East vs West Developer diary 1 - Cold War At Your Command

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I like how the doomsday clock is only at 11:49 when there is an atomic bomb exploding in West Berlin.
Noticed it too
Also the russian forces in East Berlin are totally fine
 

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I am too pumped for this! Can't wait until next month!!!
 

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The map. That will be our next DD. I will consider each suggestion on the map. I can rework South Korea, actually Koreas are still something that are in the queue for map improvement.
 

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I know, I just found it funny.
 

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Looking great, Devs! Glad to see Dev Diaries have begun.

Got to love that military counters, they are clear, intuitive and eye appealing :)

I prefer more traditional symbols, these remind of stratego or something. That, however, is a minor quibble :)
 

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Most of the stuff I saw showed up in preview material already published. But the confirmation of the Doomsday clock (which I saw before but didn't realize its significance) is a nice touch.

Also, did I see the Soviets nuke West Berlin? That's a helluva way to start WWIII, with nuclear strike within a few feet of friendly territory!
 

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So in terms of difficulty to initially understand, as hard as vanilla hoi3? I just cant get my head round it :(
 

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The provinces look quite big. Or is it only the regions?
Look at the third image with the chopper - notice where we are looking.. and start counting :)
 

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Damn right, quit the bitching mofos! This is a mighty fine looking production. If it comes together balanced perhaps towards that holy grail as some have mentioned.

That said, kunadam your Avatar's all wrong. The bear should be in the east and Eagle in the west. Sort it out mann. Other than that thank you for great first dev diary.
 

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Damn right, quit the bitching mofos! This is a mighty fine looking production. If it comes together balanced perhaps towards that holy grail as some have mentioned.

That said, kunadam your Avatar's all wrong. The bear should be in the east and Eagle in the west. Sort it out mann. Other than that thank you for great first dev diary.
Except then the eagle would be under the 'E' in 'EvW' and the bear would be under the 'W.'
 

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Except then the eagle would be under the 'E' in 'EvW' and the bear would be under the 'W.'

That don't matter none. The Eagle's gotta be in the west and the Bear in the east. That's how it was, and how it should be.
 

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Maybe we are aiming at a commie USA and a democratic Russia? :)
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Maybe we are aiming at a commie USA and a democratic Russia? :)
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Crazy 70's LSD trip, I like it mann. Just needs positive vibes and more colours then. But after the trip didn't the Bear as icon for Russia predate communism?
 

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Maybe we are aiming at a commie USA and a democratic Russia? :)
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Maybe even have a useless mexican invasion dlc for £5.. if you know what i'm referring to =)
 

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didn't the Bear as icon for Russia predate communism?

yes. wiki says it dates back to the 17th century. Makes sense because it is the time when Russia emerged as a formidable power. Until that time, north/South axis was standard spatial perception axis in international relations. The rise of Russia, among other things, led to a slow transformation (1650-1750) into West/East axis as the dominant geographical perception of Europe. Russia was called the northern power (not eastern) at least until the end of the great Northern war.

It seems that the use of bear is slightly stereotypical and derogatory since it is not much of a symbol of Russia in Russia (two headed eagle is) but more of a British cartoon. It is like using Uncle Sam for USA instead of an eagle.

Another thing is that the country we speak of is not Russia (the Russian bear) but USSR. One of the few countries in history which had a name that did not refer to any ethnic or territorial entity and many of its leading politicians, scientists etc. were not Russians. Remember, there is a BIG difference between русские and россияне or between русская (ruskaja) Федерация and Российская (rusijskaja) Федерация. The Czech president is quite confident in Russian so he once made a speech in Russian on a visit to Russia without a translator. It was a minor diplomatic incident because he said ruskaja instead of rusijskaja (which is both translated Russian in English) - it could imply that he overlooks other nationalities than Russians when speaking about Russia.
 
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