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WarDog

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I dislike the programmed death of commanders.

The reason I play HOI is the "what-if-factor". Taking control of for eks. GER, should not mean you MUST be an idiot as AH...

It's a bit hard to change history when it gets too preprogrammed.

Commanders should be killed only by accidents (0,5% chance) or if encirkeled.
 

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It's a bit silly that the Wehrmacht should loose some of it's leaders that where condemned at Nurenberg even if in the Grand-campaign Germany rules supreme in 1946 ... same is of course true for all the other nations as well ... suicides and "encouraged" suicides as well as removal due to incompetence or insubordination are the result of circumstances ... if those circumstances aren't met then history should take a different turn ... would Yamamoto have died if the US and Japan had not been at war ? Highly debatable ...

so I would've supported the random thingie ... but seing as we got what we got I'll manage

the popping-up idea is great IMO, the death-date not so much ...
 

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Yeah, The Grand Campaign needs to be more open in that respect. In early versions of HoI1 I hated how If I convinced all of Eastern Europe in the Axis in like a pre-1939 open war, Some of them via events would leave the Axis and join the Allies... Like Poland. There is still somthing that bugs me in HoI1, that Com China has no say near the begining of the game whether they make peace with Nat. China, Nat China forces the peace on them.
 

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I agree with Wardog, and maybe a little suicide chance should go along with that. LIke, if the allies are just utterly kicking Germany's ass in Europe and Germany doesnt have a back-up army to ambush em'.
 

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So, anyone working on events that kills off leaders? Say if dissent in Germany gets too high, the kill Hitler event fires. If the plot fails, Rommel dies. Might it be possible to create a mod that allows for the death of enciricled leards or somesuch? Please say yes.
 

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Dalwin said:
I understand that there are many who strongly dislike the idea of random leader deaths as opposed to scheduled ones.

The main reason that I prefer random ones is that this takes away the players advantage of foreknowledge. Knowing that a given leader is scheduled to die in a given year might encourage you not to use him. I can understand arguments for scheduling some of the disease deaths and so on but even in those cases it is not like taht side knew in advance that the leader in question was going to die.

I think a completely random system would be much more realistic.

Yes it would stink if Rommel died in a car crash in 1938, but this sort of random stroke of bad luck is really what we are talking about if you look at things from the perspective of those who were there at the time.
you have a point there. Id prefer random rather than just offing people at specific times.

Though it would really suck to lose Rommel...
 

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Permanganate said:
If there had been no Bomb Plot, or if it had succeeded, ...

Thats a point. It would look a little silly if there was still an event for the bomb plot, and you got it, and Hitler died, and then Rommel commited suicide anyway.