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Well spoken Amadee! Josef de Leeuw follows Amadee, he was seen waving Red Legion banners in the streets of Brussels.

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"Can we have this man arrested and tried for participating in illegal paramilitary groups, namely the Red Legion? Damned Socialists, they'll be the death of us."
 

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Colonial Supervision Bill, as revised: Nay
Savarin's Colonial Proposal: Aye

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"Can we have this man arrested and tried for participating in illegal paramilitary groups, namely the Red Legion? Damned Socialists, they'll be the death of us."

I believe such public association warrants a judicial arrest.
 

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Colonial Supervision bill, as revised: Nay
Savarin's Colonial Proposal: Aye

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Addressed to the Office of the Chief of His Majesty's General Staff:

Sir,

May I offer my, admittedly belated, gratitude for my recent reassignment. While my prior assignment within our mainland was an honorable and just position, the colonial theatre offers a much higher chance in which I may prove myself a loyal officer in service of Crown and Country, and as such, I am elated.

With the destruction of the savage army of Tippu Tip, I pray my ability was thoroughly shown, and an indicator of my commitment to our glorious kingdom - though I must of course allow General Thaddée his well earned recognition for his plans of which I utilized to a great degree.

- Lieutenant-General Lucien van Buskirk, General-Superior of the Colonial Forces, Commander of His Majesty's Benin Guard



Addressed to Colonel-General Thaddée:

Sir,

My thanks for your recent correspondence, your Telamon Plan proved instrumental in the defeat of Tippu Tip and his slaving followers. It is truly an honor to be so welcomed and embraced by a fellow officer, much more one with a fine reputation as a dignified man such as yourself good Thaddée.

May we continue to work closely together as partners under Crown and Country, and may Belgium prosper.

- Lieutenant-General Lucien van Buskirk, General-Superior of the Colonial Forces, Commander of His Majesty's Benin Guard
 

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Vanderhoof rubs his temples

"Can we have this man arrested and tried for participating in illegal paramilitary groups, namely the Red Legion? Damned Socialists, they'll be the death of us."

You will never arrest my Revolutionary Knickerbockers, however!
 

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As the Minsiter of Justice I order the arrests of Josef de Leeuw and Amedee Dupointe on the grounds of active participation in an illegal paramilitary group.

- Christian van de Velde, Count of Ypres
 

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As the Minsiter of Justice I order the arrests of Josef de Leeuw and Amedee Dupointe on the grounds of active participation in an illegal paramilitary group.

- Christian van de Velde, Count of Ypres

I am shocked by the sudden arrest of two prominent members of the BSU by the government. I never supported the Van de Velde - de Broqueville Act, but the law is the law. However, I do not know if the Red Legion continues to advocate the use of violence to fight for reform, as the last time I remember it advocating for violence was during the retaking of Belgium during the counter-coup against the illegitimate de Werve government in 1866. I have heard the reports of Mijnheer de Leeuw waving the flag of the Red Legion but unless the government has proof that the Red Legion in its current state is what would be considered a paramilitary organization then these arrests are illegal.

~ Christiaan Loewen, Deputy for Antwerp and Leader of the BSU
 

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As the Minsiter of Justice I order the arrests of Josef de Leeuw and Amedee Dupointe on the grounds of active participation in an illegal paramilitary group.

- Christian van de Velde, Count of Ypres
Ah I see. I get arrested while the Red Legion is just an unarmed, peaceful organization now? While they just demonstrate against the capitalists? Against the government? I must have missed the part when Freedom of Speech was disallowed.

Some other Socialists in his presence laugh loudly.
 

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I am shocked by the sudden arrest of two prominent members of the BSU by the government. I never supported the Van de Velde - de Broqueville Act, but the law is the law. However, I do not know if the Red Legion continues to advocate the use of violence to fight for reform, as the last time I remember it advocating for violence was during the retaking of Belgium during the counter-coup against the illegitimate de Werve government in 1866. I have heard the reports of Mijnheer de Leeuw waving the flag of the Red Legion but unless the government has proof that the Red Legion in its current state is what would be considered a paramilitary organization then these arrests are illegal.

