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Sorry, I don't have enough time to listen to fascist babble today.

-Amedee Dupointe

So to a socialist the truth is babble. I'm so very glad you are leading our nation.

- Veldist Deputy
 

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Emergency Martial Law: Aye
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I change my vote for Emergency Martial Law from No to Yes
 

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The continuation of martial law... the proposal to regulate and seize arms... and they have the audacity to call us the tyrants; the socialists are nothing more than hypocritical Frenchists who at every point steal the rights of Belgians for the sake of their avaricious disloyalty to Belgium and the State; I have no confidence in this government to serve in the interests of the Belgian people, and I've no doubt the oppressed citizens of our great and holy Fatherland feel the same.

Give Pilon a Trial!

~ Pilonist Deputy


Emergency Martial Law: Nay
Cognatic Succession Amendment Incorporation: Abstain

[BFN]
 
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Cognatic Succession Amendment Incorporation: Aye

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--a random BSU deputy responds to the Pilonist:

Yes, give Pilon a trial and then stand him up against a wall and enforce the only possible verdict with bullets!!
 

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So you would have a show trial, decision made beforehand amongst the Savarinist and Leeuwist forces that dominate this government and oppress the people; frankly, I'm not surprised.
 

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Emergency Martial Law: Nay
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[BNF]

- Veldist Deputy
 

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Emergency Martial Law: Abstain

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As I have said, to modernize the monarchy is to perpetuate it. Monarchism is an illegal and reactionary ideology that works tirelessly to keep the Belgian people oppressed. Socialists, do not try to appease one or another group by making the monarchy less rough around the edges! No! Destroy it outright! Then, we won't even have to bother about who can ascend to the false throne when and where and how.


I would also discourage Pastor Gerrard van Whatever from his proposal. Quite frankly, sir, this democratic softening of the Socialist cause will derail our purpose, just like your shamanistic Christian lies. Only through a vanguard party can we succeed.
Beware the fury of the proletariat, lest you associate yourself with counterrevolutionary moderates.

((Edited for party: BSU))


~Dorian Alain-Marie de Cambille, the Belgian Bolshevik


"We should never have formed a coalition with capitalists! Hein! A betrayal of socialism!"
 
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We should give Pilon a trial to publicly demonstrate how ridiculous his views are

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As I have said, to modernize the monarchy is to perpetuate it. Monarchism is an illegal and reactionary ideology that works tirelessly to keep the Belgian people oppressed. Socialists, do not try to appease one or another group by making the monarchy less rough around the edges! No! Destroy it outright! Then, we won't even have to bother about who can ascend to the false throne when and where and how.


I would also discourage Pastor Gerrard van Whatever from his proposal. Quite frankly, sir, this democratic softening of the Socialist cause will derail our purpose, just like your shamanistic Christian lies. Only through a vanguard party can we succeed.
Beware the fury of the proletariat, lest you associate yourself with counterrevolutionary moderates.


~Dorian Alain-Marie de Cambille, the Belgian Bolshevik


"We should never have formed a coalition with capitalists! Hein! A betrayal of socialism!"

I understand your concern, de Cambille. However, this coalition is a necessary step to prevent the fascist scum from taking power. Better a capitalist than a fascist, especially a capitalist who shares a desire to promote civil liberties and social equality.

-Amedee Dupointe
 

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Of course, a student of history might point out that Belgium's industry first flourished under interventionist policies and most recently expanded into modern factories only through the Socialist policy of State Capitalism.

A more far-sighted student of history, Monsieur Burke, might say that Belgium's first great industrial boom was under the laissez-faire policies of the Moderate Liberals in the 1840s, and Belgium's first great experiment in interventionism under the Marquis de Beauffort resulted in economic stagnation that lasted nearly a decade. And while it's true that government-funded industries constructed after the war did indeed help Belgium's economy, they will only truly create wealth and prosperity when they are privatized and allowed to behave in a market-conforming industry.

I respect you more than almost any other Deputy in the Chamber, Monsieur Burke, but we still won't agree about economics, I suppose.
 

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T
~ Pilonist Deputy[/I]

Emergency Martial Law: Nay
Cognatic Succession Amendment Incorporation: Abstain

[BSU]

((We have now infiltrated Belgian Social Union. Everything goes as planned... :p ))

Emergency Martial Law: Nay
Cognatic Succession Amendment Incorporation: Abstain

((BNF))


General Pilon is a true martyr of the national revolution. Apprehended without any reason by the Savarinists and Bolsheviks, held without any legal reason and denied his rights as a proud Belgian, imprisoned for the crime of thought by those who claim to support "freedom". Freedom from what? Freedom from morals? freedom from justice? General was punished for his creed, for his loyalty to the nation. General, you may feel like you were left alone in some prison cell, but you are not alone, and you will never be. Every true Belgian, every single man with his faith in good, every fascist is with you in his heart and mind. 'Your sacrifices for the good of us all will not be forgotten, General.

