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Joint Elected Senate Amendment of 1898: Yes
Cognatic Succession Amendment: Yes
Referendum Amendment: Yes

[BSU]

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Joint Elected: Abstain
Cognatic Succession: Aye
Referendum Amendment: Aye

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Joint Elected Senate Amendment: Abstain - while I applaud this panpartisan effort, it is my belief that its stated objectives (of both electing the Senate while retaining its apolitical character) are mutually exclusive. Personally, I would sooner see the Senate abolished than have it reduced to a bicameral body, an imperfect duplicate of this Chamber, with all the associated legislative difficulties.
Cognatic Succession Amendment: Aye
Referendum Act: Aye

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Joint Elected Senate Amendment: Abstain
Cognatic Succession Amendment: Aye
Referendum Act: Nay

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Joint Elected Senate Amendment of 1898: Abstain

With no disrespect to My Honourable Friends Mssrs. De Graaf and Aerts, whom I admire for trying to solve another long-standing issue collaboratively, I feel a referendum on the issue would be more prudent. I also believe that provisions should be made to ensure that the Senate is non-partisan.

Cognatic Succession Amendment: Aye
Referendum Amendment: Aye

I do not by any means wish to see the monarchy come to an end, and in voting aye I do not betray this. Rather, I wish to see the end of an argument that has gone on too long. My previous qualms a to the handling of a referendum have been resolved, and therefore, as a perverse matter of principle, I cannot in good faith vote nay.

[LDP]

The Hon. J. B. H. Van der Wyngaert​
 

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Joint Elected Senate Amendment of 1898: Aye
Cognatic Succession Amendment: Aye
Referendum Amendment: Aye

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Joint Elected Senate Amendment of 1898: Aye
Cognatic Succession Amendment: Aye
Referendum Amendment: Aye

[NDP]

To address the concerns of several Deputies: If the JESA passes, I promise to dissolve the Parliament and hold new elections, such that we will have a fresh lower house to correspond to our fresh upper house. I would have done so sooner, but the pressing issues of the republican question, royal ascensions and the precarious international situation have made doing so difficult. Thank you for understanding.

- Pierre Savarin, P.M.
 

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((Tally.))

RU: [43]

Joint Elected Senate Amendment of 1898: 0/4/0 [0, 43, 0]
Cognatic Succession Amendment: 0/3/1 [0, 32, 11]
Referendum Amendment: 0/4/0 [0, 43, 0]

BSU: [55]

Joint Elected Senate Amendment of 1898: 7/0/0 [55, 0, 0]
Cognatic Succession Amendment: 7/0/0 [55, 0, 0]
Referendum Amendment: 7/0/0 [55, 0, 0]

NDP: [40]

Joint Elected Senate Amendment of 1898: 1/0/0 [40, 0, 0]
Cognatic Succession Amendment: 1/0/0 [40, 0, 0]
Referendum Amendment: 1/0/0 [40, 0, 0]

GLP: [32]

Joint Elected Senate Amendment of 1898: 0/2/3 [0, 12, 20]
Cognatic Succession Amendment: 3/2/0 [19, 12, 1]
Referendum Amendment: 3/2/0 [19, 12, 1]

LDP: [18]

Joint Elected Senate Amendment of 1898: 0/0/2 [0, 0, 18]
Cognatic Succession Amendment: 2/0/0 [18, 0, 0]
Referendum Amendment: 1/0/1 [9, 0, 9]

BCU: [6]

Joint Elected Senate Amendment of 1898: 0/0/1 [0, 0, 6]
Cognatic Succession Amendment: 0/0/1 [0, 0, 6]
Referendum Amendment: 0/0/1 [0, 0, 6]

SDP: [6]

Joint Elected Senate Amendment of 1898: 0/0/2 [0, 0, 6]
Cognatic Succession Amendment: 2/0/0 [6, 0, 0]
Referendum Amendment: 2/0/0 [6, 0, 0]

Totals:
Joint Elected Senate Amendment of 1898: 8/6/6 [95, 55, 50] (63.3% FAIL)
Cognatic Succession Amendment: 13/5/2 [138, 44, 18] (75.8% PASS)
Referendum Amendment: 12/6/2 [129, 55, 16] (70.1% PASS)
 