~ Christiaan Loewen, Deputy for Antwerp and Leader of the BSU

Membership of a (formerly) paramilitary organization would be proper grounds for a police investigation, which will happen to these members of your party before they are put on a fair trial. I must stress though, that the government and judiciary should exercise extreme prejudice when dealing with this case, and that we should take care not to sentence anyone for crimes not committed.

- Sir Maximiliaan van Brabant, OPL, Minister of Commerce
 

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I wish to express my gratitude to His Majesty for the appointment to the Senate which I humbly accept. I shall use my remaining years to serve the Belgian people to the best of my abilities.

I also thank His Majesty for the appointment to the Royal Order of the Lion. I accept this honour as a recognition not of my work but of the tireless work of the members of my Ministry of Commerce who laboured over those 20 years to keep the wheels of industry turning.

Finally, I wish to thank the Prime Minister for the nominations to the above honours. His persistence is greatly appreciated and I wish him all the best during these difficult times.

Sir Edmund Burke (KL)

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Colonial Supervision bill, as revised: Nay
Savarin's Colonial Proposal: Aye

Firstly, I must join others in extending congratulations to our armed forces. As I have previously remarked, our Army and Navy are the shining light in the abysmal administration of M. de Lannoy, due in no small fact that they were the products of more capable governments which predated the current cabinet. The BSU greatly appreciates the service of our soldiers and sailors who should not be misled by the reactionary propaganda which only seeks to manipulate their affections for the reactionaries own malevolent purposes. I agree that Generals Thadee and van Buskirk ought to be recognised for their outstanding service. My son, Etienne, can speak of nothing but the brilliance of the execution of Plan Telamon which must surely stand out in the annals of military history. However, I would strongly counsel against adopting any titles such as "Victor of Sokot" given the likely public association with similar titles bandied about by the conservative madman van der Goltz.

More importantly, it is a sad indictment of the Cabinet of M. de Lannoy that in less than 5 years he has managed to undo the good work of the previous 25 years. It is the sickest of jokes to appoint my father, who guided Belgium through the Reconstruction, resulting in full employment, at the very time when we are forced to consider the necessity of unemployment benefits following the RU mismanagement of our workforce and factories.

Unfortunately the current administration has adopted the all too familiar tune of blaming others for the problems they have created. They curse the symptoms of social unrest when they are the disease which has inflamed the body politic of Belgium. Through their incompetence and self serving policies, through their blithe disregard for the fellow man, through their failure to consider the Socialist cure of State Capitalism, they have wrought havoc on the once healthy industrial powerhouses of Flanders and Wallonia. I weep when I consider the depths to which we have come. And instead of taking the initiative, we are reduced to knee jerk reactions of token reforms and social repression. As one who fought with my father during the Exile in the 1860's, I fear that the leopard has still not changed its spots.

Frederic Burke
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The news of the Potential arrest of de Leeuw and Amadee spread like wildfire trough Belgium, thanks to the telephone. Soon Red Legion banners where waving in the streets of all major cities as a sign of support to the politicians. The old banners from during the time of Beauffort where replaced by new ones.

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Ah I see. I get arrested while the Red Legion is just an unarmed, peaceful organization now? While they just demonstrate against the capitalists? Against the government? I must have missed the part when Freedom of Speech was disallowed.

Some other Socialists in his presence laugh loudly.

The Red Legion is a banned paramilitary group and as such being a member of said group is against the Van de Velde - de Broqueville Act. I will leave it up to the courts to decide on what punishments will be if there are any punishments at all.

- Christian van de Velde, Count of Ypres, Ministery of Justice
 

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The Red Legion is a banned paramilitary group and as such being a member of said group is against the Van de Velde - de Broqueville Act. I will leave it up to the courts to decide on what punishments will be if there are any punishments at all.

- Christian van de Velde, Count of Ypres, Ministery of Justice
The Red Legion can no longer be considered as a paramilitary group, since they laid down arms 20 years ago. So punishment is impossible for being member of it.

