Edge of Darkness [new version]

[Arrowfiend]

I'm inclined to agree about the part about the Soviet Union. They are way too strong before Barbarossa. OTL Soviets only had around 200 divisions at the start of the invasion, while in my two attempts as Germany, they had 500+ each time (and that was on the so-called "easy" Barbarossa). Maybe I'm just not the greatest player, but such an obstacle seems impossible to overcome. Even if you surround and overrun 100 or so divisions within the first couple months (which I did), there are 100 more to replace them.

As to the the other parts, I never really had trouble with the Allies. I was able to take France within the goal time, and the UK in about 2 months after starting Sealion in September of '40.

 

[Misantropia]

aaaaand UK just got 1500 mp all of a sudden. probably the loss of 500.000 men in 3 moths really pushes people to the recruitment box

 

[Eginhard 38]

I don't know how mobilization works in EoD but since it was based on WiF2, I guess the system is similar to the vanilla's. If yes, then any country will have events (or decisions for the human player) corresponding to a further step in their mobilization when running out of manpower.

 

[Mulder123]

@JJMerrill
I hope that I haven't come off as too much of a critic, I'm trying to be as constructive as possible. This mod is amazing

 

[Misantropia]

@JJMerrill
I hope that I haven't come off as too much of a critic, I'm trying to be as constructive as possible. This mod is amazing

+1

 

[Ruostenyrkki]

I too have noticed that the Soviets seem to be ridiculously powerful before barbarossa even begins. However, there seems to be a problem with the AI only building a huge air force and hundreds upon hundreds of infantry and motorized divisions in contrast to having almost no armor divisions. What's up with that?

Germany was supposed to almost completely incapacitate the Soviet air force before the attack but in my game, I made almost no use of my large force of bombers and stukas as the enemy had around 50 MODERN interceptor wings (no I-16's for you) and just as many bomber wings. Had to choose the easy barbarossa option because of this as I just felt really bitter at the AI cheating as much as it did.
However, because of the enemy having almost no armor divisions, I was able to easily encircle and destroy most of their armies by october 1941 despite of their air force harassing me constantly.

Could the AI be tweaked to cheat just a bit less, make it concentrate more on building a large force of tanks like the soviets did in real life and to not build as many modern bomber and fighter wings (upon which the 'luftwaffe strikes soviet air bases' -event had almost no effect on). I know the USSR had a large air force at the start of the war but their planes were vastly out dated in real life and they only started pumping IL-2's out of their factories from -42 onwards.

The American AI also seems to be very, very passive. In my game the war in Europe ended with an American-German cold war in 1944. It's 1947 now and they still haven't been able to beat Japan who is also having massive trouble in China. They're also suffering from the same weird bug as the Soviets where they build almost no tank divisions. According to my intelligence, the Americans have around 200 Infantry divisions but no tank divisions at all!

Other than that, I am very much enjoying the mod and all of its great events. I will certainly keep on playing this for months and years from now

 

[Cuban]

Is there a download link?

 

[Leobama Bama]

Is there a download link?

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[Altarios16]

Verry big problem with china , in 1938 they have division with 80 % organisation its impossible with japan to win against them

 

[Misantropia]

I checked what other axis powers are building/researching in 1941. found that Italy keeps it's CAG tech up to date but not the CV, thay don't even have the first one

Also JAP is doing a shit job at managing the occupied territories in China, no garrison at all, resulting in roaming rebels

 

[Arrowfiend]

Are there any events or decisions regarding RK Scandinavia after it has been created? Can you eventually annex and get cores on it?

 

[JJMerrill]

There are no events for integration of the RKs other than the ones created in Russia, for now.

 

[Arrowfiend]

There are no events for integration of the RKs other than the ones created in Russia, for now.

Gotcha. I take it the other RKs will come next? What will be the extent of land you will allow to integrate (Scandinavia, Lowlands, Burgundy, etc)?

 

[Ruostenyrkki]

It's already way into the 50's and USA still hasn't beaten Japan. Well I declared war on them and found out the reason. USA hasn't upgraded a single one of it's divisions, or air flotillas. Not even the ones it started with.
They have over 400 divisions and hundreds of bomber and fighter squadrons but they are of no use because they're all dramatically out dated. I think America also lost all of its tech teams around 1952 for whatever reason (my allies, Union of Britain and the French state have no tech teams either, which is really weird). These are some interesting bugs

 

[JJMerrill]

@Ruostenyrkki When did you download the version of EoD that you're playing? I'm asking because the tech team issue should be resolved in the current link on the first page of the thread, and is almost certainly related to why the USA doesn't have any upgraded divisions. Thank you.