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Joint Elected Senate Amendment of 1898: Aye
Cognatic Succession Amendment: Nay
Referendum Amendment: Nay

[RU]
 

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I demand the immediate removal of “Sir” Pytor Aerts for his gross misconduct regarding the recent amendments; whilst he, in a rare moment of cognition and clarity, voted against the radical measure of the referendum, which is to be expected of all true conservatives, in his voting for the Elected Senate Amendment, he has done more to undermine the security of the monarchy, and indeed all of Belgian society, than any referendum could potentially do. His betrayal of the Regalist Union is monumentally foolish and treacherous, and I, nor would I expect any member of this venerable party, wish to be seen with this radical cloaked in conservatism! Should he be allowed to maintain his positions in our party by the powers that be, then those same men can expect to hear of my resignation from the Regalist Union; I will not associate with traitors such as Aerts.

~ Lt. General P.M. Pilon
 

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Referendum Amendment: Abstain--->Yes

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((The vote is now closed.

EDIT: Owing to our last minute votes, all three bills have passed.))
 

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1899 Early Elections​


In October, 1898, King Prosper-August officially abdicated. His cousin, Francis d'Assise, became King Francis of Belgium. The new King named his royal cousin the Duke of Luxembourg and promised a prominent role in policy-making to his defeated father, and with all sides apparently placated - or at the very least silenced, government continued in Belgium.

Immediately following the coronation of King Francis, Savarin took advantage of the Duke of Anjou's continued absence and an increasingly fractured right to push the Republican left's agenda. Hoping to harness on the new King's statement of support for an elected senate, the Savarin administration threw its support behind the Joint Elected Senate Amendment, which would replace the appointed senate with a partisan, elected body. Anger at the effective exclusion of the former heir presumptive, Princess Marie, from the line of succession also prompted the left to put forward the popular Cognatic Succession Amendment, which would make the laws of Belgian royal primogeniture indifferent to gender. With motions to put a binding referendum to the Belgian public repeatedly voted down by razor-thin margins in the Chamber of Deputies, the embattled General Thaddee also drafted a new non-binding referendum amendment. De Leeuw, the Socialist Leader, put forward a bill to abolish all noble titles below that of sovereign - but when the King threatened to block the amendment if it ever reached him, the motion was hastily tabled.

All three motions ultimately passed. The Cognatic Succession Amendment enjoyed broad support from those who thought that the daughters of August had their birthright unfairly taken from them, and radicals and socialists backed the egalitarian initiative on principle. It passed with nearly three-quarters of the chamber not abstaining in favor. The new Referendum Amendment (which Thaddee would insist on the end was an Act) only proposed a non-binding referendum on the issue of the monarchy, which even the Regalists had trouble opposing convincingly. It too passed. A far fiercer floor battle was fought over the Joint Elected Senate Amendment. An elected senate had long been a rallying issue for liberals of all stripes, but debate over passage and implementation stalled the initiative time and time again. To satisfy LDP demands, Pierre Savarin had promised to dissolve the government if the Amendment passed. Even so, the leftist whips estimated that only a scant 63.3% of the Deputies not abstaining would support the act, slightly short of the necessary two-thirds majority.

The ultimate passage of the act startled everyone, Pierre Savarin most of all. Victory came from an unexpected quarter. The acting leader of the Regalist Union, Pytor Aerts, and four of his closest allies voted in favor of the amendment in the hopes of cutting the Savarin administration short and retaking the Palace of the Nation in the early election. When asked to explain himself, Pytor Aerts claimed that Savarin's leftist government was doing vast damage to the government by degrees and that the RU was fighting the inevitable in opposing an elected senate. His comments sparked outrage in the Regalist ranks, where old incumbents and far-right Neo Beauffortists vowed to seize control of the party in retaliation.

Following the unexpected (but for Savarin, not unwelcome) passage of the Joint Elected Senate Amendment, the Prime Minister dissolved the Parliament and called early elections. A raft of politicians caught off guard scrambled back to their constituencies to campaign ahead of new polls, scheduled for January, 1899.

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Player Actions Needed:

Declare yourself as running for any of Belgium's major parties (the Moderate Liberals, the National Democrats, the Belgian Social Union, the Regalist Union), or as a candidate for Minister of Flanders, Minister of Wallonia, or Minister of Brussels.

