerge as something distinct from an "Irish" identity.
Of course, the game's approach to Celtic cultures is a daft mess, in any case. Britanny is not, was not, and never has been Gaelic. Wales is not, was not, and never has been Gaelic. Brittany and Wales are BRYTHONIC in language and culture. The only Gaelic lands that survived as Gaelic into the EU period were Ireland, western and Northern Scotland, and Man. Man is too small for EU's scale, of course.
If one is going to do a culture patchwork for the British Isles, ca 1419, then all of Ireland (including the Pale--what EU erroneously calls "Meath"--Meath is larger than the Pale) would be "Gaelic", as would "The Highlands", "The Grampians", and "Strathclyde". "Lothian" would be of the same culture as "Northumberland". A kingdom of Scotland in 1419 would not have Gaelic as a culture. Events in the 15th century could add that culture. Events in the 16th century could change the culture of "Strathclyde" to the same as had by "Lothian".
with "scandinavian" culture. IMO, Norwegian, Swedish and Danish culture is much more different than your basic higland/lowland scotts.
Your opinion is in great error. The difference between the two Scottish culture was far greater than those among the three Scandinavian cultures, and during EUs period, the difference was greater and greater further back in history one went (the exact opposite of Scandinavia's history). Children were still punished for daring to speak Gaelic in schools up to the early 20th century!
You are comparing modern Scandinavia (which started as a unitary culture and state and grew apart over centuries) to modern Scotland (which started as two essentially independent states and cultures and grew together). The EU period was the time when the differences between the two Scotlands flared up in starkest contrast.
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