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GhengisKhan said:
I dont agree with adding the death date to suicides at all. Diseases and accidents are ok but suicides were usually caused because of great losses by the general. I'll definaltely remove Rommel and several other generals death dates.
I did not say I liked it either, sorry if I gave that impression.

I will just do the best I can while a good leader still lives :)

EDIT: I believe that whatever you do; leave it as is, turn it off completely, or make it completely randomized, someone will not be satisfied ;)
 

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GrimReaper said:
EDIT: I believe that whatever you do; leave it as is, turn it off completely, or make it completely randomized, someone will not be satisfied ;)

Agreed wholeheartedly.

I just cant stomach losing Rommel and a couple of the others. Hes like my first born son, i'd get all teary eyed :D
 

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GhengisKhan said:
Agreed wholeheartedly.

I just cant stomach losing Rommel and a couple of the others. Hes like my first born son, i'd get all teary eyed :D
Right, therefore I think it is better to be attached to someone who stays until 1960, like von Manstein :D

*But it will still hurt to lose good ol' Desert Fox*
 

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The initial idea was to more or less make a player use even generals he won't use normally... it's not like you don't have enough of them as Germany :)

If you don't like it, mod it :p
 

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And another question: do you get a message when you get new guys/research facilities/ministers etc. ?
 

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Perhaps i doesent fits in here but..

Lothar Rendulic is in HoI's Austrias officer pool.

But he was leading german troops in northern finland and Norway 1944.

Is he included on the german side this time?
 

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well, he probably was from austria, so when the anshluss comes around he'll be anshlussed with the rest of them... I think, I still haven't the game :(

What happens if I'm researching something with a research team that dissapears? Do I get a 'sucks to be you' message?
 

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Van der Gent said:
Perhaps i doesent fits in here but..

Lothar Rendulic is in HoI's Austrias officer pool.

But he was leading german troops in northern finland and Norway 1944.

Is he included on the german side this time?

Eeeeh yes... He was in the German file for HOI I as well... Skill 3 General (panzer leader) ;)

So yup he's also in HOI II for Austria and Germany :)
 

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Van der Gent said:
Perhaps i doesent fits in here but..

Lothar Rendulic is in HoI's Austrias officer pool.

But he was leading german troops in northern finland and Norway 1944.

Is he included on the german side this time?
So it appears, straight from the \db\leaders\german.csv file:
Rendulic;568;GER;1939;1941;1944;1990;2;8;128;3;0;5;0;L568;1939;1960;x
 

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Usually_Insane said:
well, he probably was from austria, so when the anshluss comes around he'll be anshlussed with the rest of them... I think, I still haven't the game :(

What happens if I'm researching something with a research team that dissapears? Do I get a 'sucks to be you' message?

The team disappears after your research project is completed.
 

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thanks :D

but won't that look a bit odd, if it's a person who died, but he's still continuing research?

probably his ghost :rofl:
 

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Vulture said:
Eeeeh yes... He was in the German file for HOI I as well... Skill 3 General (panzer leader) ;)

So yup he's also in HOI II for Austria and Germany :)

He looks ALOT younger in Austrian officer pool...

really sure its the same?
 

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I know for sure i wil be editing out the random death dates, at least in the grand campaign, and not the battle scenarios if i can manage it. History changes so much under my command i cant see why rommel would die in 1944 if theres no more soviet union...
 

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I know for sure i wil be editing out the random death dates, at least in the grand campaign, and not the battle scenarios if i can manage it. History changes so much under my command i cant see why rommel would die in 1944 if theres no more soviet union...

Quite true. If there had been no Bomb Plot, or if it had succeeded, Rommel would never have been forced to commit suicide by Hitler...but he dies anyway. Eh? This is ridiculous. Leaders should die in encirclements, or have a tiny chance of dying in action (not too much, leaders commanding 15,000-180,000 troops tend to hang back from the front lines a little) but it's ridiculous to have them die according to a history that never happened. A better implementation of deathdate would be to not include them in scenarios that start after their death year; it's historical, it makes perfect sense and the rank years already work that way.
 

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wolf52 said:
I know for sure i wil be editing out the random death dates, at least in the grand campaign, and not the battle scenarios if i can manage it. History changes so much under my command i cant see why rommel would die in 1944 if theres no more soviet union...

I did that quite some time ago :p
 

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Van der Gent said:
He looks ALOT younger in Austrian officer pool...

really sure its the same?

Trust me, I'm sure ;)

We tried to find pics in their own nation's uniform for all... So Rendulic in the Austrian file looks a bit younger BUT is in an Austrian uniform. In the German file he wears the Heer uniform.
 

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I understand that there are many who strongly dislike the idea of random leader deaths as opposed to scheduled ones.

The main reason that I prefer random ones is that this takes away the players advantage of foreknowledge. Knowing that a given leader is scheduled to die in a given year might encourage you not to use him. I can understand arguments for scheduling some of the disease deaths and so on but even in those cases it is not like taht side knew in advance that the leader in question was going to die.

I think a completely random system would be much more realistic.

Yes it would stink if Rommel died in a car crash in 1938, but this sort of random stroke of bad luck is really what we are talking about if you look at things from the perspective of those who were there at the time.