The LDP and the SDP are also contesting this election. I think the BCU may be out of commission - inquire with Sirk.

Also vote on the Referendum, and on the [post=17151870]Conditions for Dissolution Bill[/post] and the [post=17119184]Incorporation Amendment[/post].

The [post=17151870]Retroactive Dissolution Bill[/post] is moot and will not be voted on.


Sample Declarations:

I'm running for Leader of the Regalist Union/Moderate Liberal/National Democrats/Belgian Social Union.

I'm running for Minister of Wallonia/Minister of Flanders/Minister of Brussels.

I'm agitating!

Sample Ballot:

Should Belgium become a republic? Yes/No/Abstain ((Note that this vote is non-binding))
[post=17151870]Conditions for Dissolution Bill[/post]: Yes/No/Abstain
[post=17119184]Incorporation Amendment[/post]: Yes/No/Abstain

[BSU/RU/NDP/GLP/LDP/BCU/SDP] ((Seriously, stop forgetting this.))

Note that the referendum results will be judged by absolute numbers of players for or against, while the other two votes will be calculated in according with party representation in the 1895-1898 Chamber of Deputies as of the last update.

This declaration period ends at 8 PM PST 4/1 (4 AM GMT 4/2 assuming we don't act on the results of my non-binding time referendum)
 

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A speech given by General Pilon in Brussels

Regalists! Conservatives! Beauffortists! How many of you have felt at a loss these past decades? How many of have been persecuted by the Red Legion and their mad leader, who was only but a heartbeat away from being Prime Minister? How many of you want Belgium to be strong again?

The Regalist Union under the leadership of Harfleur and de Lannoy has, at every possible interval, abandoned the ideals of conservatism, instead opting for a weak, impotent, even illusory defence of the right, all the while opting to work with socialists and republicans. Was it not under Harfleur that de Leeuw, that villain and self-professed radical, and known priest-killer, first truly rose to political prominence and reached even greater infamy? Was it not under Lannoy that Belgium’s great distress in Africa began to fester and grow, without any interest or notice by his tepid and half-hearted government?

Gentlemen, brothers, it is time for this flirtation with socialism to end! Now is the hour for True Conservatism to rise again! Now is the hour to defend the monarchy! Now is New Beauffortism’s time to ascend, and for Belgium to once again have strong, moral leadership!

No more shall radical and republicans dictate our policies, as they have done for so long! No more shall our own party members bolt and vote for the leftists! No more shall True Conservatives be denied their rights! Let us toss out these tired and old Harfleurians and Aertists, corrupt and malignant, and replace those craven whore-sons with strong moral leadership once again!

I ask you: will you allow Savarin and de Leeuw, alongside their drug-addled and avaricious allies, who themselves are so morally bankrupt that they cannot even find it themselves to establish a republic, to dictate the old and fainthearted Regalists of Aerts and Lannoy, into this thousand years of darkness? Or will you stand with me, and with van de Werve, and with Beauffort, and save Belgium from this moral malaise and social upheaval?

Only through the ideals of New Beauffortism can Belgium remain afloat in the wake of the red hydra! Only through New Beauffortism can Belgium experience a spiritual and moral rebirth, and reject the excesses and vanities of the democrats! Only through New Beauffortism can Belgium truly begin to live again!

I ask Leon van de Werve, the great champion of conservatism, and quite possibly the only man in Belgium with the wealth, the intellect, and simple moral compass, to lead this Kingdom out of this mire, these jaws of the red hydra, to take the helm of the Regalist Union, and save Belgium from these damnable radicals!
 
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Should Belgium become a republic? Nay
Conditions for Dissolution Bill: Aye
Incorporation Amendment: Aye

[MLP]

As well, I am running for the Ministry of Flanders and for leadership of the MLP

~ Lord Minister, Sir Andrei Popa Vanderhoof, KL, Deputy of Ghent, Minister of Labour and Minister of Flanders
 

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A speech given by General Pilon in Brussels

Regalists! Conservatives! Beauffortists! How many of you have felt at a loss these past decades? How many of have been persecuted by the Red Legion and their mad leader, who was only but a heartbeat away from being Prime Minister? How many of you want Belgium to be strong again?