 

[Misantropia]

Just dropped by to say I had the most enjoyable Barbarossa experience to date! And I've played a couple. I pushed from May to October, encircling Moskow and Leningrad and occupying Stalingrad and pushing towards Baku.

The USSR AI was awesome, passive at first and slowly starting to push back. During winter hell began, profiting from my reliance on allied troops in the south they attaked and nearly created a new Stalingrad with 9 divs surrounded in the area and continued to push through the south area to Rostov. Eventually I saved the encircled army but I was forced to retreat from the Caucasus due to heavy pressure from North and south, similar to what happened in history.

During that time USSR pushed to relieve the encircled Stalin which they almost did by pushing against the allied Walloon troops, and I was forced to do a costly assault on the besieged Moskow, and kill Stalin.

After that happened USSR collapsed, they got huge dissent so the efficiency of the troops plummeted as well as the IC, and I as able to relief my pummeled allies by unleashing the Panzers (being relieved from being the firemen of the eastern front) against USSR which lost ~ 3 million men in 2 months with only the Caucasus army as a functional force which efficiently resist my new push to Baku


Note though that I used the Easy setting for Barbarossa as well as manually deleting ~150 (30%) divs and ~80% of the USSR airforce before the campaign began. USSR is too buffed in the pre-war production.

Also Kerensky replaced Stalin

 

[Soul of Darknes]

Same problems here, i couldn't use my airforce because the soviets air force was to big and powerful, their army was not a big proble but they didn't had thanks, in 41 they had 2 division of tanks and the baltics still existed.

Japan and USA is a mess, in my game after i finished the incorporations of russian territories i invaded the rest of soviet union and then China because Japan couldn't conquer them and is year 1950, in 1946 i saw their production and they produce only Destroyers, no planes, no carriers, no troops and keeps invading unguarded chinese land and then gets destroyed.

USA have 500 divisions mostly marines and infantry, no tanks, no motorized or mechanized, is 1950 and they didn't nuked Japan once, i didn't checked to see if they discovered them, they just send transports to invade england or ireland and they got destroyed because they are unguarded.

Except these the mod was great and i really enjoyed the new events, there will be events about the partition of africa?

 

[Arrowfiend]

Yeah, if anything needs to be nerfed it's definitely the pre-war production of aircraft. While the unrealistic amount of infantry divisions is extremely difficult, it is semi-balanced out by the fact that the Soviets don't produce any armored divisions (although I still had to delete about 150ish divisions like @Soul of Darknes to even things out). Aircraft on the other hand is insane, with the Soviets not only having more aircraft, but modern aircraft as well. I deleted about half of their air force and even then it felt way too strong.

As for postwar events, I agree that some stuff should be done in regards to Africa. I just went with occupying all of French and Belgian Africa and letting my allies take the rest since there wasn't any flavor in regards to that area.

Also, I ran into some issues (bugs I assume) with Spain, Romania, and Turkey randomly switching governments. Romania stopped switching around after I puppeted them via event, but Turkey (as the Turkish State) kept going Stalinist, even though they were my puppet. I had to use console commands to coup them back to Fascist. Nationalist Spain also randomly would just turn back into Republican Spain so I would have to coup them also (although in this case Prince Xavier would take power instead of Franco). No idea what was causing these issues since there were no announcements that they had changed and I would only notice they had changed weeks after they had done so and the event log had been cleared.

Finally, I also saw an issue with the Japanese/China-Nanjing (Japan conquered China in 1940) AI where they moved their entire armies to the Indochinese-Indian border and got bogged down in fighting there for the next 4 years with the British Raj, letting the US navally invade China and occupy it all. I turned nofog on and even with the entire Chinese coast occupied, the Chinese and Japanese troops refused to budge and take back China, even though they had great numerical superiority (100 Chinese and 70 Japanese divisions vs less than 40 American divisions).

Oh, and yeah, Kerensky became Head of Government after Stalin's death while Kalinin became Head of State. When I reinvaded the USSR five years later after the Treaty of Moscow, leadership finally went to Beria.

 

[Ruostenyrkki]

@Ruostenyrkki When did you download the version of EoD that you're playing? I'm asking because the tech team issue should be resolved in the current link on the first page of the thread, and is almost certainly related to why the USA doesn't have any upgraded divisions. Thank you.

It's definitely the new version. Downloaded it a day after it was released, so a week ago or so(?) Can't remember anymore

 

[Misantropia]

the campaign is awesome. I finaly occupied england and beaten russia, question is, what's up with the french division?

I have convinced France to join my side since 1940, they contributed with 12 divs to barbarossa, and got the francophone part of Switzerland, why would I want to create a new TAG? FRA is already a puppet.