- Josef de Leeuw
 

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I have filed Wrist of Quo Warranto and Prohibition in the Constitutional Court to rule on the legality of the arrest warrants issued, which will include inter alia a determination whether the current organisation called the Red Legion is one and the same as the historical entity previously called the Red Legion over a generation ago, and secondly whether the current organisation called the Red Legion falls within the definition of a "paramilitary group" under the Act as a question of fact given the absence of any paramilitary activity by that organisation in the present peaceful demonstrations.

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((It seems to me the TH3 needs to rule on the legality of the arrest warrants otherwise we will descend into absurdity, if we are not there already.))
 

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The Red Legion is a banned paramilitary group and as such being a member of said group is against the Van de Velde - de Broqueville Act. I will leave it up to the courts to decide on what punishments will be if there are any punishments at all.

- Christian van de Velde, Count of Ypres, Ministery of Justice

The Van de Velde - de Broqueville Act clearly defines a paramilitary organization as "any armed group not controlled by state with a command system". As far as I understand it the Red Legion is no longer armed and its command system has not existed for over 25 years. Unless you can prove otherwise, then your orders to arrest Mijnheers de Leeuw and Dupointe are unfounded and should be immediately rescinded.

~ Christiaan Loewen, Deputy for Antwerp and Leader of the BSU
 

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I have filed Wrist of Quo Warranto and Prohibition in the Constitutional Court to rule on the legality of the arrest warrants issued, which will include inter alia a determination whether the current organisation called the Red Legion is one and the same as the historical entity previously called the Red Legion over a generation ago, and secondly whether the current organisation called the Red Legion falls within the definition of a "paramilitary group" under the Act as a question of fact given the absence of any paramilitary activity by that organisation in the present peaceful demonstrations.

Frederic Burke
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((It seems to me the TH3 needs to rule on the legality of the arrest warrants otherwise we will descend into absurdity, if we are not there already.))
I assure you that it isn't a paramilitary organization, since it doesn't have a command structure anymore.

- Josef de Leew
 

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The Van de Velde - de Broqueville Act clearly defines a paramilitary organization as "any armed group not controlled by state with a command system". As far as I understand it the Red Legion is no longer armed and its command system has not existed for over 25 years. Unless you can prove otherwise, then your orders to arrest Mijnheers de Leeuw and Dupointe are unfounded and should be immediately rescinded.

~ Christiaan Loewen, Deputy for Antwerp and Leader of the BSU

I have not seen anything regarding the laying down arms of the Red Legion.

- Christian van de Velde, Count of Ypres, Minister of Justice
 

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I have not seen anything regarding the laying down arms of the Red Legion.

- Christian van de Velde, Count of Ypres, Minister of Justice

Then you must be ignorant, Minister van de Velde. Let me show you a statement released by Alexander Dingemans, former leader of the Red Legion, 25 years ago following the restoration of the legitimate government to power.

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I order the Red Legion to lay down arms. And I want all provincial commanders to do the same. I DEMAND that new, free elections shall be held this year, too make sure the government is what the people want after all this opression. This government should just organize the next election, and fast. The next should rebuild Belgium, and execute the captured leaders of the coup.

- Alexander Dingemans

Perhaps now you will see the mistake you have made.

~ Christiaan Loewen, Deputy for Antwerp and Leader of the BSU
 

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I have not seen anything regarding the laying down arms of the Red Legion.

- Christian van de Velde, Count of Ypres, Minister of Justice

With the greatest respect, the onus is upon the party seeking to take out the warrant to establish a prima facie case that they have taken up arms. You also bear the onus of proof to show a prima facie case that any taking up of arms is on an organised basis, including evidence of the nature of the organisation. At present we have peaceful demonstrations by obviously unarmed men and women who are expressing their dissatisfaction with the Cabinet's running of our country. Unless you can put more evidence before the Constitutional Court, I fail to see how you can establish that the issuing of arrest warrants is a lawful exercise of your powers as Minister for Justice.

Frederic Burke
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