The Regalist Union under the leadership of Harfleur and de Lannoy has, at every possible interval, abandoned the ideals of conservatism, instead opting for a weak, impotent, even illusory defence of the right, all the while opting to work with socialists and republicans. Was it not under Harfleur that de Leeuw, that villain and self-professed radical, and known priest-killer, first truly rose to political prominence and reached even greater infamy? Was it not under Lannoy that Belgium’s great distress in Africa began to fester and grow, without any interest or notice by his tepid and half-hearted government?

Gentlemen, brothers, it is time for this flirtation with socialism to end! Now is the hour for True Conservatism to rise again! Now is the hour to defend the monarchy! Now is New Beauffortism’s time to ascend, and for Belgium to once again have strong, moral leadership!

No more shall radical and republicans dictate our policies, as they have done for so long! No more shall our own party members bolt and vote for the leftists! No more shall True Conservatives be denied their rights! Let us toss out these tired and old Harfleurians and Aertists, corrupt and malignant, and replace those craven whore-sons with strong moral leadership once again!

I ask you: will you allow Savarin and de Leeuw, alongside their drug-addled and avaricious allies, who themselves are so morally bankrupt that they cannot even find it themselves to establish a republic, to dictate the old and fainthearted Regalists of Aerts and Lannoy, into this thousand years of darkness? Or will you stand with me, and with van der Werve, and with Beauffort, and save Belgium from this moral malaise and social upheaval?

Only through the ideals of New Beauffortism can Belgium remain afloat in the wake of the red hydra! Only through New Beauffortism can Belgium experience a spiritual and moral rebirth, and reject the excesses and vanities of the democrats! Only through New Beauffortism can Belgium truly begin to live again!

I ask Leon van der Werve, the great champion of conservatism, and quite possibly the only man in Belgium with the wealth, the intellect, and simple moral compass, to lead this Kingdom out of this mire, these jaws of the red hydra, to take the helm of the Regalist Union, and save Belgium from these damnable radicals!

Leon-Phillipe van der Werve, arrives after a temporary period of absence.

The most esteemed General ushers words that all Conservatives need to bear attention. But it is not just the Regalists, Conservatives, and Beauffortists whom our appeal must reach - Nay - our speech must pierce the ears of all men of tradition, Harfleurians and Moderates alike! My person calls out with a most disturbed scream, the very integrity of the Monarchy stands upon a thread of extinction and tips at the desire of radicals. In this precarious hour of danger, every liberal, conservative, and traditional must cast aside their boundless hate for another and hold their positions with a intense passion. Our Monarchy, withers away on a deathbed! Let me plea to the men of reason, the men of dignity, the men of moderate ideal for aid at this very hour. The esteemed gentleman of Schaerbeek, Valentin-Alexandre Klinkenberg - the unshaken Lion of Africa, Lucien van Buskirk - the worthy J. B. H. Van der Wyngaert - Supreme-General Xavier-Pierre Florian Thaddée GKLS, DSO, POM, FPS, Chief of the Defence Staff - to you, I cry out and call, preserve Leo Belgicus! Do permit the institution that transcends political boundaries to be torn down by unwarranted detestation!

And now, I address the Regalist Union, a broken establishment that yet endures the burden of defense. Dearest friends, I ask one simple thing. Do not be idle. Do not be passive. Now is the hour when our assistance is needed the most - a true test of your resolve and unmoving will to resist forces that seek to dismantle our proud demesne. We shall not bend to reckless ambition. No, we shall march forth with a divine fury and protect our customs, the customs of our citizens, from a movement that will shred apart the Belgian people from their mother crown. But now my short outburst is finished - action awaits, for you can preach a better sermon with your life than with your lips.

I declare my intention to Run for Leadership of the Regalist Union and Protect the interests of all citizens that reserve their confidence in the Belgian Crown.

- Léon-Philippe van de Werve, Baron of Schlide
 

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Should Belgium become a republic? No
Conditions for Dissolution Bill: Yes
Incorporation Amendment: Abstain

[MLP]

I am running for Minister of Wallonia

Henri Renard - Minister of Finance - Deputy for Liege
 
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