Easter vs Latin trait

[Coemgen]

Could someone elucidate the Latin vs. Eastern mechanism? In know what the trait is, but how is it decided which trait a bishop gets? I currently am polish, and seems like my bishops get it kinda randomly. I know that it may be because I'm on the border, since in the west it's 100% latin and east it's eastern.

Also, during the schism, is it that provinces with a bishop with latin become catholic and a bishop with eastern becomes orthodox? Can the liege influence this? For example, a random county in Scotland was orthodox after the schism. What could have happened there?

 

[karmaepsilon]

I think it's based on a few things, biggest one being the trait your liege's respective patriarch has. Not 100% sure on the others

 

[pottypie]

Not sure as to what decides the rites a bishop follows, but I do know that when the Schism occurs, all feudal and republic vassals will follow their liege's wishes as to which side of the coin they land on. However, bishops follow their rites, so if you have a greek rites bishop in Spain, he'll go orthodox even though everyone around him isn't. If this happens to a count or higher tier bishop, they'll convert the province(s) they own to their religion too, which is why you can get weird blobs of orthodox in catholic areas, or vice verca.

 

[downer666]

Spoiler

### GREEK/LATIN RITES

# Choosing Latin/Greek Rites for Chalcedonian priests
character_event = {
id = Plus.2275
desc = EVTDESC_Plus_2275
picture = GFX_evt_bishop
border = GFX_event_normal_frame_religion

is_triggered_only = yes

only_rulers = yes
religion = chalcedonian
capable_only = yes
prisoner = no

trigger = {
is_theocracy = yes
NOR = {
trait = greek_rites
trait = latin_rites
}
}

immediate = {
set_character_flag = chalcedonian_bishop
}

option = {
name = EVTOPTA_Plus_2275 # Latin Rites
trigger = {
NOT = { religion_head = { trait = greek_rites } }
OR = {
is_italian_trigger = yes
culture = longobard
}
}
add_trait = latin_rites
}
option = {
name = EVTOPTB_Plus_2275 # Greek Rites
trigger = {
NOT = { religion_head = { trait = greek_rites } }
culture = greek
}
add_trait = greek_rites
}
option = {
name = EVTOPTA_Plus_2275 # Latin Rites
trigger = {
OR = {
religion_head = { trait = latin_rites }
NOR = {
is_italian_trigger = yes
culture = longobard
culture = greek
}
}
}
ai_chance = {
factor = 50
modifier = {
factor = 0
OR = {
primary_title = { title = d_pentarch_constantinople }
liege = { has_landed_title = e_byzantium }
any_liege = { trait = greek_rites }
}
NOR = {
primary_title = { title = k_papal_chalcedon }
primary_title = { title = d_pentarch_rome }
any_liege = { has_landed_title = e_karling }
any_liege = { has_landed_title = e_hre }
any_liege = { has_landed_title = e_latin_empire }
any_liege = { has_landed_title = e_roman_empire }
any_liege = { trait = latin_rites }
}
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.5
OR = {
culture_group = byzantine
culture_group = arabic
culture_group = altaic
culture_group = east_slavic
AND = {
culture_group = south_slavic
NOT = { culture = croatian }
}
culture_group = iranian
}
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.1
rightful_religious_head = ROOT
primary_title = { any_previous_holder = { trait = greek_rites } }
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.25
NOT = { rightful_religious_head = ROOT }
primary_title = { any_previous_holder = { trait = greek_rites } }
}
modifier = {
factor = 2
rightful_religious_head_scope = {
NOT = { character = ROOT }
trait = latin_rites
}
}
modifier = {
factor = 1.5
location = { region = world_europe_west }
}
}
add_trait = latin_rites
}
option = {
name = EVTOPTB_Plus_2275 # Greek Rites
trigger = {
OR = {
religion_head = { trait = greek_rites }
NOR = {
culture = italian
culture = longobard
culture = greek
}
}
}
ai_chance = {
factor = 50
modifier = {
factor = 0
OR = {
primary_title = { title = k_papal_chalcedon }
primary_title = { title = d_pentarch_rome }
any_liege = { trait = latin_rites }
any_liege = { has_landed_title = e_karling }
any_liege = { has_landed_title = e_hre }
any_liege = { has_landed_title = e_latin_empire }
any_liege = { has_landed_title = e_roman_empire }
}
NOR = {
primary_title = { title = d_pentarch_constantinople }
any_liege = { has_landed_title = e_byzantium }
any_liege = { trait = greek_rites }
}
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.5
OR = {
culture_group = latin
culture_group = iberian
culture_group = magyar
culture_group = west_slavic
culture_group = north_germanic
culture_group = central_germanic
culture_group = west_germanic
culture_group = celtic
culture = croatian
}
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.1
rightful_religious_head = ROOT
primary_title = { any_previous_holder = { trait = latin_rites } }
}
modifier = {
factor = 0.25
NOT = { rightful_religious_head = ROOT }
primary_title = { any_previous_holder = { trait = latin_rites } }
}
modifier = {
factor = 2
rightful_religious_head_scope = {
NOT = { character = ROOT }
trait = greek_rites
}
}
modifier = {
factor = 2
trait = varangian
}
modifier = {
factor = 1.5
location = { region = world_europe_south_east }
}
}
add_trait = greek_rites
}
}

Basically, an event triggers for all theocratic rulers that have neither of the rite traits, which results in them picking one of the traits based on, among other things; their culture group, their liege's rite trait, their religious head's rite trait.