A few days later, leaflets demanding the release of Pilon started to appear in the major cities, describing his heroic deeds during the Great War, his patriotic fervour and his loyalty to Belgian nation. The leaflets also harshly criticized the forming coalition of Socialists and Liberals as illegitimate, Bolshevik, Anarchist and many other insulting epithets.
 

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A more far-sighted student of history, Monsieur Burke, might say that Belgium's first great industrial boom was under the laissez-faire policies of the Moderate Liberals in the 1840s, and Belgium's first great experiment in interventionism under the Marquis de Beauffort resulted in economic stagnation that lasted nearly a decade. And while it's true that government-funded industries constructed after the war did indeed help Belgium's economy, they will only truly create wealth and prosperity when they are privatized and allowed to behave in a market-conforming industry.

I respect you more than almost any other Deputy in the Chamber, Monsieur Burke, but we still won't agree about economics, I suppose.
An economic boom in the 1840s? I think that Savarin is willingly ignoring how in the same years the Liberals' Laissez-Faire policies single-handedly destroyed the traditional Textile industries of Flanders, thus ending one of our oldest and most respected traditions. Centuries of hard work destroyed in the name of profitability and greed!

The Economy should serve the National interests, not the greed of the Capitalists and neither the poisonous ideology of the Socialists. That's all.

- Baron Alexander Van Den Brucke
Former Captain of the Army
 

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((We have now infiltrated Belgian Social Union. Everything goes as planned... :p ))

((Whoops XD

That's what I get for copy-pastaing a BSUer, I s'pose))
 

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May I remind these foolish Pilonists that their great leader was in charge of an illegal militia? There is a reason he is under arrest, though I think the fool should be given a trial.

-Amedee Dupointe
May I remind this drugged Socialist that General Pilon was in charge of a volunteers' corps who fought against Belgium's enemies while asking nothing in return? The accusations of being a political militia are absurd and were a shameless attempt to smear our National Movement before the General Elections.

The constant attempts to suppress the National Front reveal all the hypocrisy of the Liberals and the Socialists, "Democracy" for them is just a way to indicate the dictatorship of their few, selected parties. They will tolerate no real opposition and thus are now attacking the BNF, the only party who is truly trying to reform Belgium for good!

- Baron Alexander Van Den Brucke
Former Captain of the Army
 

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We should give Pilon a trial to publicly demonstrate how ridiculous his views are


I understand your concern, de Cambille. However, this coalition is a necessary step to prevent the fascist scum from taking power. Better a capitalist than a fascist, especially a capitalist who shares a desire to promote civil liberties and social equality.

-Amedee Dupointe
De Cambille's private response letter-

I know, I know, Amedee. That's why I've been staying with the coalition. Better to take a compromise than a defeat. However, one must put on a good face for the masses. After all, in an ideal world, the Martial Law would become lax enough for the Volkskring to stage a coup. What glorious days those would be.
We'll just have to ram through more secularism and inclusion for the Frankish proletariat.

~Dorian Alain-Marie de Cambille
 

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De Cambille's private response letter-

I know, I know, Amedee. That's why I've been staying with the coalition. Better to take a compromise than a defeat. However, one must put on a good face for the masses. After all, in an ideal world, the Martial Law would become lax enough for the Volkskring to stage a coup. What glorious days those would be.
We'll just have to ram through more secularism and inclusion for the Frankish proletariat.

~Dorian Alain-Marie de Cambille

Amedee writs back

Dear de Cambille,

Maybe I am a fool, but I still believe in a republic and the power of democracy to give voice to the working class. I believe we can change the hearts and minds of enough people to enact all of our goals.
 

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Emergency Martial Law: Aye; the nation must be vigilant against the dual socialist and fascist threats.
Cognatic Succession Amendment Incorporation: Aye; long live the King and his successors.

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Emergency Martial Law: Nay; Martial Law will not be sufficient to dissuade the far left and the far right from their radical tendencies. Understanding has to be reached through dialogue

Cognatic Succession Amendment Incorporation: Nay; The monarchy has no place in a truly free Belgium.

P.K. Vos [NDP]
 

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Emergency Martial Law: Aye
Cognatic Succession Amendment Incorporation: Aye - People must recognised that this bill is not actually pro-monarchy, but seeks to clarify the wording of a previous amendment.

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While I find little in Pilon that I agree with, the man must be given a trial. It is unjust that he be kept without trial for such a duration.

~ Tillens