Editing Holy Roman Empire nations?

[TommyIlRomano]

It's possible in the April 21st beta right? Well... How do you do it?

 

[DSYoungEsq]

Modify Province.csv. Use either a text editor, though this will drive you slowly nuts because the columns won't line up, or use Excel, either changing your Windows preferences to use ';' as the delimiter, or changing the delimiter within Excel, and remembering to save in .csv format. There is now a column for all provinces that, if the number 1 is there, puts the province inside the HRE.

You can find the answer to this, and most other modding questions, in the Modifications and Scenarios forum.

 

[Basileios I]

It's possible in the April 21st beta right? Well... How do you do it?

Is it? .... Cool!

I never heard about it!

 

[TommyIlRomano]

Modify Province.csv. Use either a text editor, though this will drive you slowly nuts because the columns won't line up, or use Excel, either changing your Windows preferences to use ';' as the delimiter, or changing the delimiter within Excel, and remembering to save in .csv format. There is now a column for all provinces that, if the number 1 is there, puts the province inside the HRE.

You can find the answer to this, and most other modding questions, in the Modifications and Scenarios forum.

Cool, thanks I had an idea but I didnt wanna screw my game up.

 

[unmerged(1385)]

Modify Province.csv. Use either a text editor, though this will drive you slowly nuts because the columns won't line up, or use Excel, either changing your Windows preferences to use ';' as the delimiter, or changing the delimiter within Excel, and remembering to save in .csv format. There is now a column for all provinces that, if the number 1 is there, puts the province inside the HRE.

You can find the answer to this, and most other modding questions, in the Modifications and Scenarios forum.

This modification change the province for the Holy Roman Empire but not the countries.

To made a country elector of HRE, you must change the last column in country.csv. The number give the number of vote for the country.

 

[Basileios I]

This modification change the province for the Holy Roman Empire but not the countries.

To made a country elector of HRE, you must change the last column in country.csv. The number give the number of vote for the country.

This is only possible in the April 21st beta, not in regular 1.08, right?
And what happens if you remove all HRE provinces? Who will be emperor? As far as I know, the country with the best relations to the "HRE-insiders" get's the title of Emperor, am I right?

Will the title stay with the country that get's it at the scenario start?

 

[kurtbrian]

*moved*

this belongs in here

 

[unmerged(1385)]

This is only possible in the April 21st beta, not in regular 1.08, right?

For the provinces : only the April 21st beta
For the countries : 1.08 and all the betas patchs

And what happens if you remove all HRE provinces? Who will be emperor? As far as I know, the country with the best relations to the "HRE-insiders" get's the title of Emperor, am I right?

Will the title stay with the country that get's it at the scenario start?

I have no idea...

 

[Ayeshteni]

And what happens if you remove all HRE provinces? Who will be emperor? As far as I know, the country with the best relations to the "HRE-insiders" get's the title of Emperor, am I right?

Will the title stay with the country that get's it at the scenario start?

If I remember correctly (and I could be wrong), in the patches before when Austria got a +50 bonus it would be HAB who became Emperor (by having the bonus to themselves).

Now, I am not to sure. I know someone will though. IIRC in the IFU there are no 'electors' at the start but when the BYZ emperor dies the title goes to Charlemagne (HAB tag) - but this was the beta before 21 april.

yours
A

 

[Basileios I]

If I remember correctly (and I could be wrong), in the patches before when Austria got a +50 bonus it would be HAB who became Emperor (by having the bonus to themselves).

Now, I am not to sure. I know someone will though. IIRC in the IFU there are no 'electors' at the start but when the BYZ emperor dies the title goes to Charlemagne (HAB tag) - but this was the beta before 21 april.

yours
A

I played your AJFIFU. The mod is good, but:

There is a HRE (you still see the red boarders).
Why don't you remove the HRE? It's somehow annoying to have a HRE where none should be .

And can you script events which add regions to the HRE during the game?
I think that would also be interesting for your mod, wouldn't it?

 

[jdrou]

And can you script events which add regions to the HRE during the game?
I think that would also be interesting for your mod, wouldn't it?

Unfortunately can't be done. The change to province.csv did not come with any new event commands to make changes in-game. The best you could do would be to have events tell you to save and exit the game and modify province.csv before resuming.

 

[Basileios I]

There is also a "HEI" Nation tag, standing for the Holy Roman Empire. Does this tag also have an "Emperor Bonus"?

 

[Ayeshteni]

I played your AJFIFU. The mod is good, but:

There is a HRE (you still see the red boarders).
Why don't you remove the HRE? It's somehow annoying to have a HRE where none should be .

And can you script events which add regions to the HRE during the game?
I think that would also be interesting for your mod, wouldn't it?

Thanks.
The reason it wasnt removed is because the ability to remove it (by altering provice.csv data) was introduced in the latest patch (21 april).

AJFIFU hasnt been updated to the new patch. If I do update (if), then I would move the border to cover Francia.

EDIT: as to the HEI tag, I am not sure. As I mentioned earlier the HAB tag no longer has the bonus. Daywalker on his site says that HEI is a 'special' tag, but I dont know if that relates to the HRE bonus or is used in some other manner.

I personally dont think any tag now has a bonus in regards to the HRE however.

As Jdrou states there is no way to 'add' HRE regions by event.

yours
Ayeshteni

 

[Basileios I]

If I do update (if)

Please update

The mod is already good but I think it need's some fixing and lots of events!

Has work on the AJFIFU halted?

Let's hope it won't end like the IFU!

 

[Basileios I]

There actually is an event that alters the HRE. It's one of the big ones (Council of Trent or sth.) and it removes the HRE in Italy.
Maybe some can re-write that event so HRE provinces get added/removed elswhere.
Or is it somehow hardcoded?

Or am I totally wrong and there isn't even an event changing the HRE?? :wacko:

 

[jdrou]

Before it was made moddable there were things that changed provinces in HRE; France gaining ownership and maybe what you're thinking of in Italy too. The price for the new mod ability is that those changes don't happen any more.

 

[unmerged(42906)]

The Low Countries are also removed from the HRE if the Netherlands form.

 

[jdrou]

The Low Countries are also removed from the HRE if the Netherlands form.

They were, but are they in the Apr 21 beta?

 

[Basileios I]

They were, but are they in the Apr 21 beta?

They should be ... wouldn't be historical if they weren't removed, wouldn't it?

 

[jdrou]

They should be ... wouldn't be historical if they weren't removed, wouldn't it?

The same is true of the reduction if the French take a province and that change was definitely removed so I expect that ALL in-game changes to HRE boundaries have been removed. It's the price we pay for making it moddable. (And it needs to be moddable for the future user-made maps.)